13er summer game thread

[Cuthillius]

Ender v

oh how the tables have turned

[Cuthillius]

i just looked through visor's posts and all i'm getting is not w/w with achro and also probably not with winston but that's not full confidence

[Totally not Taffy]

If you don't think visor is the best chop after what I pointed out, don't know what you're looking for in scum folks. We can talk about other stuff tomorrow lol.

Of all the cases against Visor yours is the worst imo bc you do the same thing Cape did with his case on Ladd, take two posts and imply a contradiction that isn't there when you look at them in context. If I get time I'll show what I mean closer to EoD when postcap is lifted so you can respond.

Speaking of which, this is the second day you've postcapped yourself, you need to pace yourself better bc this is an extremely cheap and easy trick for wolves to get themselves out of the spotlight.

i agree with your case on visor

his worldview doesn’t seem consistent

but idk why you keep having these random 180s on sk, it’s like his mere presence is enough to make you relieve your concerns xD

...and because I find Achro's case on Visor bad, this post reads wolfy to me. Like the type of post a wolfbuddy makes who has decided to bus Visor and thus doesn't need to read and think about the case in order to agree with it.

you liked it cuz you think im a wolf, or you liked it cuz he had villagery thoughts or something?

Insomnia could you please use the reply function, I spent way too long wondering why you were saying this to SK when Visor was actually townleaning you, when really you were probably responding to Achro.

i’ll add dya in the winston tier

katze / sk / visor / benneh

idk if this can have 3 wolves but let’s see if there’s magic in PoE

mostly just this post made me feel a bit gross and i've independently been thinking about who'd fit in with benneh/katze :v

What about it made you feel gross especially since you seem to be agreeing with him?

I'm not sure this tracks but this is suggesting going to insom after a w!sk flip. Insom being the player I wanted to lunch last eod.

I might be biased on this one but I think thinking me and Insom are paired makes no sense but this is the second time I've seen it mentioned.

Idk how to aproach benneh's push on me bc I'm not sure how to actually read Benneh. I think my metric on him at mashes/turbo is that he eventually makes a post I really like and decide he's town and I'm right most of the times (which if we extrapolate to data is prolly rand but welp). Most of the times the post is him sorta making a good post on a wolf which I now think are bad posts aimed at me, a villager.

I think this is a misunderstanding bc the post you're referring to comes right after this question from Visor, but actually that's not who Benneh was replying to, I think he was following on from his own analysis of Katze's post.

[Cuthillius]

What about it made you feel gross especially since you seem to be agreeing with him?

the idk if this can have 3 wolves/the overall kinda deterministic way insomnia's been making reads/the sorta i guess this is the poe in a way that feels icky whether or not benneh/katze were also w

but in that moment i was looking at it in context of how he'd react if he was a third wolf with the two of them and that fit idk

[insomnia]

i believe the red, even if it's fake

taffy, i'll try doing that, but most of my posts are responding to the direct post above

[Totally not Taffy]

Also I wanted to ask if it was actually clear for people that ender was a PR before he claimed. I might've skimmed it or not paying attention but I reached this post and it surprised me bc I wasn't thinking about it

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I am regretting townreadjnf you earlier I think

Also I wanted to ask if it was actually clear for people that ender was a PR before he claimed. I might've skimmed it or not paying attention but I reached this post and it surprised me bc I wasn't thinking about it

For me it was these posts in particular that told me Ender was claiming PR:

Nevermind this is wolfier.

vote: insomnia

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I am regretting townreadjnf you earlier I think

Don't.

Visor is regretting his townread because Ender doesn't seem to care about who dies EoD, Ender's reply is basicallly "I don't need to care because I'm worth more than other town".

[Totally not Taffy]

Ahh I messed up the MQ on that post, sorry

[Totally not Taffy]

the idk if this can have 3 wolves/the overall kinda deterministic way insomnia's been making reads/the sorta i guess this is the poe in a way that feels icky whether or not benneh/katze were also w

but in that moment i was looking at it in context of how he'd react if he was a third wolf with the two of them and that fit idk

Thanks, and ftr I've reread your EoD and I no longer find it wolfy because the way you came to vote Ender felt organic and had that gotcha quality which Visor refers to as "towny sass".

