13er summer game thread

[Visor]

#teamkillkatze

[katze]

#teamkillkatze

for why

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: Taffy

Stop trying to look for a town to flash onto.

ender/visor/katze

and, no, i'm not the poisoner

Why Katze in that list?

if i am the goddamn wolf poisoner (KP!) then why has zero fucking people defended me today

Now, now, I gave you a very lukewarm "I think he's a better wolf than this" defense earlier today.

Insomnia has some meh posts but he isn't with visor after a full iso @SilverKeith tbh

I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.

for real though why are we ignoring taffy

Should've shot me when you had the chance

Anyway, I'm king for the day. If I am wrong, I'll eat the loss for town.

I am willing to be made King. If we kill any of them and they are town, you can kill me. Dya not today just cause MAYBE skill issue, but if visor or benneh is town then I have failed and deserve death.

Kingmaker is the worst form of fps. You are not king. Since Visor is part of your solve, why are you trying to shift votes away from him this entire time?



This thread is moving too fast for me to follow and it's too close to 2am.

[Achro]

as someone who spent a couple of years getting d1 mislynched across multiple sites for being open and vulnerable and honest (well, the first two anyway), i can say that the main thing you need to accompany that approach is caring a whole lot less about whether people listen to you, believe you, understand you, or suspect you

you either learn to enjoy the game despite everyone calling you scum (or worse) or you probably need to be more guarded

I don't mind the scum portion, I mind what feels like ... stonewalling, I guess? I just think fundamentally unless certain people are wolf they just made no good faith effort to ever solve me.

I've been playing mafia a long time, I get suspicion. I just wish people I thought were obv town would try to find me harder....

[Cuthillius]

i dont understand why cuth is like, trying to say visors claim is villagery because a wolf would claim differently to live longer when he literally claimed on the premise he could prove himself tonight if he lives today

what

if ender hadn't fully rescinded we would have just killed visor here

that's literally my whole point

[Visor]

for why

wynaut

[Achro]

Stop trying to look for a town to flash onto.




Why Katze in that list?




Now, now, I gave you a very lukewarm "I think he's a better wolf than this" defense earlier today.





I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.




Should've shot me when you had the chance




Kingmaker is the worst form of fps. You are not king. Since Visor is part of your solve, why are you trying to shift votes away from him this entire time?



This thread is moving too fast for me to follow and it's too close to 2am.

...

are you fucking ill?

[SilverKeith]

vote: cuthillius.


mech this you filthy wolf

I don't actually disagree with cuth that much on his mech read and I'm making shit up to win the argument but I think that

- him saying my points didn't make sense
- Proceeding to only focus on this part of the game (visor's claim) that isn't really relevant to the game, while THE REST OF THE GAME IS HAPPENING
- giving me shit for it even if me being "wrong" about mech isn't even meaningful

is actually wolfy.

[nebjiamn]

idk, im finding his last 12 hours wrt hard to parse, he thought i was a lock wolf, and now hes basically defending my claim as not making sense from a wolf pov to skeith

idk, i think him randomly wheeling onto you was fairly villagery, especially given how out of the blue it was, i think insom, myself, skeith, easy targets (right or wrong) comparatively to someone like you who hasnt got the heat in the game

i think id lean ont he side of being a villager, but im not confident (in anything)

but for that exact reason i think he's a wolf?

his post outlines all the reaosns why i'm a wolf with katze and its entirely around how katze reads me and fits as a potential partner

which, at the time, sure, i get

but it presupposes katze is a wolf and meanwhile he has nothing really to go on for them? (I actually outlined all the things he attached as wolf for me were all the things kat did in my reply to him and he shrugged it off)

and like, its easy for him to attach me there when its conditional, but if its conditional why hasn't he developed or sussed out kat since then? it feels like from that post, his sole focus was to put suspicion on me

there was some other stuff that i thought linked him to sk/achro potentially but im ignoring that now since conditionals are proven dumb

[Achro]

or maybe you are just sleep deprived

I moved to benneh because I was trying to compromise

You are the worst.

