13er summer game thread

[Cape90]

hi. I'm here and can chat. you feel very...aggressive right now.

I feel like I have been aggro recently with my games. I'm gonna be less about chit-chatting right now in real time, and just spend time just compiling my thoughts since I haven't spent enough time here in this thread to have a clear picture of everyone.

I don't see the post as lashing out at everyone, like yeah, the first line is aggro but I am actually chill, but im also aggro at the same time LOL, like I am not angry right now in the slightest.

started the game with a bunch of commentary on the achro thing with no real purpose when as a wolf it was the easiest thing to talk about

next pop ins it felt like he didnt actually care nor truly had any belief in any of his reads (see: his reads on benneh and visor). posting to post etc..



seems the odd one out in a villagery thread

could be wrong but:

I beleived in my reads. They weren't the most solid reads in the world but I believed in them.

Posting to post is fair enough, I was under the impression of this being a chill game. My mistake :).

ladd
achro

benneh
dya
ender
katze

sk
taffy

cape
winston

visor
insomnia

neither ordered within category or particularly confident, sk/taffy are neutral and the two below aren't necessarily different in magnitude but are still different in my head somehow

i'll be sporadically phone-posting at most between now and an hour out from eod

This worldview probably only comes from town so welcome to lazy towncore before I actually dig into you. If you are wolf, enjoy it while it lasts :D

[Achro]

So some things.

No idea how to read into cape being wrong on 3 different posts about scum tells when I am town. I wonder if this is genuine or appearing to be solving an active slot to buy himself time? What are my scum tells in those posts @Cape90 although if you are town at least you know to throw them away next time. Cape are we having a pokemash moment or a smas all stars moment? Hard to tell with you tbh

Anyway much has been made about my insecurity as it were. Jokes on you I took a binding vow at the beginning of 2023 that every time in a game I mention I am flawed, I have imperfect skills, and I have weaknesses my skills actually sharpen and I bend reality to make it so my team always wins.

I am 24-1 this year. The 1 is Anni where town lost because they didn't shoot my top suspect after I died n1 and he power wolfed. I am 15-1 as town. 9-0 as wolf. I am skilled, calm, and ferociously violent as either alignment if need be but mostly chill and here for a good time not a long time. I believe my town game is crisper than ever and my ability to both lead and follow has improved. My read are crystal-like in their clarity and I re evaluate very well these days. As scum my games and the fear I leave behind will speak for themselves.

Ok, so clearly I literally know I am awesome. So what's the deal with what I said earlier? All of that I just rambled about is true but also I recognize that I DO struggle more without meta at times and I do often use posting to help me in scum hunting through real time interactions and sneaky lines of inquiry and play. 50 feels rough compared to I believe the 80 or 100 of the previous game.

Also, I think it should be pretty obvious that fake solving as a wolf and actually figuring out people are very different experiences with limited posts. And if they aren't then they are to me. I guess you can murder me if you want if you think for some weird reason wolf achro faked this sentiment and then proceeded to do his best to solve before post capping. Don't really get it tbh. That post cap didn't obstruct me from wolfing because I just needed to fake solve. I worry for this post cap because I need to actually solve. I feel we may be speaking different languages. Also I posted almost double post cap because you said the game ended in 5 days but I 0 posted day 5 because town messed up and voted before I could post. Just FYI. I THINK this is town from you but also you running this like a treadmill is a little confusing. My solving has clearly at this point been eventful. Sorry for showing a little humility I guess I can turn up the ego if you like lmao. I know that's not what you are saying yeah yeah, it is just the ultimate mountain out of a mole hill and would never be wolf indicative for me. My posting after doesnt really fit into this narrative as I did my best Anyway yknow?

Anyway as for my list idea I thunk I saw it in some game recently and I was like 'oh yeah that sounds fun' I of course know that good mafia players abhor fun (they play mafia after all) so I didn't expect it to be completed but I thought it would be fun if it did. The main purpose is fuck RVS and look, barely any RVS. Beautiful. Secondly I was just vibing with everyone's reactions and going from there. How people talk about things early isn't always apparent day 1 in terms of alignment but I bet if I go back after a scum flips something in that discussion will help me solve, or help others if I am dead. Laying weird situations as groundwork for people to come back to is fun and it has helped me a lot in games.


