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Raskolnikov 22:51 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
Which given I assume ~3 PRs for this kind of setup means we've successfully all claimed D2.

Semi-bucket strats I guess?

@taffy: did u doc Ender?

anyway now with that third claim u gotta help us by telling us who is cleared pls

ladd 22:51 10-30-2023

vote: wisdom

Alrighty then thats great

If wolves tried to nk you and your wolf reads were wisdom/ender, wisdom is prob a wolf i guess

EnderWiggin 22:53 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
Like what? At least tell us what so it doesn't look like shades.

Tbh, I think most of you are going with a volume tell or something, and since I haven't been able to sit the thread for a while, people are scumreading me because I feel different smh.

idgs to be yeeted, but it would make for a nice change if we can avoid a loose after chopping a scum D1 (which I am really tired of tbh)

Shade isn't me saying "I think this person I'm voting is wolfy because them saying 'waste a valuable day' feels like they're caring too much about if they specifically go over."

That's effectively an accusation coached in softer language.

Visor 22:53 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by ladd:
vote: wisdom

Alrighty then thats great

If wolves tried to nk you and your wolf reads were wisdom/ender, wisdom is prob a wolf i guess

id hope wisdom is a wolf

otherwise i think we are looking at prob bussing

i would look harder at jan i think, i can totally believe jan bussing barto (and you ofc

) and think play today from him has been a touch stagnant (which is fine, but just noting)

Jan 22:55 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
Which given I assume ~3 PRs for this kind of setup means we've successfully all claimed D2.

Semi-bucket strats I guess?

3 prs is basically max tbh

ladd 22:55 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Visor:
id hope wisdom is a wolf

otherwise i think we are looking at prob bussing

i would look harder at jan i think, i can totally believe jan bussing barto (and you ofc ) and think play today from him has been a touch stagnant (which is fine, but just noting)

Brah i am so villagery lol

I think jan had some posts he doesnt make as a wolf but noted

How do you feel about rask?

Jan 22:56 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Visor:
if i can pick up on a soft, so can yall

yall suck :P

you have the knowledge of being vested that none of us had. silly goose.

Raskolnikov 22:57 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
Shade isn't me saying "I think this person I'm voting is wolfy because them saying 'waste a valuable day' feels like they're caring too much about if they specifically go over."

That's effectively an accusation coached in softer language.

nah it's just at time there weren't much discussion but "y Raskol wolfy". But I may be getting paranoid.

I need time to think about all this. That's Visor, you, Taffy, Syn cleared if we take the claims at face value. Good, need 2 more villagers.

Visor 22:57 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by ladd:
Brah i am so villagery lol

I think jan had some posts he doesnt make as a wolf but noted

How do you feel about rask?

posts are still not as... carefree as i would like, not feeling like a tonal lock like he normally does to me when we are v/v

but i could be wrong for various reasons, don't think he has posted badly

(and not sure about his posts on cape - should reread)

as an aside on sleep - kinda think posting basically saying welp not playing today is kinda... too open to be wolfy? but also possible that he is just saying whatever and getting away with it cause no heat in that direction lol

Jan 22:58 10-30-2023

this game just has the weirdest pacing.

kind of waiting for people to do some proper work and be readable but the first half of the day the whole poe was silent.

*shrug*

Visor 22:59 10-30-2023

basically i feel like rask has been more clinical rather than mischievous

Visor 22:59 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Jan:
this game just has the weirdest pacing.

kind of waiting for people to do some proper work and be readable but the first half of the day the whole poe was silent.

*shrug*

thats a fair point, true

EnderWiggin 23:00 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by ladd:
i dont get how you can make this statement when d1 i basically said part of what you said about monty before you and iirc we had similarish reads

and now of all statements to agree with...its wanting more out of rask/wisdom which is something so generic

and now you apparentely think i am a wolf - why? because i am pushing you and i pushed you another game before when I was a villager? idk man that doesnt make much sense to me, am i not allowed to push you anymore cause 1 game i was a wolf in i pushe dyou lol

i think i have explained fairly well why i think you are a wolf this game (it doesnt take a lot of imagination to think of a world where you are a wolf) but just in case i'll re explain it:

you voted monty in what was basicall RVS on pg.1 for (imo) a silly reason, then you turned that into a real (and your only) push towards EoD by quoting basically every post in monty iso and calling it wolfy

then you made this post to monty:

which to me really reads like the classic wolf trying to appease the villager they are pushing by asking some generic questions they don't care to have the answer to (which visor iirc called out, which is why i am even more confuse dby him backing off today)

then from this point on, you have 0 interactions, re valaution or pondering/doubt on monty alignment until you snipe him at the end of EoD:

hope this helps

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1. Monty never responded to me.

2. I often ask people I'm sussing questions to try and get their take. Because even if I never re-evaluate their thoughts can still be useful post death if they flip town. Yes I do this as wolf too.

