13er summer game thread

[Cuthillius]

i think i've forgotten how to play werewolf

i wanted to snapvote ladd for his first (?) post last night but i don't want to do that any more

katze is, as ever, too self-aware for their own good

achro calling rvs "drivel" made me guffaw a little in a good way

i feel like the thread is moving a particular way around achro but i haven't quite put a pin on it yet

but i do think there's something there

[ladd]

i think i've forgotten how to play werewolf

i wanted to snapvote ladd

it adds up






@Achro do you have like no read on my other posts? feels weird that your full read on me is based on such a little thing like downplaying my game when i am prob the player who has posted most content besides you




@katze anything in particular made you link achro and cape?

[ladd]

i am weirdly confident cuth is a villager


cape has the most votable ISO so i am gonna vote him

vote: cape

[Achro]

it adds up






@Achro do you have like no read on my other posts? feels weird that your full read on me is based on such a little thing like downplaying my game when i am prob the player who has posted most content besides you




@katze anything in particular made you link achro and cape?

I have no idea how you play as either alignment so I am taking a cautious approach in assigning alignment intentions from other posts. @ladd you are free to quote posts or stances you feel I SHOULD have a take on and I will give one but without much confidence. I can read into everything, but it isn't always the best course to do so early with skilled players.

Cape huh for a wolf buddy. Tbh I would probably just hard bus him for the cred instead of being cute about not being able to read him. Maybe not though.

Cuth I will town lean on tone. Something about their observation on the thread state around me felt both true and genuine. Are they a skilled wolf?

I will say ladd we seem to have a few town reads in agreement so far so I am comfortable living in your world view atm and seeing if day 1 reinforces it as correct or makes it less so. A thing I like to do at times is just float on the sea and see what people do and if my day 1 assumptions feel good or not day 2.

So I will switch it up from the generic boring mildly wolfy read about wolf commentary to a light town lean since we maybe mindmelded a bit on cute

Lead the way.

[insomnia]

cape does seem like the boring, maybe correct vote

his re-entrance was pretty commentary-ish

gonna wait for the no posters to pop in and some other slots to post more before i say anything about wolves

[nebjiamn]

Tbh I would probably just hard bus him for the cred instead of being cute about not being able to read him

(not quite the right emoji but close enuff but just a super weird comment in context)

[Achro]

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(not quite the right emoji but close enuff but just a super weird comment in context)

Not an achro game if I don't make super weird comments as either alignment tbh

And if anyone denies this you can kill them for the crime of being wrong in a mafia game. Have we played together before?

[Cuthillius]

vote:katze

[nebjiamn]

Not an achro game if I don't make super weird comments as either alignment tbh

And if anyone denies this you can kill them for the crime of being wrong in a mafia game. Have we played together before?

maybe its cause i don't have a developed cape read but it just reads super weird to me to say you'd bus someone with such ... confidence ? when we're 100 posts into the game and lots people are sitting at or under 10

and i don't think so, other than maybe in a mash

[Achro]

maybe its cause i don't have a developed cape read but it just reads super weird to me to say you'd bus someone with such ... confidence ? when we're 100 posts into the game and lots people are sitting at or under 10

and i don't think so, other than maybe in a mash

Ah.

As for the comment it the context is in a game we played together where he was wolf killed day 1 and I was town who hard defended him until the very last second when litten convinced me to sheep.

It was about lore more than this game.

[nebjiamn]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp

ladd my strongest tr. i kinda wanted to yolo visor v earlier but now it seems a bit blaze to do but i'll prob just ride it anyway.

katze seems better but i'm going to keep voting them so i don't look silly when they flip w

cuth seems good too

[Cuthillius]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp

ladd my strongest tr. i kinda wanted to yolo visor v earlier but now it seems a bit blaze to do but i'll prob just ride it anyway.

katze seems better but i'm going to keep voting them so i don't look silly when they flip w

cuth seems good too

my best case on cape is that they were shitposting with me and then they just didn't respond at all when i responded a little acerbically and a part of me ~strongly feels that that could be a nervous wolf thing to do lol because you're scared to answer weirdly and get my attention but it's rvs so you can get away with not engaging

but i don't love how people are treating the slot otherwise so i've been cooling on that recently

[Cape90]

my best case on cape is that they were shitposting with me and then they just didn't respond at all when i responded a little acerbically and a part of me ~strongly feels that that could be a nervous wolf thing to do lol because you're scared to answer weirdly and get my attention but it's rvs so you can get away with not engaging

but i don't love how people are treating the slot otherwise so i've been cooling on that recently

I didn't respond to you to purposefully leave you in the dark about the pocket thing to just see

[ladd]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

[Winston Hughes]

Hardclaim: Broader Than Broadway

[Visor]

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

Too many words

Wolfy

:Curtain:

[Cape90]

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

This is the same person who has said in the thread they were confident that I would probably flip wolf