Anyway I think today has proven my fears to be true in that I feel the game has been really stagnant. Feels like it was mostly me and katze churning the butter while everyone else sat around talking about cape or me or katze all day. For all this talk about solving day one dya hasn't fulfilled much in the way of sharp conclusions. But dya, benneh, and myself all have sk in our bottom 5 and so does katze. So lets kill him for the crime of wall posting and move on.


Oh

Right.

I thought wolf katze wouldn't have their scum partner as 1 town and me as wolf there because of she pushed me over they would look paired if one of them died. Most wolves get really nitpicky about things like that. It wasn't a major read but I liked the thought so I ran with it.

.

God it feels like everyone is interested in cape but me as I read the thread in real time. If that boy is a wolf he was in wolf chat 'yo I am kind of busy just bus me it's cool' or something because the stocks are DOWN and been down since before he did anything to my eye that's alignment anything.

All the while sk posts 5 times and everyone is like 'yeah I am sure it's fine he isn't frozen and crying in wolf chat he posted a wall why would I even vote this'

Idk just feels weird that lots of people have sk in bottom 5 but no one is willing to prod him. I know he can be town but I wanted to hear his thoughts and I never got to which sucks. I guess there's more than one scum. Just posting for visibility I guess? If cape is town this was a very scum sided day be ause despite me capping and thinking cape was OK if he dies as town that means I had no thread control (not surprising) which probably means someone who is good at controlling narratives is wolfing.

Which atp may be good for information as cape isn't exactly super villagery just expressing concerns because today to me will feel super bad if cape is town. If cape is wolf though someone on that wagon is 100% a wolf too seeing as how everyone is like 'yeah cape sure is wolfy'

Which means when cape came back this afternoon he is in antispew wifom territory.

More or less just typing out thoughts after 4pm as my post cap lifts because I am jamming to music.

In the end I guess this is a chill game and maybe this is the chill way to kill a wolf day one.
@SilverKeith I believe I pinged you earlier. Please respond I am clingy.

[katze]

wrt my last reads: i guess calling insom/cape a DIFFERENCE CHECK is a bit unfair. but i do think insom wolf equity skyrockets if cape is a villager and plummets if cape is a wolf. its rly as simple as i dont think hes bussing cape and if capes a villager then im misclearing someone and i think that insom is one of the names id point at first in "someone i am currently misclearing"

anyway ive been being pretty coy on my winston read because i've been kinda uncertain and wanted him to keep cooking, but yeah he's probably a villager lmao. when i earlier poked him and he said he had more content in the sorc17 game at that point, i found this sequence of posts

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

whatever you want

you being under the radar and careful not to say anything untoward reminds me more of how you wolf than how you town

indeed

i know exactly how it looks

i'm not feeling the joy yet

and that is ++rand scum for me

but honestly i'm just not sure what to talk about

partly it's just rustiness, i think

but there's probably also just too much red meat already on the plate

in all of my games in recent years, i've felt like i needed to drive the conversation to some extent

this game's been generating it faster than i've been able to keep up

and have been kinda sitting on it since then. his postings gotten a lot better since then and i really think his play this game is like, actually really similar to that game and i think he's definitely getting a better idea of what to talk about as the day progresses. i imagine if its like day 3 or something and he starts kinda doing nothing of interest and the game starts going to shit then you probably just light his shoes on fire and see what happens but as of now i'm p comfy with him

it's also comforting that the ppl with experience seem to feel similarly since this isn't like, ironclad meta or anything

bet you didn't see that coming @Winston Hughes!

