13er summer game thread

[Cuthillius]

i did not complete my thought

i think there are very few fringe worlds where visor's ever v

like maybe some weird pr interaction bs but even then it just doesn't seem probable

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm.

I don't have a hard guilty on Visor. (I'm an investigative role not a cop, as someone correctly guessed.) I'm trying to work out if he's actually town or if he's wolf kp trying to get one more night.

[katze]

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[EnderWiggin]

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I'm a motion detector.

[Cuthillius]

oh so he's just a wolf

if he said he holstered but you saw him moving

lmao

gutsy fake though, props for that

[EnderWiggin]

oh so he's just a wolf

if he said he holstered but you saw him moving

lmao

gutsy fake though, props for that

Any MD game you gotta be wary of wolves have a firefighter.

[Cuthillius]

Any MD game you gotta be wary of wolves have a firefighter.

a firefighter?

[EnderWiggin]

Also another PR doing something to Visor also creates motion.

[EnderWiggin]

Like I wanna believe I pinned a wolf but I also might not have.

[katze]

I'm a motion detector.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. kinda wish you said something sooner but lets THINK

v!visor = visited by a player of either alignment

w!visor = visited a player for some reason or was visited by a player, probably a villager

im kinda assuming that they werent visited by a villager personally but we know where the poisoner landed and the factional kill and he claimed a role that would not have visited so

if visor visited then hes outed af

i dont rly trust the vig claim anyway but

if i look at it objectively, and assume the poisoner is a villager (im not convinced a town poisoner would target the guy who claimed PR at eod but) then we can assume wolves have some sort of PR

id wager rolecop/roleblock (or JK)

could be missing some possibilities but those seem like the two most likely candidates. could be a different investigative role but the target pools for wolf investigation roles are usually the same bar watcher

so like. ok does visor ever get roleblocked last night. probably not id imagine the roleblock would land on the gyu who claimed PR if ur not killing him, or if ur poisoning him (rb+poisoner feels like a weird combo) but since we know it didnt then we would have to assume if a RBer exists there was a very good reason for it to target outside of ender. i don't really THINK that reason exists its not IMPOSSIBLE for the wolves to think he was a PR i guesssssss but it feels really unlikely unless i open his iso and i feel like it screams PR which i am too lazy to do rn

a rolecop otoh could rly land anywhere. i actually do believe that if the wolves have a rolecop theres decent odds it targeted visor because i think that world would be one where ender is a wolf trying to bring visor down with him. but if we assume ender is town then like... hm. i mean its kinda hard to guess where that lands. i think its possible i guess. presumably they dont rolecop the pr claim or ladd and if theres 3 wolves then that leaves like 8 people. i think i get rolecopped pretty often in my games but really thats anecdotal so objectively if i wanted to be super generous i could say this has like a 20% chance of happning which is almost certainly above the realistic odds of this happening

i refreshed and saw mention of the possibility of a wolf firefighter/visitor, which. meh, i feel like it doesnt REALLY fit here but maybe rask was inspired by champs. reasonably... well lets use the same logic as abve, doesnt target the PR claim or ladd, doesnt target a wolf. 8 names. possibility for overlap here but lets assume there's none, i dont think a role like that lands on benneh/cuth/taffy gun to head. maybe a few other names, mostly thinking it doesnt land on someone whos kinda consensus villager and doesnt likely get investigated. i could see it landing on visor i guess. i dont know how likely id put it. a pure 1/5 would be another 20% and... idk i guess that feels reasonableish.

i do think it's likely wolves have some sort of PR, maaaybe 2.




as for the other side of the point

if we assume visor is mafia, what are the odds of him doing the factional kill? i can see it happening over like... insom SK pretty easily. i soulread achro as not wanting to carry it. ladd ender obv out of the question. same as myself but i also probably wouldnt want to carry it anyway because #THEFEAR

mmmm idk. pure numbers its 1/3. i dont know if id say visor was in a terrible position to carry a kill last night nor would i say he was in an amazing one. this is pretty hard to really judge just because the mentality of the wolf team is hella hard to guess on day 2 with no wolves dead lmao


theres also the possivblity visor himself visited. which. is outing given his claim






uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk id probably still kill him i dont trust the claim and i dont super feel like he gets visited by a wolf last night but if it happened then lolMD or ender is dying at eod anyway

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