13er summer game thread

[Achro]

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What the hell guys I point out an obvious wolf moment because Visor is literally just making up reasons to go after me and no one cares.

Feeling much less proud of my earlier sweep of a town in this community tbh.

See you guys EOD2 I guess.

sigh

[insomnia]

vote: insomnia

sup

you wolfing?

mos def

[Winston Hughes]

vote insomnia

[insomnia]

i guess i must’ve posted something terribly wolfy that i wasn’t even aware of

welp gonna sleep on it

[Cuthillius]

i guess i must’ve posted something terribly wolfy that i wasn’t even aware of

welp gonna sleep on it

sick defense

[insomnia]

not sure what im supposed to be defending against

[Cuthillius]

nothing just being a goof sorry

don't mind me

[nebjiamn]

okay i have a lot of thoughts but i should really be doing other stuff right now so i will try to distill

i feel moderately strongly that benneh/katze are wolves together lol

main points:

-benneh just wasn't very villagery d1? he was kinda floating around and in particular i think the way in which he was pushing ender all day looks kinda gross in retrospect (well before the possibility of pr stuff i think?)
-katze randomly reads benneh strong v off vibes and basically keeps him there all the way through
--at one point earlyish on benneh makes an offhand jokey comment about this but doesn't really push back or follow through much at all; it's a very sort of i should acknowledge this but actually don't mind it kind of post
-both of them, but especially benneh, are very message-boost-y wrt ladd-- iirc all three of them had more or less the same exact readslist, though iirc benneh was like yeah same but a couple of these names would be lower on mine
-in that context ladd nk would make a lot of sense to cement some level of consensus in the thread and codify his takes before he had chances to reevaluate later, plus there weren't really many super hard clear villagers at that point
-both of them (more so katze) had relatively nuanced reads but at the end of the day basically were always gonna end up on cape/achro/ender, and neither really pushed very hard elsewhere, though there were some meaningless votes thrown around in various directions
--granted this is not unique to either of them but fits the overall narrative wrt ladd stuff and general direction
-also both of them are very shruggy towards sk yeet today in a pretty non-committal way

anyway those are my thoughts i think benneh looks a bit worse than katze but i think he makes the most sense with katze that is all goodbye for now

some of these are fair points but like, only really the ones that are tying me to katze and i feel like your'e reaching to fill in the gaps based off of that?

point by point:

-i, uh, disagree. i was plenty villagery yesterday and everyone agreed including lots of people who read me quite well. dya was basically the sole one out on this train and it was before they and I really got to engage

in terms of me floating around, yea, i have/had no intention of being the lead villager this game or tieing up the game thread in things that revolved around my take on a few early things. some point around half way thru d1 i decided i had to start putting my thoughts out because otherwise they're just possibly lost, but i did so in hopes of maintaining a healthy game thread that was fair to people who signed up for a chill game and may not have had the time to engage properly. examples: Silverkeith, who hadn't checked in for a long time, and taffy who had a early spout at SOD and i had a wolf read on but wanted to give them time to expand. i kinda held out as long as i felt like I could

-katze point and subpoint: partially there is some inside joke stuff going on between katze and I about how the other is polarized. i didn't press much on it d1 other than the post i believe you are talking about because 1) i was pretty villa reading kat anyway and 2) it just kind of plays into our dynamic

this has become more of a problem up to and including today where i've seen katze develop lots of reads more and more and create big wall posts but i've become increasingly concerned with their take on me because its CONTINUED to just be very surface level and meme-y

and like, i can see a world where kat is just happy to v read me for what i've done so far but i feel like you're holding me to the fire here for THEIR actions when i AM trying to discern what they're doing here, i just didn't do it on a time table you like, because why would I? i liiked them d1

-ladd point and subpoint about NK: uh, no response really. i enjoy playing with ladd a lot and getting his take on things. literally anyone in this list would nk ladd and it could be for his reads or his ability to re-eval or because literally anything. i don't see your point about how i'm being message boosty because we had a few similar reads while also saying i had a few dissimilar reads. that's... literally everyone

-next point on nuanced reads -- again this is more about katze so w/e, but you are saying 'neither really pushed very hard elsewhere' except i was the one pushing taffy and ender? cape was almost decidedly the elim half way thru day yesterday and i WAS the one pushing elsewhere. then cape posted more and i wasn't really sold on him being ~rand anymore so i was also fine with him dying, but the rest of your point is just a lie. also i don't think i was every voting achro and i'm not sure where you get the idea i would?

-how am i shruggy and non-commital toward a sk yeet lol, he's my top wolf bronana

anyway

i wanted to give villa points for this honestly but after taking the time to break it down i really don't see how you have the basis to say I look worse than aktze here when all the stuff you are pointing at on me is CONDITIONAL upon katze being wolf and me just deciding to let them weird!read me while i play confused about what the hell they're doing

gross post tbh

[Cuthillius]

i’ll add dya in the winston tier

katze / sk / visor / benneh

idk if this can have 3 wolves but let’s see if there’s magic in PoE

mostly just this post made me feel a bit gross and i've independently been thinking about who'd fit in with benneh/katze :v

[SilverKeith]

Hello my dudes how are we goin

Around for a couple hours will catchup

In the meantime I left it at this I think

vote:insomnia

[Cuthillius]

oh god

[SilverKeith]

how do you ISO here again?

