This is Football! (Closed 10er)

[Cuthillius]

You're starting to understand what my earlier question was about: if we are both town, then we need to find the wolf together or we're both dead and that's game unless there's a kill on town's side to prevent an F4 sleep day.

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

[Totally not Taffy]

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle

[Cuthillius]

Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle

because i know i'm town and i've put in some work and talked through things enough to satisfy myself if village yeets me here that's on them

and yes but i've explained why i'm voting you

these things are not the same

[nebjiamn]

@Cape90 @Jan vote or somethin

[Raskolnikov]

EOD in 15 minutes. Tally's unchanged (Cuth and Taffy tied)

[Jan]

@Cape90 @Jan vote or somethin

I have no intention to move my vote.

You just want to have an excuse to unvote again.

[Cuthillius]

cmon

[Jan]

cmon

last time I voted visor was like no you and did weird stuff.

plus chances are Cape has already voted and we will only find out on the weekend.

[Cuthillius]

it's funny but c'mon

[Raskolnikov]

I have no intention to move my vote.

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)

[Jan]

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)

technically not voting is a vote as well!

[nebjiamn]

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)

worst mod in north america wow

[nebjiamn]

I have no intention to move my vote.

You just want to have an excuse to unvote again.

nah i'm not unvoting taffy im juts curious to see yours and capes votes

[Jan]

nah i'm not unvoting taffy im juts curious to see yours and capes votes

Vote: Taffy

You deserve me.

[Totally not Taffy]

because i know i'm town and i've put in some work and talked through things enough to satisfy myself if village yeets me here that's on them

and yes but i've explained why i'm voting you

these things are not the same

I'm voting you bc Visor asked nicely, he was right about Baudib and since my death is part of the wolf's path to victory, there's an above-average chance that they'd push me today.

But fair point.

[Visor]

you know, this feels really fake so idk maybe it's just cuth

I kinda TR Taffy's entrance today

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle

I'm voting you bc Visor asked nicely, he was right about Baudib and since my death is part of the wolf's path to victory, there's an above-average chance that they'd push me today.

But fair point.

good posts by taffy

[Visor]

heres the thing cape

we both pushed baudib (cuth and i)

i pushed him on D1 and D2 (before anyone else said a mean word about him!)

cuth pushed him on d2 when he was in prime bus mode (in fact its exactly what i would have done in his situation, get the villager kill d1, ride the bus d2, use credit, win game) that is the typical wolf bus in this scenario

ww is an inherently probabilistic game #gad

surely you have seen wolves do exactly what cuth has done every game. through the lens of optimal wolf play thats just what you do, you take the available villager kills and then when you recognise your pals time is up, you drive the bus, grasp the credit and use it to get the next villager dead, rinse repeat

you could argue that my play also works for wolves (esp given i am alive in f3 i guess), but that just falls into the trap of just because something is possible and might be true, doesn't make it true. yes all thigns are theoretically possible in this game, but my play doesn't make sense as a pairing because i could have just kept townreading baudib and there was no reason for me to switch onto him except for the fact that i had a genuine belief that he was a wolf. my play is not of the person who is playing for f3, i have not played a smooth game (mostly just a lazy one, lol).

i could've just townread baudib and pushed pzelda - lord knows i did actually look at his (pzelda) posts, thinking they weren't great and then rescinded the thought, asking for him to post - all of that obviously not a pro wolf agenda, given pzelda v and baudib w

cuths play doesn;t speak to a villager who genuinely came to a conclusion that baudib was a wolf, it speaks as a wolf riding the bus onto a dead teammate after they knew they had to cut bait.

i will once again reiterate that cuths eod tells you all you need to know. it is focused not on making the correct decision or coming to a correct conclusion, but by reinforcing the status quo of a villager dying over a wolf.

he did not post with any genuine concern about the state of the wagons or the other players

it was abotu locking in pzelda as the kill.

anyway, i'm off to the mountains, see yall tonight if i have service

glglgl

[Cape90]

Vote: Cuthillius

I really should not have killed benneh
wtf was i doing

If you are town cuth, I will say this was closer then you are making it out to be. Felt like you were trying to shame me into voting Visor though
i hammer gl gl

[Cuthillius]

yes i'm sure i could have done a much better job of making it look like i was coming to the correct conclusion if i knew the correct conclusion ahead of time like you did

but i didn't know baudib was a wolf, and i did think pzelda looked really bad, and for example if you were wolf and baud/pzelda were v/v pzelda would always be the correct first yeet, and basically the only situation that wasn't the right move was this specific one, and your arguing that i was mechanically setting up a good village yeet and then bus ignores all that

and also i'd be putting myself pretty squarely on the line in a way that would look bad if baud did go over there, which i think was not that unlikely there-- as i said i did consider swapping over, and i'm sure by extension other people did as well

it only didn't happen because guess what three other villagers ended up thinking the exact same way i did about pzelda/baud

come on

[Cape90]

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

i was keeping my eye on this post just because it seemed very strange to me

[Cape90]

if cuth is town here, I am sort of thankful i shot benneh

if not

oops