3. D1 vote was a silly reason. It then turned into a real reason.

4. I think you're wolf because your reads change feels opportunistic (This was said D1 but you apparently didn't read my posts all that well.)
You had me as townread but then the moment someone questions my read on Monty and starts to poke there suddenly I slip out. The way your reads overall have shifted has followed consensus much more than I'd expect from you. I felt this way when you were wolf and pressured me. I also felt this way this game.

Is there possibly a by-product where you sus me and I think back to that game? Maybe. I should probably review this. But I often don't associate you with "following consensus" nearly as much as you are doing this game.

There was something else that I was sussing you for this day phase but I've literally been sussing you ~half the game. So idk why you're acting like this is out of no-where.

(I will concede I did have some of the same thoughts as you d1 and the "first post I agree with" was exaggerated. But you were posting a lot of takes I was like "why tho" and then you finally posted one where I just nodded.)

Raskolnikov 23:01 10-30-2023

my posts are awesome btw Visor, Cape's are outrageous though. beware

Cape90 23:02 10-30-2023

Where we at in the game so far?

EnderWiggin 23:02 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
nah it's just at time there weren't much discussion but "y Raskol wolfy". But I may be getting paranoid.

I need time to think about all this. That's Visor, you, Taffy, Syn cleared if we take the claims at face value. Good, need 2 more villagers.

If I'm honest, I don't *entirely* trust Visor's "It saved me" and would like to know who Taffy docced.

But yeah otherwise

Totally not Taffy 23:02 10-30-2023

12 I think, my counts were off with the Ender claim stuff.

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
Yes.

Everything I can do as town I can do as wolf.

But acting like I don't intentionally create ties and make waiting votes as town is just... not true.

Oh yes, it wasn't a great reason for Cape to wolfread you, but it's not a reason to townread you either. And Visor's reasoning for clearing you was equally bad.
But I guess if he did actually get your vest then he was scrambling to find something.

Oh this sucks I'm going to need to remove all the "no don't listen to Visor this is a bad reason to townread Ender I've totally seen him do this as a wolf" bits from my catchups.

Cape90 23:03 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
my posts are awesome btw Visor, Cape's are outrageous though. beware

I'll be the judge of that when I catch up

Have you not played with me enough to realize my posts are always outrageous?

EnderWiggin 23:04 10-30-2023

Rask/Myself were not silent at all? Who was your "silent POE"?

Totally not Taffy 23:04 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov:
@taffy: did u doc Ender?

anyway now with that third claim u gotta help us by telling us who is cleared pls

I docced you. But Visor was a much more likely NK.

Jan 23:04 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
I...

Assume so?

Lemme confirm.

I was about to ask the same. normally vests last until used but are only active the night after.

It ties visor and yourself at the hip either way which is fine.

ladd 23:05 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by :
Is there possibly a by-product where you sus me and I think back to that game? Maybe. I should probably review this. But I often don't associate you with "following consensus" nearly as much as you are doing this game

Wont address the rest cause its pointless now that you are p much confirmed but my reads this game havent really been consensus?

Idk why you have that idea, i have obviously been exploring p much everything today and d1 there was no consensus afaict but idr syn nor taffy being particularly villaread (or rask for that matter)

45(i think)

Cape90 23:06 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Wisdom:
Not yet!
So far I've read his posts and thought "Yep this is Cape"

Kinda towny take on me ngl LOL

EnderWiggin 23:07 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by ladd:
Wont address the rest cause its pointless now that you are p much confirmed but my reads this game havent really been consensus?

Idk why you have that idea, i have obviously been exploring p much everything today and d1 there was no consensus afaict but idr syn nor taffy being particularly villaread (or rask for that matter)

45(i think)

I don't have time for a reread but I'll try to explain when I have some time.

Also will check to make sure I haven't just... confbiased myself into something.

Cape90 23:08 10-30-2023

VOTE: EnderWiggin

does this mean that Rask was the n1 kill because of Syn's claim if we were to take it at face value???

Cape90 23:08 10-30-2023

ugh i really dont like the EnderWiggin vote but whatever

Syn 23:09 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy:
I docced you. But Visor was a much more likely NK.

lmao RASKOL????????

Visor 23:09 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Cape90:
VOTE: EnderWiggin

does this mean that Rask was the n1 kill because of Syn's claim if we were to take it at face value???

Wolfy post m'lord

ladd 23:09 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by Cape90:
ugh i really dont like the EnderWiggin vote but whatever

Jesus this is such a wolfy post lol

Jan 23:09 10-30-2023

Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
Rask/Myself were not silent at all? Who was your "silent POE"?

Sleep left to take break early and was gone for most of the day.

Wisdom took a while to do anything and I didn't get a strong read on it.

Mostly a lot of *shrug* otherwise.

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