Cereal killer mafia

[Visor]

@Visor how strongly do you feel about ender being a villager?

i am feeling reasonably confident, enough to not go there today at least

[Visor]

Visor

Totally not Taffy - claimed pr
Syn - claimed pr

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

Jan - possibility of bussing inactive partner, but otherwise decent
Suibian - i can see a wolf with jan world where tehy bus inactive partner and ride cred, but otherwise, did not need to make the vote at eod to put barto in danger

ladd - voted barto, but also possibly likeliest busser? idk
Cape90 - haven't minded his posting so far tbh

Raskolnikov
Sleep
Wisdom

is what i am left with, basically.

[Gemma]

Votal 2.1

Ender (2) - ladd (#311), Sleep (#358)
Rask (1) - Cape (#352)

[Jan]

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

I am not sure if we speak the same language. The individual words sound familiar, but they just don't fit together like that in my head.

[Jan]

I am not sure if we speak the same language. The individual words sound familiar, but they just don't fit together like that in my head.

or rather what does

to turbo team

mean? great alliteration, but I don't get it.

[Visor]

or rather what does



mean? great alliteration, but I don't get it.

basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

[ladd]

basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

Ender was already super commited to wolfreading monty tho

Options are monty/barto, how does hebjustify voting barto?

Seems to me like he d vote monty regardless

[Visor]

Ender was already super commited to wolfreading monty tho

Options are monty/barto, how does hebjustify voting barto?

Seems to me like he d vote monty regardless

yeah but then he left it up to the last minute to make it look as bad as possible

like if he is planning to vote monty anyway, he votes and keeps the vote on monty earlier

he looks terrible now because right at the last second he 'voted to save a wolf', but if he voted earlier and kept it there, we wouldn't be having this conversation (i.e. because he wasn't thinking ahead of time in terms of wagon construction, he showed up, yoloed around and madethe worst possible vote, as a wolf he at least votes monty earlier so it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb when he does it imo)

[EnderWiggin]

Ender was already super commited to wolfreading monty tho

Options are monty/barto, how does hebjustify voting barto?

Seems to me like he d vote monty regardless

Tbh memeing around tying the vote and not going back to Monty to exert pressure towards that direction is the non-wolf tell. But yeah even if I was wolf yesterday I was voting Monty.

[Jan]

basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

ah okay sorry.

Makes sense for the most part. Have to check how much he did and if the voting was as clear at the time.
Felt very chaotic to me.

[Wisdom]

I struggle to believe Visor actually believes in his read on me, but I guess that partly stems from expecting him tonbe able to read me (iirc he found me as wolf for the right reasons once) and the fact that his wolf read on me pretty much spawned from me provoking him. Oh well, maybe he's a peasant and not a king ;3

Good job on the yeet, sorry about being wrong.

Too bad Taffy claimed, that was my only tr ^^'

I don't really have any other reads or a plan, so hopefully I'll get there today!

I wish I could see what Ladd sees wrt Syn ^^

[Visor]

I struggle to believe Visor actually believes in his read on me, but I guess that partly stems from expecting him tonbe able to read me (iirc he found me as wolf for the right reasons once) and the fact that his wolf read on me pretty much spawned from me provoking him. Oh well, maybe he's a peasant and not a king ;3

Good job on the yeet, sorry about being wrong.

Too bad Taffy claimed, that was my only tr ^^'

I don't really have any other reads or a plan, so hopefully I'll get there today!

I wish I could see what Ladd sees wrt Syn ^^

part of my read on you simply just a process of elimination

and my wolf read on you didn't really come from that, but i don't really think it matters, its not like i am going to get lunched at any point in this game anymore (unless people get particularly feisty)

it would certainly be helpful to get your perspective today, given there isnt a whole lot going for you right now

[Syn]

I wish I could see what Ladd sees wrt Syn ^^

look within yourself and recognize the deep love you hold for me, and the light will show the way

[EnderWiggin]

I struggle to believe Visor actually believes in his read on me, but I guess that partly stems from expecting him tonbe able to read me (iirc he found me as wolf for the right reasons once) and the fact that his wolf read on me pretty much spawned from me provoking him. Oh well, maybe he's a peasant and not a king ;3

Good job on the yeet, sorry about being wrong.

Too bad Taffy claimed, that was my only tr ^^'

I don't really have any other reads or a plan, so hopefully I'll get there today!

