13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Winston Hughes

[nebjiamn]

?vote: sk

[katze]

it has its uses

oh i was expecting you to go feral on that one

what about chess sticks? i really like string chess so i can pull them apart and tickle myself with the thin strings

[Visor]

Vote: Katze


fuck it

go rams

[EnderWiggin]

alright maybe achro is a villager lol

Achro has been obvious villager that I only doubted because of pocket fear.

[SilverKeith]

explain to me in detail how the visor vig claim makes more sense as a wolf than as a villager here

Why wouldn't you claim a pr as a wolf to have one more day? If he's the wolf poisoner it makes all the sense in the world, doesn't it? Even if he really thought ender had a red, you still claim to check pppls reaction, you lose nothing if you're a wolf.

I think the only good point about the visor villager claim is that he claims he holstered. And even then this is wifom.

But in ppl's mind he shuold looks WORSE from holstering so I'm not sure if wolf!visor 200iqs into claiming he holstered so ppl will think he wouldn't have done it as a wolf even if he knows it'd look terrible.

[katze]

Vote: Katze


fuck it

go rams

i think my eod is very towny

[Winston Hughes]

oh i was expecting you to go feral on that one

what about chess sticks? i really like string chess so i can pull them apart and tickle myself with the thin strings

you pervert

[Winston Hughes]

i think my eod is very towny

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

[katze]

anyway SK i should prob reply to that but uh

you are right that you are someone i wanted to play with a fair bit, i thought your posting was not great and that a lot of people were villagery, i opened up the day thinking that it was going to be another kinda decided at sod yeet

evidently i was wrong

but i don't think me being lazy makes me a wolf, and i think since then i've pretty evidently tried to solve more than just commenting at shrugyeeting at sod?

[katze]

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

im glad we can bond over the truly important things in this mafia game

[insomnia]

alright maybe achro is a villager lol

you were debating that??

[Visor]

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

oi you colonial dog

i dunno if i really believe you believe im a wolf - i think you would be filled with glee at catching me if you thought i was one

[SilverKeith]

how should I read you

you had what i call a bad eod d1

you were a heavy suspect to start day and have really... not done much other than make a few wall posts and be pretty cautious as to how you're framing the game fypov. idk, it feels like you only show up when your name gets tossed around in the pot a bit and when it starts to cool down you dip again

and there's been a palpable resistance to your wagon all day. granted some of that was because of some mechanical stuff at play today but even without that here at eod ppl are tossing out myself and dya. one villager and someone i think is very likeyl villager

it feels like people have been willing to re-eval on everyone but you and maybe that's a dumb reason but with everything else it adds up in my world view

your call on my bad eod1 is subjective. I determined cape was townie and voted somewhere else so unless you KNOW insom is town I might've had a fully correct eod1.

Everything else you said doesn't make me a wolf that's just my playstyle it's the way I do shit.

If there's resistance to my wagon i'ts bc maybe other ppl who have seen me play know this and decide I could be a villager.

You've made no reevaluation on me so why tf would you blame other ppl for not doing so

[katze]

vote: nebjiamn

sorry for the rand brother, sorry to the town for skill issuing this one earlier lol

[insomnia]

vote: visorslash

gn

[SilverKeith]

anyway SK i should prob reply to that but uh

you are right that you are someone i wanted to play with a fair bit, i thought your posting was not great and that a lot of people were villagery, i opened up the day thinking that it was going to be another kinda decided at sod yeet

evidently i was wrong

but i don't think me being lazy makes me a wolf, and i think since then i've pretty evidently tried to solve more than just commenting at shrugyeeting at sod?

I agree that it doesn't make you a wolf but I do think it's wolf indicative.

I should also obviously offer that I respect your wolfgame (specifically some aspects of it), which make it hard for me to clear you so I do not currentyl see myself putting you out of my poe on the foreseeable future, tho I'm willing to discuss about it and also do not want to lunch you today.

[Winston Hughes]

oi you colonial dog

i dunno if i really believe you believe im a wolf - i think you would be filled with glee at catching me if you thought i was one

true, true

my awareness of that has been the only thing staying my hand

but, really, has ras given us a game with so many kill powers? that's where i'm struggling to give you any benefit of the doubt here

[Cuthillius]

Why wouldn't you claim a pr as a wolf to have one more day? If he's the wolf poisoner it makes all the sense in the world, doesn't it? Even if he really thought ender had a red, you still claim to check pppls reaction, you lose nothing if you're a wolf.

I think the only good point about the visor villager claim is that he claims he holstered. And even then this is wifom.

But in ppl's mind he shuold looks WORSE from holstering so I'm not sure if wolf!visor 200iqs into claiming he holstered so ppl will think he wouldn't have done it as a wolf even if he knows it'd look terrible.

again there are a lot of claims that would give him a much higher chance of making it another day and aren't nearly as suspicious as vig, since unless ender full rescinded there the vig claim was always completely unbelievable

and i don't think it makes sense that he'd a) make a pr claim and b) assume ender didn't have any results, because if he was a wolf the only way he could assume b was if he didn't do anything last night, in which case he'd have no need to claim pr because he'd know it was fps?