[Cuthillius]

how do you ISO here again?

go to gameroom (forum view showing all posts) and click number next to replies:

[insomnia]

incredible coincidence that you come back to place a vote on me at the same time there is some crumb of traction

[Cuthillius]

incredible coincidence that you come back to place a vote on me at the same time there is some crumb of traction

don't worry there's not even a case on you atm

[insomnia]

you been lurking a while or?

[SilverKeith]

Thx cuth I just wanted to see what ladd's reads were

probably 2 from ender/sk/visor and if not then katze (tho i kinda doubt it now tbh)/taffy

i think of the last 4 invitationals i played 3 have ended in a d1 lunch on a wolf with almost no resistance, i dont really think about "why it'd play out like this" I am just trying to lunch the person with the highest odds of being a wolf

Ok sure

Vote:Visor

[katze]

kat can you go a bit more in depth about why you think benneh was villagery d1 apart from ViBeS?

(also i laughed at the copypasta)

visor thoughts on the substance of the post itself independent of how it makes you feel about my alignment?

im glad you enjoyed it its a personal favorite of mine and its rarely applicable let alone to the person who wrote it

anyway uhh

dya+benneh can u both drop a list of like 5ish names you'd be willing to vote today? smaller is fine if u cant think of 5

my impression on how benneh wolfs/villages is a bit different than yours dya but i expect that to be a difference in beliefs more than a difference in alignment between us, but for example i thought the way he brought up taffy to be fairly villagery for him regardless of taffys alignment; i strongly doubt it's w/w and if taffy is a villager i feel like benneh wouldn't be the wolf to try to push them back into contention when he did. plus i just think he has villagery tone lol its probably not that simple with him but so far it hasnt rly failed me

as it stands i guess i can see where you're coming from that he's not doing a ton but i could say that about most the players here and its in my mind partially just because im not used to games this slow. maybe. that explanation makes sense to me at least

its honestly like 90% vibes/tone but this is what i got when i tried to lay it out before

@dyachei how do you feel about benneh nowadays? ik you were skeptical before but it sounded like u lightened up, do you think cuths onto something w him?

...

What the hell guys I point out an obvious wolf moment because Visor is literally just making up reasons to go after me and no one cares.

Feeling much less proud of my earlier sweep of a town in this community tbh.

See you guys EOD2 I guess.

sigh

hey lets not man cmon

i get the annoyance but let people cook, there's three wolves and visor can only be one of em

mostly just this post made me feel a bit gross and i've independently been thinking about who'd fit in with benneh/katze :v

tbh i feel like a me insom benneh team would play way differently but they'd absolutely doink ladd n1

idk if i would but they totez would

Hello my dudes how are we goin

Around for a couple hours will catchup

In the meantime I left it at this I think

vote:insomnia

gm keith



30 i think

[dyachei]

idk anymore katze

benneh is still on my meh list

[insomnia]

i’d bus benneh for the lolz

[nebjiamn]

i’d bus benneh for the lolz

you'd be afraid to post while moppo do all of heavy lifting

moppo know

[insomnia]

yeah well moppo didn’t win us the best wolfteam in a mash now did he

[SilverKeith]

probably going to go back and reread later tonight with more info but i skimmed a bit after the flip and i was not a fan of silverkeiths eod at all

kinda hedgy on cape but no defense. i didn't like the insomnia wagon he spun up or how he was kinda ignoring ender despite ender being in his poe. i note he asked me for clarity on 'why ender' and also pushed back on insomnia about ender receiving votes for his eod posting

idk felt like undue scrutiniy on a poe vote maybe laced with tmi?

I didn't feel like defending cape having little to no grasp in the game. Most of the times I don't defend people I'm just like "I think this is townie or wolfy" and sometimes I'm right.

Only reason ender was in my poe was bc he made no impression on me but then I asked for why and you posted reasons which weren't really convincing iirc.

Then insom who I was suspecting made a post that seemed like a "welp I guess ender lunch might happen" which I didn't like so I didn't feel like going for ender particularly considering I hard missread him last game here.

[katze]

@Benneh i skimmed my iso in the dobby 13er and my progression on you wasnt much different that game than it is this game, why is it an issue now?

called you a "borderline IC" on post 780 of that game, looks like that was a bit more than 24h in, had you as my top town before then, i guess i did question why ladd had you as a strong TR when he did but im p confident it was a "im less confident on benneh" not "i dont think benneh is town" question

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[SilverKeith]

so sk is probably a wolf?

I still don't think dya posts this as a wolf

[Cuthillius]

you been lurking a while or?

humor me

if sk v do you straight up think it's benneh/katze/visor or where do you go next

[SilverKeith]

I need one of you to partner with me for a back and forth applications are open will decide who in the next half an hour.

[nebjiamn]

yeah well moppo didn’t win us the best wolfteam in a mash now did he

cant win best wolf team if you win, that's just too many accolades
@katze is that the game the wolves were obvious and we swept?

idk i don't really remember much of that game and how i was reading you there but preseumably that had a part in it unless im thinking of the wrong game

[insomnia]

humor me

if sk v do you straight up think it's benneh/katze/visor or where do you go next

it doesn’t sound like the team, but i’d likely still kill someone there

probably visor just cuz i seemed to follow what achro was saying about him. it feels like the first real thing i could see someone being a wolf for

[nebjiamn]

ill be honest i'm salty moppo wasn't nominated

think i crushed that game pretty hard