13er summer game thread

[Achro]

and you were also trying to kill my top two townreads lol

even after i townread you i had no real reason to trust your judgement or want to vote with you

Hold on, which one is it?

Because earlier you said...

this is the post i made to explain more when you asked me about that the first time lol

i didn't think dya was a 100% villager

but i did think it was pretty likely towards eod given i did believe pretty strongly in sk at that point and they were one of the people not killing visor and our reads lined up a fair amount

but i wouldn't call that finding them like i didn't really assess their posts individually and decide ah yes this is a villager it just got there towards the end of the phase based on how stuff was playing out

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the post with five names was my poe with the top two being most likely wolves at that point in time and then the backup candidates

Also, I wasn't using my judgment to vote benneh, it was yours. He was YOUR scum read. I offered, and then did vote Benneh, stopping pushing on both of your top town reads.

Shouldn't that make you happy that I am willing to sheep your vote?

[Achro]

So now Dya is your second town read of the game, so you did find her. Earlier you tried to say you didn't. Probably because internally you know it sounds like TMI with how you phrased it. But now they are back to being super town reads and you don't let me sheep one of your top scum reads due to... MY judgment? I was compromising with you. Visor and Dya have no issues that day from me if we vote benneh. Frankly visor lives and probably shoots me lol.

[Achro]

To summarize. Me voting your top tier scum read (one which was SK) for some reason weirded you out more than the time you spent on Insomnia WITH SK, despite SK being your top scum read near EOD and despite Insomnia being a lesser read?

The math has never mathed, and I just hope katze and winston see that.

[Cuthillius]

To summarize. Me voting your top tier scum read (one which was SK) for some reason weirded you out more than the time you spent on Insomnia WITH SK, despite SK being your top scum read near EOD and despite Insomnia being a lesser read?

The math has never mathed, and I just hope katze and winston see that.

ok

my bad I'll vote better next time

[Achro]

ok

my bad I'll vote better next time

I am in no position to judge votes, but what I am critiquing and I believe fairly is the thinking process behind those votes. Your posts for 47 hours of the Cuth were spotless. You did a great job. But I couldn't reckon your EOD actions with your reads list, and nothing you said made it better for me personally and that's what led to my vote.

[Cuthillius]

I am in no position to judge votes, but what I am critiquing and I believe fairly is the thinking process behind those votes. Your posts for 47 hours of the Cuth were spotless. You did a great job. But I couldn't reckon your EOD actions with your reads list, and nothing you said made it better for me personally and that's what led to my vote.

yup

[Achro]

So here's what I think happened.

I think start by the start of day two you and Benneh, the deeper wolves, had figured out that SK was expendable for thread cred and I am sure this was reinforced by Katze over here wanting to just shrugyeet SK. He was, in mafia terms, damaged good. Honestly, he probably dies a lot more cleanly Day 2 without an FPS but hey what can you do. So you and Benneh, the informed minority, know SK is a wolf and Visor is town for all of the day. You accept the FPS because it's fun, but when Ender drops it you go hard defense and bus SK like you two were always planning to do, with a faint hope of maybe getting away with an Insomnia chop if possible until last second.

There are two wolves remaining, there are three people alive who were on Visor.

The question katze and Winston need to ask themselves, among others, is 'I am a town on Visor. Why can't Achro be a town on Visor too?' What good does it do me to try to push over Visor? If visor ISN'T killed, I am obviously paired with my scumbuddy and I look terrible. Same applies to the other two. When SK was thought of a shrugyeet who could POSSIBLY want to kill Visor except for silly, uninformed town members? Even SK himself only joined minutes prior when it was a matter of survival.

There are two wolves. Two members left from the SK wagon. You positioned yourself to win, and you use it as a hammer against those who didn't have the answer. A perfectly executed use of your informed minority status to wrest control of the game once SK flipped except your EOD just doesn't quite make sense. It's such a tiny flaw in an otherwise beautiful game. Too tiny, I think, for most to even look at it twice. I am only hoping, as we enter perhaps the final hours of this game, that I have done enough to be convincing for my fellow townies to see the good in my flawed and uninformed view of the world.

[Cuthillius]

So now Dya is your second town read of the game, so you did find her. Earlier you tried to say you didn't. Probably because internally you know it sounds like TMI with how you phrased it. But now they are back to being super town reads and you don't let me sheep one of your top scum reads due to... MY judgment? I was compromising with you. Visor and Dya have no issues that day from me if we vote benneh. Frankly visor lives and probably shoots me lol.

I can't read my literal explanation of the point you're still trying to make in the quotes you just posted for you, unfortunately

but it's there!