[insomnia]

ender / taffy / achro / cuth

winston / dya - if things are terribly wrong, then maybe 1 here



visor / benneh / katze / sk


this bout it

[Cuthillius]

ok can we just kill sk

[Visor]

I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.

uh i gotta say

thats a WILD TEAM

[Achro]

vote: visor

knowing this thread we're going to see if I am skill issue'd on sk or not I guess.

[katze]

what

if ender hadn't fully rescinded we would have just killed visor here

that's literally my whole point

yea but if he didnt change the claim to MD (im p sure visor claimed vig before he changed the red to a MD red, it was an alignment cop red at first) then like. ok you're a wolf and red peeked what do you claim to ever buy yourself time

if it was specifically a MD red then id prob agree w you "i holstered as a full vig" is p wild

wynaut

im town



also taffy i think if achro and visor are wolves together than they can win this game for all i care at this point. just seems like its never the case 2 me

[nebjiamn]

...

are you fucking ill?

bruh

take a breath

[Visor]

man imagine if achro/me were w/w

thats some distancing

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally

SK(3): Dya, , Benneh, cuth
Visor(3): Taffy, insom, Achro
Benneh(2): ender, katze
katze(2): WH, Visor

Cuth(1): SK

EOD in 14 min

[SilverKeith]

vote: visor

knowing this thread we're going to see if I am skill issue'd on sk or not I guess.

I'm going to be real with you but if visor flips wolf I think it'd look worse on you than if he were to flip town.

[dyachei]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing

[katze]

anyway achro i get the being frustrated with reads on you thing, im used to it. the way i play definitely doesnt help but people just assuming im always in wolf range is deffo a part of it. i think ive done my best to solve u this game and im sorry if u disagree

also i really think you should leave the thread for like 10 more minutes and take a breather, mbe go on a quick walk

[Cuthillius]

I don't actually disagree with cuth that much on his mech read and I'm making shit up to win the argument but I think that

- him saying my points didn't make sense
- Proceeding to only focus on this part of the game (visor's claim) that isn't really relevant to the game, while THE REST OF THE GAME IS HAPPENING
- giving me shit for it even if me being "wrong" about mech isn't even meaningful

is actually wolfy.

dude

i think visor is ~clear at this point by the mechanics of his claim

and that makes a big difference in my reads

and you're still w-reading him

and so i'm trying to explain the logic to you and it doesn't seem like you're even trying to hear what i'm saying

what on earth else should i be doing right now

[Visor]

im just glad we have a spicy eod lol

[SilverKeith]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing

wtf would you want me to say? I don't get it

[nebjiamn]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cuthillius]

man imagine if achro/me were w/w

thats some distancing

i believe it

[EnderWiggin]

also taffy i think if achro and visor are wolves together than they can win this game for all i care at this point. just seems like its never the case 2 me

I agree with this specifically because of Achro turning around into "Look Visor contridicted himself" midday. The only way that makes sense is if they actively did think I had a red and were turning w/w to distance for my red.

Which tbh isn't the craziest idea but I don't think I broadcast it that loud that I was planning a guilty.

[SilverKeith]

dude

i think visor is ~clear at this point by the mechanics of his claim

and that makes a big difference in my reads

and you're still w-reading him

and so i'm trying to explain the logic to you and it doesn't seem like you're even trying to hear what i'm saying

what on earth else should i be doing right now

Sorry I don't buy that you think visor is clear for his claim.

I'd buy if you were willing to give him another day but saying a claim clears him is bs.

Like it's just words he's a good wolf how tf could it clear him.

[katze]

the team is me visor and achro and we've done nothing but distance all game

yall never stood a chance

[dyachei]

wtf would you want me to say? I don't get it

idk, try to solve the game and push your reads?

like everyone else in the game?