[Cuthillius]

Thanks, and ftr I've reread your EoD and I no longer find it wolfy because the way you came to vote Ender felt organic and had that gotcha quality which Visor refers to as "towny sass".

uwu

for the record i still don't think it was that obvious that ender was a pr and i'm still a bit skeptical of insomnia (and you a little bit by extension) for taking the moral high ground in a how could you it's so clear you're a wolf for pushing that and forcing the claim there

because eh

but i know that's a big blind spot for me in general so idk

[dyachei]

uwu

for the record i still don't think it was that obvious that ender was a pr and i'm still a bit skeptical of insomnia (and you a little bit by extension) for taking the moral high ground in a how could you it's so clear you're a wolf for pushing that and forcing the claim there

because eh

but i know that's a big blind spot for me in general so idk

its obvious in hindsight for me. As I was catching up with EOD I was like...ender is being pretty wolfy but also not. I wonder if he's a wolf. Then he outed as pr and I was like oh yeah. those guys are usually pretty wolfy in thread

[Totally not Taffy]

Winston I am not sure about. I think leaning town rather than scum but it's not something I'm confident on.

Benneh a bit higher town but still not lock right now. I've not been super enthused by his content today tbh.

Top three wolves?

Honestly not a lot changed from before. But also I haven't really thought about it much.

This is where I admit to a bit of a charade going into today. Mostly because I didn't want to give away the game too early.

But I also kinda gave it away too much.

I have a guilty on Visor.

Vote: Visor

Me voting other people was partly to see what would happen from both them and Visor. I don't really have much thought tho because Visor is good and I'm not confident in reading his spew.

Oh hey, I guessed right!

Vote: Visor

its a bit amusing to read that after thinking to myself that i kinda believed his perspective lmao

concerning even

Actually shouldn't we leave Visor to you and use the vote for someone else?

Insom/Benneh doesn't fit as Visor's partners tho so I'm misclearing someone if Katze is town.

Then today has been a mess of multi-way bussing and I don't believe that.

Maybe I'm blind on it but the way Achro went after Visor actually felt unaligned.

Please explain because my first thought was Insomnia/Achro for partners. This mostly from the perspective that they expected you to have a redcheck from SoD.

[Cuthillius]

This mostly from the perspective that they expected you to have a redcheck from SoD.

hmh?

[Totally not Taffy]

Please explain because my first thought was Insomnia/Achro for partners. This mostly from the perspective that they expected you to have a redcheck from SoD.

I mean... this readslist seems taylor made to clear Achro and give as little information as possible about anyone else:

okay for reals though i wanted to put down some OPINIONS

heres where im at:

i think achro posted 90% nonsense yesterday, similar to how he played in the last game, i didnt get a genuine sense from him that he was actively trying to put the game together to be solved. sure he posted shit that seemed like it could be solving, but take the whole picture of his play and i think it really comes across as just pushing people in different direction to careen like a pool break into others and mess with the thread cohesion

thats what he has done this game, he is a solving vacuum, and his read list kills of ladd -> cape was just nonsense. old mate is just a wolf and yall scared of getting yelled at to kill him

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i thought katze posted like katze, didn't really see anything particularly out of the ordinary, didnt read many of their posts to be fair but nothing struck me as super indicative, which is probably just fine

thought winston posted pretty well, obv he knows all he has to do is rustle up one of those villagery sounding tumour like posts and we'd village read him, but i think him constantly returning to the katze well was pretty natural and if hes doing that to play it to me, then fair play. def dont want to kill.

insomnia i freely admit is a light read, but i just kinda like some of the things they are saying and the way they come across. yolo.

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dya still kinda wolfy iyam

uh who else is left. cuth. yeah, idk i dont get cuth this game.

ender - shrug, we will see, not going to waste any time thinking about his alignment today

silverkeith - i understand the potential there, i could be convinced, none of his posting really made any waves to me

benneh and taffy - bennehs posts... i havent really read into them a lot but they have seemed fine. taffy im still reserving judgemnt on

regardless, my top two wolfreads are achro and probably dya

And town points to the person who critiqued it earlier but I don't remember who that was.