KILL LADD WITH FIRE

vote: ladd

[ladd]

cuth seems fine in general to me but this thought in particular:

i wanted to snapvote ladd for his first (?) post last night but i don't want to do that any more

they don't really phrase like that as a wolf imo. they'd just vote me



re skimming visor ISO i mayyy have been a bit too generous there. he is fine but objectively there isnt really that much villagery

ender has a GAP between the confidence in his reads vs his reasoning for it that is pinging me a bit


the good news is that I feel cape has good odds of just being a wolf atp, the bad news is that it's prob gonna be a bit hard to find the other 2

[insomnia]

cuth seems fine in general to me but this thought in particular:



they don't really phrase like that as a wolf imo. they'd just vote me



re skimming visor ISO i mayyy have been a bit too generous there. he is fine but objectively there isnt really that much villagery

ender has a GAP between the confidence in his reads vs his reasoning for it that is pinging me a bit


the good news is that I feel cape has good odds of just being a wolf atp, the bad news is that it's prob gonna be a bit hard to find the other 2

this is where im at

[dyachei]

this is where im at

i kind of wonder if cape is slightly threadspewed town because almost no one is v reading him

[insomnia]

i kind of wonder if cape is slightly threadspewed town because almost no one is v reading him

this feels like the opposite of "he was villa read by so many people for no reason that he's spewed town", but im not exactly sure that's how it works

[dyachei]

this feels like the opposite of "he was villa read by so many people for no reason that he's spewed town", but im not exactly sure that's how it works

i just mean that like...no one is even trying to defend him and that makes me nervous

[insomnia]

i just mean that like...no one is even trying to defend him and that makes me nervous

if he's a wolf, why would wolves be trying to defend him? his wagon was already stale and other interactions were going down that weren't pertaining to him

spew comes from the wolves

[Totally not Taffy]

As for Taffy first off way to shade my town sorting process, but also most would agree with the process I use to sort townirs being as you described so fair.

Anyway I don't know taffy's meta but to explain I think generally it is very town indicative to look for gotchas like Taffy did with me. I feel it is more likely villagers look at past games AND also villagers don't really consider the results before cherrypicking data. Taffy got my post count right and said 'how are you going to struggle to solve?' And didn't stop to ask if I was a wolf. Or I'd town killed any wolves. Or if I posted the last day for their posts per day to be accurate. Felt very cute and town to me.

Now if this is stuff Taffy does all the time as a wolf someone will have to let me know.

From what I remember you read fast so feel free to meta dive me here.

im going with my gut mostly for this d1

but im just not buying most / any of his reads. doesn't exactly feel like a perspective i'd have if i were to be wagonned in a game of this caliber

if you want a particular bad point, i kinda don't like that he seems to give people voting him leeway and focusing on people that are not stating much about him / semi-defending him, like he called out benneh for saying he was ~fine and mostly a guess. feels like a perspective a wolf would hold because they'll justify to themselves being wolfy (so they can't call out people voting them) and he had quite a lot of commentary imo

idk, he's in a game with good villagers, and he isn't calling anyone voting him out?

he feels too chill about it in a way that i can't really justify

For clarity, who are you talking about here?

I prefer to think of it as inquiring and looking for actual answers to that question but anyway ender and I are masons now. Sorry not sorry.

(Town read for the person not named ender who can guess why I am tring ender correctly.)

Townreading both you and me and low-posting Winston would be very weird positioning for a wolf regardless of any of our alignments.

Personally if I were in Katie's position as a town slot I woukd be a bit curious why SK and I both as wolves but voted Taffy and along with that didn't make any comment about our pairing being unlikely.

The fact katze thinks of that in relationship to Taffy intuitively but Keith in a big wall doesn't think about it at all along with the fact that walls are pretty easy makes me start to think more than they were just faking their thoughts. Would love to hear Keith's thoughts on the matter though.

This is a good point that I missed when reading SK's wall. However, that kind of inconsistency is more towny than wolfy imo bc wolves strive to construct their reads logically so people accept them more.

i dont think I'm wrong in saying we don't tend to read each other well, particularly in early game. I also don't think I'm wrong to say we clash rather often.

I think you took the opportunity to sheep someone who you think reads me better and vote me

I think this post is towny for Dyachei.

If dya is a wolf this is a perspective slip and ender is town.

I am not saying it is a perspective slip. Only the resulting read if dya flips wolf. Ty for your time.

This is why, I don't think wolf!Dyachei would would be sloppy like that.


See, I've lost another post I had multi-quoted, bc I had definitely quoted one of the VCs. I think Benneh and SK's votes on me come from a towny perspective, but I'm going to give Benneh more townpoints bc SK did the inherently wolfy "drop a good catch-up then dip" thing.

Contrary to that, I think it's a bit wolfy for Visor and Dyachei to agree with the reasoning for voting me but not doing so for ~sentimental? reasons, it looks like they have tmi about me being town.


Winston has to stay neutral, I think he could have easily made all posts I've read as either alignment.