I wish I could see what Ladd sees wrt Syn ^^

I cannot help but read this badly tbh. "I have one read and it's the PR" is awfully convenient.

[Cape90]

basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

I disagree with this line of logic actually. I feel like Ender was townread enough day 1 to where as wolf, I have a feeling that he could end up in a position to where he feels comfy enough to save his mafia partner

like i could see that even though I am currently thinking that he's just town

[Totally not Taffy]

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basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

This post contradicts itself. Ender did vote in a way that could have saved Barto, and here we are with you calling it twtbaw, which is exactly the defense I've seen him use himself for doing exactly this as a wolf. And you know him longer and better than I do. You should not be townreading him for this.

yeah but then he left it up to the last minute to make it look as bad as possible

like if he is planning to vote monty anyway, he votes and keeps the vote on monty earlier

he looks terrible now because right at the last second he 'voted to save a wolf', but if he voted earlier and kept it there, we wouldn't be having this conversation (i.e. because he wasn't thinking ahead of time in terms of wagon construction, he showed up, yoloed around and madethe worst possible vote, as a wolf he at least votes monty earlier so it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb when he does it imo)

Yeah, dude, you need to give up on this read because it's bad. Ender 100% does this as a wolf, and exactly for this reason. Read him off of other things.

Also you never answered my question: why were you ok with Monty and Raskolnikov being in a four-way tie right after asking everybody not to kill them? That is really still bothering me.

@Visor ping me if you do reply

[Cape90]

Visor

Totally not Taffy - claimed pr
Syn - claimed pr

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

Jan - possibility of bussing inactive partner, but otherwise decent
Suibian - i can see a wolf with jan world where tehy bus inactive partner and ride cred, but otherwise, did not need to make the vote at eod to put barto in danger

ladd - voted barto, but also possibly likeliest busser? idk
Cape90 - haven't minded his posting so far tbh

Raskolnikov
Sleep
Wisdom

is what i am left with, basically.

honestly could see Sleep after what they have posted today, but I have liked their postings otherwise

[ladd]

Visor

Totally not Taffy - claimed pr
Syn - claimed pr

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

Jan - possibility of bussing inactive partner, but otherwise decent
Suibian - i can see a wolf with jan world where tehy bus inactive partner and ride cred, but otherwise, did not need to make the vote at eod to put barto in danger

ladd - voted barto, but also possibly likeliest busser? idk
Cape90 - haven't minded his posting so far tbh

Raskolnikov
Sleep
Wisdom

is what i am left with, basically.

this may have been spot on but we lunched the villager from the bottom 3 lol

classic

Like Cape is being the real potatoe conf-biaising himself into locking me for surface level micro reads. Ladd just copypasted my point of view then go on to vote me like the slimmy sloab he is. You are constantly posting I am a wolf since game start for no sensible reasons either.

this lacks some critical thinking on cape alignment imo

like the cape sentence feels like frustration for being caught for the wrong easons rather than evaluating if cape is a villager or a wolf pushing them




rask does still have some nice posts in their iso still tho, mostly tonally; but content wise not sue I buy the stuff they are saying so far anymore



will keep reading later

[Visor]

this may have been spot on but we lunched the villager from the bottom 3 lol

classic

every goddamn game lmao

i think i'm fine with rask/sleep dying for now, ye

[Visor]

idk man i just don't think its gonna be anyone else but those two, teams don't make sense

i think wolves shot me to dodge a doctor, in hindsight

[Raskolnikov]

this may have been spot on but we lunched the villager from the bottom 3 lol

classic



this lacks some critical thinking on cape alignment imo

like the cape sentence feels like frustration for being caught for the wrong easons rather than evaluating if cape is a villager or a wolf pushing them




rask does still have some nice posts in their iso still tho, mostly tonally; but content wise not sue I buy the stuff they are saying so far anymore



will keep reading later

fwiw I did say I was letting him time in the post before that iirc. Also have a bad history reading Cape so there is that, anyway.

[Cape90]

this may have been spot on but we lunched the villager from the bottom 3 lol

classic



this lacks some critical thinking on cape alignment imo

like the cape sentence feels like frustration for being caught for the wrong easons rather than evaluating if cape is a villager or a wolf pushing them




rask does still have some nice posts in their iso still tho, mostly tonally; but content wise not sue I buy the stuff they are saying so far anymore



will keep reading later

I kinda read it as Cape is pushing me for bad reasons therefore he is wolf

I dunno if I would jump to him not critically evaluating me

Otherwise I would have called him out on it