13er summer game thread

[Achro]

if the wolf wants to bus and try to win f3 against me then good luck to them

if a villager votes wrong thats just the game, no that does not worry me since anyone could vote wrong. maybe i dont understand that part of your question

True I mean hmm

If I was in your position as town I would at least be weighing into the decision. Like I said with katze. It's not about appealing but leaving winston on an island feels strange to me. Or not discussing with each other.

[Achro]

if you're not then you're purposely misframing what i said and its annoying tbh

saying its suspicious i labeled it as "you/kaze or you/cuth" (you being Winston) when i was talking to winston about who his vote would be and then saying who cuth would pick is either braindead or misframing so you choose

I am afraid the third option is neither. If your best retort is an ad hominem attack then perhaps it is best you don't say anything at all.

[katze]

Just your own thoughts on me vs cuth wolf equity. You don't need to like talk to Winston directly. Just lay out thoughts on things. Cards on the table. If we lose we lose. I mean no offense but honestly katze this isn't a good lylo strategy. If it's the team I think you just need to stop playing 4d chess and be earnest and chill with your explanations. Either eindton finds us town or they don't. Your tact is going to fail because it failed the first 3 days with winston. Be earnest and hope to be found.

oh

the problem with that is that i truly have no idea who the wolf between you two anymore and ive already decided im holstering tonight

going into it i thought it was pretty clearly cuth but i am now pretty conflicted. i think i generally am good at reading into peoples lylo posting and i think cuths posting today has rung more villagery than yours

from a purely strategic pov i think you are correct that your vote on cuth is not-optimal-for-w!you unless your teammate is exactly me, which i know it isnt. i could see a world where the cross is w/w and you're doing something thats kinda stupid in the moment but ~locks the win for you in the long term (see: s8 finale) but that seems like too unlikely of a world to actually buy and if its the case then gj i guess the theater is great but i dont think its theater. i guess i can see a world where you/winston agree on something like this but i figure you'd just try to mislunch me in that world

i havent really had the time or motivation to go back and do a deeper dive than what ive been around to see in realtime, which im sure isnt what anyone wants to hear but i've been juggling this lylo with some pretty stressful OOG stuff that if it werent lylo id prob just say "alright" and stop posting as a result of. im kinda using the thread to blow off steam rn ngl and was intending on stopping posting flat out yesterday until you two crossed because i was emotionally burnt

i guess in my heart i think you're the wolf and in my brain i think you're not

[Achro]

oh

the problem with that is that i truly have no idea who the wolf between you two anymore and ive already decided im holstering tonight

going into it i thought it was pretty clearly cuth but i am now pretty conflicted. i think i generally am good at reading into peoples lylo posting and i think cuths posting today has rung more villagery than yours

from a purely strategic pov i think you are correct that your vote on cuth is not-optimal-for-w!you unless your teammate is exactly me, which i know it isnt. i could see a world where the cross is w/w and you're doing something thats kinda stupid in the moment but ~locks the win for you in the long term (see: s8 finale) but that seems like too unlikely of a world to actually buy and if its the case then gj i guess the theater is great but i dont think its theater. i guess i can see a world where you/winston agree on something like this but i figure you'd just try to mislunch me in that world

i havent really had the time or motivation to go back and do a deeper dive than what ive been around to see in realtime, which im sure isnt what anyone wants to hear but i've been juggling this lylo with some pretty stressful OOG stuff that if it werent lylo id prob just say "alright" and stop posting as a result of. im kinda using the thread to blow off steam rn ngl and was intending on stopping posting flat out yesterday until you two crossed because i was emotionally burnt

i guess in my heart i think you're the wolf and in my brain i think you're not

Really. Oh wow. Maybe benneh is the town how the fuck have you not found me lol. Holstering? Why would you ever want to be at lylo instead of dead when you can protect the clear from this lol

Katze what

[Achro]

Holstering is literally game throwing as town.

What.

[katze]

lmao

[Achro]

Ok forget the vote

holstering? Wtf. Explain

[katze]

it really isnt though

i'll probably change my mind anyway just to increase the odds i get died but i'm more concerned with "the game not ending today" anyway

[Achro]

it really isnt though

i'll probably change my mind anyway just to increase the odds i get died but i'm more concerned with "the game not ending today" anyway

Ok sure but if you are bg you 100% can't holster. You always protect me tonight like. Oh my God I will never forgive you if we live today and you pull some stupid shit like that my dude. Like. Holster????

[Achro]

Imagine a world with you benneh and wonston in f3

And it isn't game throwing???

Katze

Dear god

[katze]

the 1% chance the cross is w/w and i bg you/cuth and the survivor shoots me and "clears" themself because "why would they shoot katze" seems like a good enough reason for me to put my carsd on the table and force the wolf to make a simple NK

[Cuthillius]

the 1% chance the cross is w/w and i bg you/cuth and the survivor shoots me and "clears" themself because "why would they shoot katze" seems like a good enough reason for me to put my carsd on the table and force the wolf to make a simple NK

we would never do that you should definitely not holster

[katze]

nah its definitely pretty unhinged but if the day ends to a 3/2 hammer then the hammerer is confirmed town anyway and id probs just bg them unless its me in which case i would absolutely holster

[Achro]

the 1% chance the cross is w/w and i bg you/cuth and the survivor shoots me and "clears" themself because "why would they shoot katze" seems like a good enough reason for me to put my carsd on the table and force the wolf to make a simple NK

This is not it. There is a way more than 1% chance that winston if town nukes you tomorrow if you do this lmao.