[katze]

visor is probably one too yeah but he did have a few good points and this feels more correct anyway

and id rather mislunch benneh over visor even if both are very very juicy

[Visor]

vote: visorslash

gn

[Winston Hughes]

vote: nebjiamn

sorry for the rand brother, sorry to the town for skill issuing this one earlier lol

why benneh?

and what is skill issuing?

[nebjiamn]

you were debating that??

if the dude wants to go on rants about how terrible everyone itg is to play with to win as mafia then so be it

do you still think visor is a wolf (unrelated but also not a loaded question)

[Visor]

true, true

my awareness of that has been the only thing staying my hand

but, really, has ras given us a game with so many kill powers? that's where i'm struggling to give you any benefit of the doubt here

why not?

[Achro]

By the way.

If I am being rude in some way in my post to post content it is because I don't understand that I am being that way. Part of the problem with my autism with new people is I don't understand what they have problems with and most things in my head sound the same, statements of fact that are true and I can say. I have not thought "people here suck" but moreso "people here are not solving in a way that I think means town is going to win" and more specifically "They aren't asking me questions and just assuming, oh my god I only have 50 posts and they keep misunderstanding and not asking me what I really meant this is terrible."

So I am like, REALLY sorry if anyone thought I was trying to make some statement... I just SEE things, ok? Like cape yesterday. I felt terrible about the day all day. I try over and over and over to say something, and then Visor just... gaslights the hell out of me, which if he is a wolf is his job and chill and totally in bounds but then everyone is like 'actually he did a vig thing idk prob town' and if visor is town then... he just didnt read my posts, mocked me, said I didnt do anything when I spent HOURS day 1 saying the cape staleness felt terrible. Hours. And then apparent town visor doesnt even READ my posts?

... And I'm the problem?

You guys... probably have no idea how you made me feel tbh. It's easy to assume I am this confident guy, and that I have infinite swagger, but... god damnit I admitted I was jittery with 50 posts and I just wanted to play with one of my favorite people and didnt want to let you down and... it was immediately turned into a suspicion because I admitted I was nervous with only 50 posts. I am not angry, I am just... sad.

Sorry. This game has upset me a lot because I struggle with interpersonal things and I dont know a lot of you very well. And the ones I do were attacking me a lot day 1 for reasons that confused me, and weren't even clarified when I asked.

I'll get over it, I am really sorry none of you should have to deal with this, it is just a bad situation. It's a team game, maybe I am like 100% wrong you know? I just.. its not about right or wrong, I just felt really personally attacked a lot this game because I am trying to be a more open person and I get called wolfy for expressing vulnerability in my solving skill... that hurts. And it didnt get any better from there.

[nebjiamn]

why benneh?

and what is skill issuing?

they're just mad my cat gif reactions are better than their own

[SilverKeith]

again there are a lot of claims that would give him a much higher chance of making it another day and aren't nearly as suspicious as vig, since unless ender full rescinded there the vig claim was always completely unbelievable

and i don't think it makes sense that he'd a) make a pr claim and b) assume ender didn't have any results, because if he was a wolf the only way he could assume b was if he didn't do anything last night, in which case he'd have no need to claim pr because he'd know it was fps?

then it's wifom, isn't it?

"Why would he claim x if z was a better claim? It must be because he's town and telling the truth."

otherwise I'm not exactly getting what you're saying sorry

[katze]

I agree that it doesn't make you a wolf but I do think it's wolf indicative.

I should also obviously offer that I respect your wolfgame (specifically some aspects of it), which make it hard for me to clear you so I do not currentyl see myself putting you out of my poe on the foreseeable future, tho I'm willing to discuss about it and also do not want to lunch you today.

yeah that's fair, that kind of goes both ways although i try to ignore being SCARED of townreading ppl if i can.

clearly that doesnt work and sometimes im just too confident and wrong but yknow. it's more fun being wrong sometimes than living in fear the entire game (is what i would say if my brain let me do that more often)

but yeah if i had to put it into words i think you've made several super villagery posts i just think they're villagery in a way that's not SUPER hard for a wolf to do artificially which i think ur kinda good at as a wolf? but theres other posts that i feel like are probably just real. and then others that i dont understand at all

it's a fun ride for all

[EnderWiggin]

@Achro

I want to make it clear that my comment has nothing to do with how town performed(or didn't).

Or whether or not we win. And I don't think you are "the problem" if town loses this.

I absolutely blame my FPS if today is the crux point and wolves get away cause of it. As I said before: I had my reasons and if it fucked town up that's on me.

[Achro]

@Achro

I want to make it clear that my comment has nothing to do with how town performed(or didn't).

Or whether or not we win. And I don't think you are "the problem" if town loses this.

I absolutely blame my FPS if today is the crux point and wolves get away cause of it. As I said before: I had my reasons and if it fucked town up that's on me.

I dont even care about that really, I just wish I was allowed to be open and vulnerable and honest and not suspected for it.

I'm trying to be a new person online. More authentic.