13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

who thinks cuth is town and what are you smoking?

[Winston Hughes]

katze/cuth/visor

obviously i'm wrong

but can someone tell me why?

[Cuthillius]

katze/cuth/visor

obviously i'm wrong

but can someone tell me why?

i do have a reputation of bussing!

[dyachei]

who thinks cuth is town and what are you smoking?

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

[nebjiamn]

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

i wasn't sure what he got upset about most recently but figured i might just have been reading the situation wrong

either way i think cuth's been pretty towny when around

[Winston Hughes]

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

okay, small or not, this might have legs

can you point to the post/sequence in question, and explain what you find townie about it?

[dyachei]

okay, small or not, this might have legs

can you point to the post/sequence in question, and explain what you find townie about it?

that I called him a wolf and he was like frustrated that people weren't engaging with him and just sussing him

look, when I'm a wolf and people call me a wolf, I'm like hyperaware and try to be towny. I think cuth does to a certain extent too. But here he was like look, that's not really a fair call and whinged about it a bit. that's more what a villager does

[Winston Hughes]

that I called him a wolf and he was like frustrated that people weren't engaging with him and just sussing him

look, when I'm a wolf and people call me a wolf, I'm like hyperaware and try to be towny. I think cuth does to a certain extent too. But here he was like look, that's not really a fair call and whinged about it a bit. that's more what a villager does

okay, that seems worth keeping in mind

[Cuthillius]

vote: winston

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor? also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place, since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

also what did you think of sk's entrance

[nebjiamn]

Vote: Ender

idt taffy's a good vote anymore as i'm getting pretty good vibes from their catchup (inb4 marmot is snowing me)

[nebjiamn]

vote: winston

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor? also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place, since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

also what did you think of sk's entrance

don't take this the wrong way cuth but

nah

[Cuthillius]

don't take this the wrong way cuth but

nah

nah u

i mean do you think winston's been particularly villagery?

i liked his posts overall, but i really don't jibe with his current push (not just because of me)

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

[katze]

question to the class: who here has actual experience with w!winston

i'm currently thinking about stuff. just wondering who i should poke should i need to

(also my last post was 48 so this is 49 lolme)

[nebjiamn]

nah u

i mean do you think winston's been particularly villagery?

i liked his posts overall, but i really don't jibe with his current push (not just because of me)

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

yea, sorta?

maybe it was fabricated bs but his post to kat bout malicious intent blah blah blah was pretty neat if from wolf.

i don't really know what you mean by correct winston!w play unless you think cape is lock wolf and he's trying to drum up a diff wagon? but even then i don't think he's really pushing anyone that can/will die today and he's taking feedback on his reads

[Winston Hughes]

it feels like it fits neatly into correct winston!w play in a lot of possible worlds here based on how things have gone today

this is insightful and true

i'm not sure how townie that is, but i've got to give credit

[Cuthillius]

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

[nebjiamn]

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

spicy

can you talk to me about insom? i don't remember you mentioning him before

[Cuthillius]

spicy

can you talk to me about insom? i don't remember you mentioning him before

he's just kinda been there and vibing; i don't think he's a wolf if he's one of the stronger players on the team but i think he makes a lot of sense if our current poe is a bit off (which i think is entirely plausible)

i mostly don't like his cape progression, and otherwise i don't think he's contributed much relative to how many words he's written

[Cape90]

hi. I'm here and can chat. you feel very...aggressive right now.

I feel like I have been aggro recently with my games. I'm gonna be less about chit-chatting right now in real time, and just spend time just compiling my thoughts since I haven't spent enough time here in this thread to have a clear picture of everyone.

I don't see the post as lashing out at everyone, like yeah, the first line is aggro but I am actually chill, but im also aggro at the same time LOL, like I am not angry right now in the slightest.

started the game with a bunch of commentary on the achro thing with no real purpose when as a wolf it was the easiest thing to talk about

next pop ins it felt like he didnt actually care nor truly had any belief in any of his reads (see: his reads on benneh and visor). posting to post etc..



seems the odd one out in a villagery thread

could be wrong but:

I beleived in my reads. They weren't the most solid reads in the world but I believed in them.

Posting to post is fair enough, I was under the impression of this being a chill game. My mistake :).

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

This worldview probably only comes from town so welcome to lazy towncore before I actually dig into you. If you are wolf, enjoy it while it lasts :D

[Achro]

So some things.

No idea how to read into cape being wrong on 3 different posts about scum tells when I am town. I wonder if this is genuine or appearing to be solving an active slot to buy himself time? What are my scum tells in those posts @Cape90 although if you are town at least you know to throw them away next time. Cape are we having a pokemash moment or a smas all stars moment? Hard to tell with you tbh

Anyway much has been made about my insecurity as it were. Jokes on you I took a binding vow at the beginning of 2023 that every time in a game I mention I am flawed, I have imperfect skills, and I have weaknesses my skills actually sharpen and I bend reality to make it so my team always wins.