[Totally not Taffy]

hmh?

Wolves decided to kill Ladd and leave the PR claimant alive. Then you need to play the next day assuming they might have a result that fingers one of you, so you distance as widely as possible.

[Cuthillius]

Wolves decided to kill Ladd and leave the PR claimant alive. Then you need to play the next day assuming they might have a result that fingers one of you, so you distance as widely as possible.

oh i see i misread i thought you were saying it was likely that visor specifically would be redchecked

that's fair

i thought visor/achro had some non v/v stuff d1 but i don't really remember tbh

[Cuthillius]

*non w/w

[insomnia]

wolves prob weren’t gonna assume ender had a red

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally

Visor(6): Achro, SK, insom, Ender, Dya, Taffy
SK(2): Visor, katze
katze(2): Benneh, WH
Benneh(1): cuth

[katze]

*non w/w

it sounds like you were also right the first time too tbh




wrt ender being an obv PR at eod when he claimed i thought it made sense but i didnt rly think about it prior to him claiming and i think im usually decent with PR stuff so shrug

i would probably also not assume its a cop role and if i did id murder it so fast acab




i actually kinda dont believe its real either but visor deserves to die because its funny anyway so



benneh and achro smell




oh i thanked a dya post calling cuth V earlier cuz i kinda feel like making a team of 3 with him on it is rly hard. mbe insom cuth if i wanna embrace cuths HELLBUSSING tendancies but meh that just seems dumb

plus he seems like the same old cuth ive villaged with a few times so shrug. in most worlds i agree hes town yea



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[Totally not Taffy]

ii actually kinda dont believe its real either but visor deserves to die because its funny anyway so

If it turns out to be fake poison, kill Ender, otherwise assume he's telling the truth.

[Visor]

How are you believing the most obvious fake peek of all time good lord

I am actually a pr, would prefer not to claim (for obvious reasons if you knew my claim, but alas, I will if I have to).

I can also prove it, if given the time

[Cuthillius]

How are you believing the most obvious fake peek of all time good lord

I am actually a pr, would prefer not to claim (for obvious reasons if you knew my claim, but alas, I will if I have to).

I can also prove it, if given the time

town poisoner?

[Winston Hughes]

town poisoner?

[Visor]

town poisoner?

Nah whoever or what alignment the poisoner is that's someone else

I am a vigilante

Yes I holstered n1, I wanted to let D2 play out before I made a shot, just thought the information would be helpful

[Cuthillius]

huh

a lot of kp in this 13er it seems

[katze]

i believe you

vote: sleep

i want him to have the time
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[dyachei]

vote: sk

[Cuthillius]

i believe you

vote: sleep

i want him to have the time
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heck's sake you keep getting me with these jokes

seriously though ender needs to say more words before we ever even think about risking just giving wolves a free shot

[katze]

heck's sake you keep getting me with these jokes

seriously though ender needs to say more words before we ever even think about risking just giving wolves a free shot

i mean if ender is a wolf faking a red why is he gonna fake it on someone who already had rly high odds of dying...?

idk it seems kinda pointless unless like, exactly the world where he was rolecopped as a vig happened, and if that happened then uh

well ok lets be honest visor shoots n1 lol

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[Cuthillius]

i mean if ender is a wolf faking a red why is he gonna fake it on someone who already had rly high odds of dying...?

idk it seems kinda pointless unless like, exactly the world where he was rolecopped as a vig happened, and if that happened then uh

well ok lets be honest visor shoots n1 lol

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i'd expect it to be a nerfed investigative role (tracker or something idk) rather than an explicit cop peek that he just repped as cop peek to hide actual info, and if it is that could actually clarify things without making the situation any worse rn

if visor w he is like a night 2 vig or something like that, otherwise he shoots n1 ~always i assume

unless it's like some random joat situation? but eh even then kp is big deal