This is Football! (Closed 10er)

[Jan]

Btw, Is Benneh Baudib?

I am living under the assumption that "nebjiamn" is benjamin aka ben aka benneh aka tom o'malley.

[Gemma]

Can you elaborate? Esp on Benneh

cape the amount of energy he's expending to try to have things being doing in the game

i don't care that it's busywork

benneh because they're doing literally anything so they're already above the par bar

their vote on me is boring but you can't win em all

benneh is neb yes

can my token stop being expired pls

[dyachei]

cape the amount of energy he's expending to try to have things being doing in the game

i don't care that it's busywork

benneh because they're doing literally anything so they're already above the par bar

their vote on me is boring but you can't win em all

benneh is neb yes

can my token stop being expired pls

why dont you care that it's been busywork? like am I the only person that sees wolves do a lot of busywork to try and prove how towny they are?

busywork is not villagery. I'm not saying you should actively wolf read him but I wouldnt clear him for it at all

[baudib1]

Gemma’s probably too level 1 partnered with Cape for it to be w/w but I hate myself for even saying that.

If Gemma is a villager they’re making reads in a surface level a way that’s probably dangerous. OTOH nothing really has happened, so…

[baudib1]

If this were a turbo I’d say Benneh giving Taffy a tonal V read is probably V for him because the turbo population isn’t great at reading her.

I, on the other hand, refuse to give Taffy a V!lean (cuz I’m a wolf ldo).

[Visor]

shit, im here, sorry was gonna check in yday and forgot

[Gemma]

shit, im here, sorry was gonna check in yday and forgot

villagery

[Cape90]

why dont you care that it's been busywork? like am I the only person that sees wolves do a lot of busywork to try and prove how towny they are?

busywork is not villagery. I'm not saying you should actively wolf read him but I wouldnt clear him for it at all

this is true, I purposefully will busy work as wolf

[Gemma]

why dont you care that it's been busywork? like am I the only person that sees wolves do a lot of busywork to try and prove how towny they are?

busywork is not villagery. I'm not saying you should actively wolf read him but I wouldnt clear him for it at all

because it's page 2

what else is he or anyone supposed to do

it's either post and make up nonsense or post cats or not post any

[Cape90]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

[Cuthillius]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

what do you want me to do lol visor's literally played this game so he could point at his play and be like hey i bussed my teammate and cuth didn't try to kill baudib as hard as i did

more to the point jan wasn't fucking hellbent on killing me like visor was and also, and i can't emphasize this point enough, obviously not playing like a pr and thus killing him over visor would be signing a death sentence because i'd end up here where visor's gonna try to kill me no matter who's a pr

why would i want to be here right now as a wolf

maybe MAYBE visor is more pushable than jan though again he orchestrated his entire game to look spotless but at least i have some chance of getting one of y'all to vote each other

get out of your pr head for a second and look at a hypothetical me!w perspective where i don't know you're a pr and literally the only reason i could ever get away with not killing visor would be if i was confident i'd hit a pr

maybe you disagree with me that jan wasn't playing like a pr but there's no world in which i shoot someone who doesn't have a high probability of being a pr over visor, because again visor's been trying to get me yeeted over baud (arguably) and taffy (inarguably) for days, both of which are even easier wins for him, and if someone else is a pr then i have to argue against v!visor in this exact situation, which has felt absolutely hopeless from the start

and that's with knowing i'm town

[Cape90]

to me the night kills were predictable and straightforward

Gemma was spewed from baud and was ultra towny d2
Jan has been towny like all game to a clearing degree for me, like if a wolf brought Jan to a final 3, I am almost never voting there, maybe I wasn't transparently clear on that to be fair as I was big lurking days 2 and 3.

But that's also me thinking of the night kills DETACHED from whether I think x person is PR or not

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way about your entire wall you just posted cuth regardless of everything I just said and IDK if I should spell it out or keep it cryptic.

Actually heck it, if I keep it cryptic, I'm not finding you

You have spent a lot of your self defense on Jan talking about Jan obviously not being PR (with 0 receipts by the way). To me all this soul searching for who is PR and who isn't PR sounds like a wolves problem and not towns problem

[Cuthillius]

to me the night kills were predictable and straightforward

Gemma was spewed from baud and was ultra towny d2
Jan has been towny like all game to a clearing degree for me, like if a wolf brought Jan to a final 3, I am almost never voting there, maybe I wasn't transparently clear on that to be fair as I was big lurking days 2 and 3.

But that's also me thinking of the night kills DETACHED from whether I think x person is PR or not

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way about your entire wall you just posted cuth regardless of everything I just said and IDK if I should spell it out or keep it cryptic.

Actually heck it, if I keep it cryptic, I'm not finding you

You have spent a lot of your self defense on Jan talking about Jan obviously not being PR (with 0 receipts by the way). To me all this soul searching for who is PR and who isn't PR sounds like a wolves problem and not towns problem

dude

you think i intentionally put myself in an f4/f3 with visor, who's been trying to kill me since forever and not shown any signs of going anywhere else

even if you think i think jan was a pr and thus a good kill because literally that's the only edge case where this isn't literally suicide you gotta realize that in that world i'd be pushing you

i get that this isn't the strongest defense but idk what the fuck i'm supposed to do because visor did a bus strat and i think it's patently obvious that this would have been shit mechanical play from me as a wolf and is exactly what visor wants as a wolf and i don't know if i can put it any clearer

if you vote me here i get it like i've been assuming i'm dead in the damn water all day

visor bussed hard he got the cred i respect it he can sit there all the live long day and point at how he voted baud earlier and more than i did and how he wasn't wrong on pzelda, who made some wolfy posts, and how i'm wolfy for doing almost exactly what you and taffy and benneh did d1

no persistent hard feelings if you vote wrong here because it would be really damn hard to do anything other than vote me here if i was you i'm sure, but i don't think my point that killing anyone other than visor would be a death wish for me is that obscure dude

[Cuthillius]

does it look like i'm having fun? does it look like i'd wish this situation on myself?

[Cape90]

does it look like i'm having fun? does it look like i'd wish this situation on myself?

it's a final 3 it's hell for all of us

[Cuthillius]

the way visor played, he can say look what i did was villagery and what cuth did is therefore wolfy

i can't win that battle, all i can do is explain what was going on my head and also why i would never play the way i have as a wolf

the chips are stacked against me and if you genuinely think i would intentionally ever land myself in this situation where i'm just dead in the water from the start of the round versus one in which visor's dead and i can have a go at misyeeting you or benneh then that's on you but i've spelled it out pretty clearly

[Visor]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

yes they objectively 'posted more and had more 'solving' posts' if you want to call it that but it doesn't change the actual actions of the game

wolves can post 'solving content' too lol

[Visor]

also his solving posts are bad like i already said lol

[Visor]

im gonna be real all these talk of nightkills

i haven't thought about them for a second LOL i was just annoyed baudib wasn't dead d1 after dya flipped and then annoyed i wasn't dead after baudib flipped

[Gemma]

do i have a chunk of overlap with jan where we're the ~only two people awake

this might be wonderful if he's a villager and also fine if not

actually we're probably both too lazy to do anything about it