@ladd you earlier said i was probably your top townread/definitely had me amongst them, what changed between then and now where im not really even in your townreads in post 412?

either way our views of the game are p much identical albeit with slightly different ordering so we vibe
@dyachei to be quite honest you're prob my weakest TL [my tiersare ~never ordered] but shrug, ive found your posts after you got going to be p reminiscent of what i recall from your villa game and i'm definitely sheeping ladd a bit. i think he might be a bit too confident but i mean. i say that every time he locks benneh or apoc town on page 2 and hes usually right so. yeah.
@Cape90 it is really really funny to me that you are choosing to do sort by postcount isos instead of natural catchups given you had comparisons to c4 from the dobby game earlier

i'd kinda prefer you. did not do that. but ultimately you should catch up however ur comfortable doing it and if you're town then its on us to find it in you

whenever you have a more concrete worldview tho can you drop a readlist? explanations preferable, i think forming reads via isoing can lead to fragmented views of the game so it might reduce confusion if you do that
@Achro ur a nerd and i expect u to have a paragraph for me to read. and if not then my soulreads are wrong. this is very important to

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kinda surprised nobody questioned taffy being one of my top 3 townreads when i prior had sat on "they're getting townread too easily"

i dont know if that means anything though. just funny.

spoiler: i am projecting more confidence than i should on that read but i kinda just feel the villager in their soul and want to be right

[Cape90]

@Cape90 it is really really funny to me that you are choosing to do sort by postcount isos instead of natural catchups given you had comparisons to c4 from the dobby game earlier

hoenstly EOD snuck up on me, I was like "oh yeah i better preserve post count

[Cuthillius]

God it feels like everyone is interested in cape but me as I read the thread in real time. If that boy is a wolf he was in wolf chat 'yo I am kind of busy just bus me it's cool' or something because the stocks are DOWN and been down since before he did anything to my eye that's alignment anything.

All the while sk posts 5 times and everyone is like 'yeah I am sure it's fine he isn't frozen and crying in wolf chat he posted a wall why would I even vote this'

Idk just feels weird that lots of people have sk in bottom 5 but no one is willing to prod him. I know he can be town but I wanted to hear his thoughts and I never got to which sucks. I guess there's more than one scum. Just posting for visibility I guess? If cape is town this was a very scum sided day be ause despite me capping and thinking cape was OK if he dies as town that means I had no thread control (not surprising) which probably means someone who is good at controlling narratives is wolfing.

Which atp may be good for information as cape isn't exactly super villagery just expressing concerns because today to me will feel super bad if cape is town. If cape is wolf though someone on that wagon is 100% a wolf too seeing as how everyone is like 'yeah cape sure is wolfy'

Which means when cape came back this afternoon he is in antispew wifom territory.

More or less just typing out thoughts after 4pm as my post cap lifts because I am jamming to music.

In the end I guess this is a chill game and maybe this is the chill way to kill a wolf day one.
@SilverKeith I believe I pinged you earlier. Please respond I am clingy.

achro snap voted sk for his first couple posts and asked some softball follow up questions to try to get him to actually post more and engage with the thread while shading people for calling sk wolfy and weakly white knighting cape lmao

[Achro]

achro snap voted sk for his first couple posts and asked some softball follow up questions to try to get him to actually post more and engage with the thread while shading people for calling sk wolfy and weakly white knighting cape lmao

Let me fix that for you.

Shaded people for not voting SK.

Also I know how to prod in wolf chat my dude.

As for SK day 1, sadly he got me with apparently one of his new favorite tricks which I went and checked out day 3. A skill issue to be sure.

[Cuthillius]

Let me fix that for you.

Shaded people for not voting SK.

Also I know how to prod in wolf chat my dude.

As for SK day 1, sadly he got me with apparently one of his new favorite tricks which I went and checked out day 3. A skill issue to be sure.

point isn't the prodding it's the shit sk posts are kinda wolfy lemme ask questions and let him post words and people will probably see him as more v

it's a textbook wolf play

[Achro]

point isn't the prodding it's the shit sk posts are kinda wolfy lemme ask questions and let him post words and people will probably see him as more v

it's a textbook wolf play

Hmm, maybe. I kind of like what you did - ignore the slot for the majority of the day.