Omg is this clever wolf katze or issue'd town katze I can't tell.

I can't tell. I guess it isn't my decision anymore

Oh right I was responding to benneh

Further. Why would I be brain dead? If your world view holds I turned around correctly on sk yesterday and voted cuth correctly today. Is it such a crime if I am wrong about you? I have never played with you but I hear nothing but glowing things. The manipulation I accuse you of if you are is subtle and very clever if it is true. I am actually telling you 'benneh, if you are a wolf I think very highly of you based on what others have told me' and so I see things I think a skilled wolf would do in lylo.

I don't think having respect for you makes me brain dead tbh.

[Achro]

This turned my world upside down ngl

What a twist

[katze]

lettuce focus on today before we think about tonight lol

im not really going to overthink a night action when i dont even know who the wolf in the cross is

"how have you not found me" you underestimate my lack of confidence and my excessive hedginess

[Achro]

You literally have someone you think is town tunneling you and you want to be alive in f3???

When they could just kill you anyway and be like 'guess they changed their mind' or you are alive and prime winston bait

Katze why are you like this

[katze]

clearly this is just expert level wine and i am baiting the wolves into shooting the obvious bg target so i can eat the shot

[Achro]

lettuce focus on today before we think about tonight lol

im not really going to overthink a night action when i dont even know who the wolf in the cross is

"how have you not found me" you underestimate my lack of confidence and my excessive hedginess

I guess I do. At least I know you will gladly visit onto others what you yourself do not wish visited on you. A little disappointing tbh

I wish I got 2 wolf Rands in champs it will be so nice to make another finals.

[katze]

I guess I do. At least I know you will gladly visit onto others what you yourself do not wish visited on you. A little disappointing tbh

I wish I got 2 wolf Rands in champs it will be so nice to make another finals.

to be honest it's not really me being SCARED of you

like i said cuth feels town to me today lol idk what to tell you

could be false pings i don't intend on placing any votes without doing my due diligence

[Achro]

to be honest it's not really me being SCARED of you

like i said cuth feels town to me today lol idk what to tell you

could be false pings i don't intend on placing any votes without doing my due diligence

Why do you need to rely on your feelings I have taken this dude to task lol. Cuth will deny it (sorry cuth still hug bros) but what the fuck? How do you play as town? What are your thoughts? I have laid out so clearly how his eod process doesn't make sense, his replies don't add up (again sorry cuth still hug bros) and the best you have to offer meis 'He feels town at times' what the fuck lol

Now I am just confused. I thought I had the game figured out but like. You don't comment on any of my points. You ask me no questions. If you are town your lylo approach fucking sucks.

[Achro]

'I don't know the answer'

*sits quietly not saying anything*

What the fuck lol

[Achro]

Like if you get it wrong 'fine' but you aren't even trying to find me or cuth. Stop sitting back. You don't have to care much but please care a little enough to at the very least respect the effort of dead town who probably want to win the game

[katze]

sigh

alright ill just stop posting until im fully up to tune with the game

[Achro]

For the record I am not mad just stunned is all.

If you make a decision and it is wrong I 100% will not be angry or upset at all. Mafia is hard for the uninformed. Don't I know it. This isn't about winning or losing. I just want to feel like I am at least heard is all. That my time was respected.

I am surprised you don't think I am town atp but it's just that. Surprise. I am not like mad about that or anything lol

[Raskolnikov]

im moderately amused that we all just agreed to ignore the postcap. raskol is in shambles

Stop posting!!! Ill maj someone randomly in a few

[Achro]

Stop posting!!! Ill maj someone randomly in a few

Knowing you, you think 1 was the hammer on 5

[katze]

For the record I am not mad just stunned is all.

If you make a decision and it is wrong I 100% will not be angry or upset at all. Mafia is hard for the uninformed. Don't I know it. This isn't about winning or losing. I just want to feel like I am at least heard is all. That my time was respected.

I am surprised you don't think I am town atp but it's just that. Surprise. I am not like mad about that or anything lol

my guy it has nothing to do with disrepecting anyones time it has to do with the fact that my mind is not fully in solving mode and is instead in a floaty void because two of my closest friends are simultaneously going through completely unrelated crises and i don't particularly have the capacity to completely ignore that

[Raskolnikov]

Lolol. U may proceed.

[Achro]

my guy it has nothing to do with disrepecting anyones time it has to do with the fact that my mind is not fully in solving mode and is instead in a floaty void because two of my closest friends are simultaneously going through completely unrelated crises and i don't particularly have the capacity to completely ignore that

Oh. Well fuck mafia then lol. That matters way more. I have no way of knowing that of course but now that I have that information it's understandable. Sorry you have a very play it cool attitude a lot and it is hard to know what is facade vs outside things.

I can go for a walk in the park or something. Mafia isn't the most important thing.