I am 24-1 this year. The 1 is Anni where town lost because they didn't shoot my top suspect after I died n1 and he power wolfed. I am 15-1 as town. 9-0 as wolf. I am skilled, calm, and ferociously violent as either alignment if need be but mostly chill and here for a good time not a long time. I believe my town game is crisper than ever and my ability to both lead and follow has improved. My read are crystal-like in their clarity and I re evaluate very well these days. As scum my games and the fear I leave behind will speak for themselves.

Ok, so clearly I literally know I am awesome. So what's the deal with what I said earlier? All of that I just rambled about is true but also I recognize that I DO struggle more without meta at times and I do often use posting to help me in scum hunting through real time interactions and sneaky lines of inquiry and play. 50 feels rough compared to I believe the 80 or 100 of the previous game.

Also, I think it should be pretty obvious that fake solving as a wolf and actually figuring out people are very different experiences with limited posts. And if they aren't then they are to me. I guess you can murder me if you want if you think for some weird reason wolf achro faked this sentiment and then proceeded to do his best to solve before post capping. Don't really get it tbh. That post cap didn't obstruct me from wolfing because I just needed to fake solve. I worry for this post cap because I need to actually solve. I feel we may be speaking different languages. Also I posted almost double post cap because you said the game ended in 5 days but I 0 posted day 5 because town messed up and voted before I could post. Just FYI. I THINK this is town from you but also you running this like a treadmill is a little confusing. My solving has clearly at this point been eventful. Sorry for showing a little humility I guess I can turn up the ego if you like lmao. I know that's not what you are saying yeah yeah, it is just the ultimate mountain out of a mole hill and would never be wolf indicative for me. My posting after doesnt really fit into this narrative as I did my best Anyway yknow?

Anyway as for my list idea I thunk I saw it in some game recently and I was like 'oh yeah that sounds fun' I of course know that good mafia players abhor fun (they play mafia after all) so I didn't expect it to be completed but I thought it would be fun if it did. The main purpose is fuck RVS and look, barely any RVS. Beautiful. Secondly I was just vibing with everyone's reactions and going from there. How people talk about things early isn't always apparent day 1 in terms of alignment but I bet if I go back after a scum flips something in that discussion will help me solve, or help others if I am dead. Laying weird situations as groundwork for people to come back to is fun and it has helped me a lot in games.


Anyway I think today has proven my fears to be true in that I feel the game has been really stagnant. Feels like it was mostly me and katze churning the butter while everyone else sat around talking about cape or me or katze all day. For all this talk about solving day one dya hasn't fulfilled much in the way of sharp conclusions. But dya, benneh, and myself all have sk in our bottom 5 and so does katze. So lets kill him for the crime of wall posting and move on.


Oh

Right.

I thought wolf katze wouldn't have their scum partner as 1 town and me as wolf there because of she pushed me over they would look paired if one of them died. Most wolves get really nitpicky about things like that. It wasn't a major read but I liked the thought so I ran with it.

.

God it feels like everyone is interested in cape but me as I read the thread in real time. If that boy is a wolf he was in wolf chat 'yo I am kind of busy just bus me it's cool' or something because the stocks are DOWN and been down since before he did anything to my eye that's alignment anything.

All the while sk posts 5 times and everyone is like 'yeah I am sure it's fine he isn't frozen and crying in wolf chat he posted a wall why would I even vote this'

Idk just feels weird that lots of people have sk in bottom 5 but no one is willing to prod him. I know he can be town but I wanted to hear his thoughts and I never got to which sucks. I guess there's more than one scum. Just posting for visibility I guess? If cape is town this was a very scum sided day be ause despite me capping and thinking cape was OK if he dies as town that means I had no thread control (not surprising) which probably means someone who is good at controlling narratives is wolfing.

Which atp may be good for information as cape isn't exactly super villagery just expressing concerns because today to me will feel super bad if cape is town. If cape is wolf though someone on that wagon is 100% a wolf too seeing as how everyone is like 'yeah cape sure is wolfy'

Which means when cape came back this afternoon he is in antispew wifom territory.

More or less just typing out thoughts after 4pm as my post cap lifts because I am jamming to music.

In the end I guess this is a chill game and maybe this is the chill way to kill a wolf day one.
@SilverKeith I believe I pinged you earlier. Please respond I am clingy.

[Winston Hughes]

anybody wanna grow some balls?

[Achro]

That was a town claim btw

[ladd]

Posting to post is fair enough, I was under the impression of this being a chill game. My mistake :).

It is a chill game! But we still gotta accuse someone of being a wolf

[Winston Hughes]

why is katze giving that much attention to reading me?

[Winston Hughes]

vote: winston

you know me too well

can you talk more about your thoughts on visor?

first impressions were townie enough, but i've not felt his guts in it

and the longer that goes on, the more i wonder...

also i'm curious what made you think i'm wolfy in the first place

skimming, i felt like your posts evinced a better understanding of the gamestate than i think you'd have as town

couldn't put my finger on where, exactly, at least without an iso

since if you don't know what dya's talking about in terms of frustration it kinda gives me the sense that you haven't actually paid attention to ~any of my posts from the last 24 hours

yeah, i haven't really

but that's not how i'm reading you

it's not in the details

it's in the vibe

you feel like you know more

maybe that's my imagination, but i've learned to give these vibes time to percolate

also what did you think of sk's entrance

i thought nothing at all

but i'll check it out