Avant Garde sort of wolfing, if I do say so.

[katze]

the dichotomy of me explaining stupid memes and achro/cuth duking it out is really funny but i also feel bad for the potential villager in the cross

[Cuthillius]

Hmm, maybe. I kind of like what you did - ignore the slot for the majority of the day.

Avant Garde sort of wolfing, if I do say so.

yeah it let him be wolfy without giving him stuff to reply to and write generically villagery stuff in response to so i could bus the shit out of him with my partner benneh for the entirety of d2 onwards and then win in lylo off the credit apparently

huge

[Winston Hughes]

anybody wanna grow some balls?

[Achro]

That was a town claim btw

[Achro]

Only a paragraph lmao katze

Lmao

[ladd]

Posting to post is fair enough, I was under the impression of this being a chill game. My mistake :).

It is a chill game! But we still gotta accuse someone of being a wolf

[Achro]

Cape is town I have decided. So he is sc-

I will stop.
@ladd yo. Obv villager here. Mind helping me with sk for a bit with a vote? I think cape is under enough siege and we've got an hour. Let's cook.

[ladd]

Cape is town I have decided. So he is sc-

I will stop.
@ladd yo. Obv villager here. Mind helping me with sk for a bit with a vote? I think cape is under enough siege and we've got an hour. Let's cook.

Ill follow on phone and see what both do at eod

Unless i fall asleep

[katze]

vote: silverkeith

sure ill bite

no promises i stay

[Achro]

back at my computer for the finale

I have changed my mind, SK is town

unvote: Silverkeith

time to murder a wolf in 51 minutes.

[katze]

back at my computer for the finale

I have changed my mind, SK is town

unvote: Silverkeith

time to murder a wolf in 51 minutes.

son of a

[Achro]

Oh hello Keith. If you are town question. Why would my thing be as mech heavy as a draft mafia in a 13er lol


Come on that don't make any sense.

[SilverKeith]

Oh hello Keith. If you are town question. Why would my thing be as mech heavy as a draft mafia in a 13er lol


Come on that don't make any sense.

I didn't say that. My point is that last one felt like a strategy and this one doesn't feel like it. Just a "let's push buttons and see what happens witouth a clear direction".

[Achro]

I didn't say that. My point is that last one felt like a strategy and this one doesn't feel like it. Just a "let's push buttons and see what happens witouth a clear direction".

Yes, very true. You can be town for understanding this and mistaking it for wolfy intent.

I like chaos as town.

[katze]

silverkeith is gonna write something that people dont understand and at eod he will be executed over cape and then achro will coach cape in wolfchat and theyll endgame together

a tale as old as time

[Winston Hughes]

silverkeith is gonna write something that people dont understand and at eod he will be executed over cape and then achro will coach cape in wolfchat and theyll endgame together

a tale as old as time

god damn you!

unvote

[SilverKeith]

silverkeith is gonna write something that people dont understand and at eod he will be executed over cape and then achro will coach cape in wolfchat and theyll endgame together

a tale as old as time

Vote:Katze

[katze]

Vote:Katze

i dont understand this post

time to execute you

(i am laughing at you/winston having opposite reactions to that post)

[katze]

back at my computer for the finale

I have changed my mind, SK is town

unvote: Silverkeith

time to murder a wolf in 51 minutes.

silverkeith is gonna write something that people dont understand and at eod he will be executed over cape and then achro will coach cape in wolfchat and theyll endgame together

a tale as old as time

son of a

god damn you!

unvote

Vote:Katze

this sequence of posts is still really funny

[Winston Hughes]

why is katze giving that much attention to reading me?

[katze]

why is katze giving that much attention to reading me?

i thought u were wolfy and then you gave me a reason to think it was a false ping so i sat and watched and then wrote words about it

as to why i made a show about it

i dont have an answer ngl

[Winston Hughes]

i thought u were wolfy and then you gave me a reason to think it was a false ping so i sat and watched and then wrote words about it

as to why i made a show about it

i dont have an answer ngl

it is with the greatest respect that i leave my vote on you here