This is Football! (Closed 10er)

[Gemma]

Well ben, it's had to not draw that line when you also said this earlier this day 1

Gemma how many games have you played? Have we ever played together

uh

idk

a lot

why

doubt we've played together

[Totally not Taffy]

why is contradictory wolfy

Because wolves sometimes pretend to have one attitude that they think is towny while their actions betray a different one. Here hypothetically it would have been "I don't want to read = look at me not being very invested in this game" in opposition with "making game-related posts instead of rvs shitposting = actually I do care about what's happening". Ofc him not being here supports the former and means the following posts were just "trying to get into the game and failing".

Gemma how many games have you played? Have we ever played together

uh

idk

a lot

why

doubt we've played together

Who are the ppl here that you have played with before, if any?

because if jan is a wolf he has zero control over the gamestate and probably dies to poe day 4 after iguessimbussing his team

Can you explain how Jan has less influence on gamestate than you or I do? What does the bolded mean?
@Gemma

[Gemma]

Can you explain how Jan has less influence on gamestate than you or I do?

that would be hard to do since i don't think that

What does the bolded mean?

iguessimbussing is when wolves townside and end up killing each other because they didn't really do anything for their wincon all game

[Gemma]

taffy and baudib are either best friends irl or masons which i don't think ever exists in a 10p game or wolfbuds or i just flat out don't understand the way they've interacted this game

[Cape90]

taffy and baudib are either best friends irl or masons which i don't think ever exists in a 10p game or wolfbuds or i just flat out don't understand the way they've interacted this game

Can you tell me about what bothers you about how they have interacted with one another?

[Gemma]

Can you tell me about what bothers you about how they have interacted with one another?

buddying each other a bunch mostly

[Totally not Taffy]

taffy and baudib are either best friends irl or masons which i don't think ever exists in a 10p game or wolfbuds or i just flat out don't understand the way they've interacted this game

Can you tell me about what bothers you about how they have interacted with one another?

buddying each other a bunch mostly

So first we're buddying up, which might be wolfy

to be clear i considered it could be because buds but that isn't me saying baudib/taffy w/w i'm just expressing bewilderment / sowing the seeds of destruction etc

though not really

taffys been v reading baudib all game

Here I'm sus for townreading Baudib, and then you continue in the same post:

her baudib read is levels of wonky to me

its out of proportion to what baudib has actually done in a way that i think feels forced

for the amount of effort she's put into her baudib v read (not just in this post) it's wishy washy slash noncommittal, and immediately after trying to convince herself/others baudib is town she moves to considering baudib partners namely visor (also despite not w reading visor) - and shortly afterwards asks visor to sell her on w!baudib. separately these are things that are whatever but together with each other they feel incoherent and dissonant imo

i don't think it fits the bill of a villager with a real read that they're torn about

it looks even worse if baudib flips w (and i currently think he will)

with pointing out where I have been willing to consider I might be wrong and Baudib could be a wolf. You can't have it both ways: either I am sus for townreading Baudib all game OR I am sus for considering wolf!Baudib worlds while previously townreading him, but I can't be doing both.

You seem to be intent on wolfreading me over my Baudib read no matter what it is and that's bad².

What I said about Visor/Baudib was a rebuttal of Dyachei's reasons for unpairing the two because I had a different interpretation of Baudib's posts and the value of Visor's push which is quite clear in my post. Referencing it out of context here is bad³

I started off with townleaning Baudib this game and so far I have disagreed with people's reasons for scumreading him, and I have explained why each time. I do not see how he is more passive than other players (Visor's read) or that he is constructing his reads in a way that's too rational (Dyachei's read) or that his vote for you D1 was scummy (part of Cape's read). I'm not exactly sure what Cuth is scumreading him for.

Asking the person pushing someone I think is town to better explain their read to me should not confuse you. I am trying to understand what people think and why, while at the same time communicating my own reads.

[Cape90]

So first we're buddying up, which might be wolfy



though not really



Here I'm sus for townreading Baudib, and then you continue in the same post:



with pointing out where I have been willing to consider I might be wrong and Baudib could be a wolf. You can't have it both ways: either I am sus for townreading Baudib all game OR I am sus for considering wolf!Baudib worlds while previously townreading him, but I can't be doing both.

You seem to be intent on wolfreading me over my Baudib read no matter what it is and that's bad².

What I said about Visor/Baudib was a rebuttal of Dyachei's reasons for unpairing the two because I had a different interpretation of Baudib's posts and the value of Visor's push which is quite clear in my post. Referencing it out of context here is bad³

I started off with townleaning Baudib this game and so far I have disagreed with people's reasons for scumreading him, and I have explained why each time. I do not see how he is more passive than other players (Visor's read) or that he is constructing his reads in a way that's too rational (Dyachei's read) or that his vote for you D1 was scummy (part of Cape's read). I'm not exactly sure what Cuth is scumreading him for.

Asking the person pushing someone I think is town to better explain their read to me should not confuse you. I am trying to understand what people think and why, while at the same time communicating my own reads.

If the night kills were very much about killing the people who have suspected wolves, signs point to Taffy being wolf, as they had pointed to baud after the dyachei NK

This is the most incriminating quote I could find on that

[Cape90]

I could maybe see Cuth/Visor as more suspicious though in general

[Cape90]

Yes, I am under the assumption 2 wolves > 3 wolves, mylo here would be wild

[Totally not Taffy]

If the night kills were very much about killing the people who have suspected wolves, signs point to Taffy being wolf, as they had pointed to baud after the dyachei NK

This is the most incriminating quote I could find on that

For me the Gemma kill is setting up for a Jan/Benneh/Visor F3 with you as tonight's NK and me/Cuth the expected vig shot depending on who dies today.

Problem is I have reasons to townread all three of them.

[Jan]

taffy and baudib are either best friends irl or masons which i don't think ever exists in a 10p game or wolfbuds or i just flat out don't understand the way they've interacted this game

...

[Totally not Taffy]

I know quotes on this site don't show whole conversations, so I went and fetched the main parts of the conversation for ppl to follow:

is jan a villager?

probably

because if jan is a wolf he has zero control over the gamestate and probably dies to poe day 4 after iguessimbussing his team

Can you explain how Jan has less influence on gamestate than you or I do?

that would be hard to do since i don't think that


iguessimbussing is when wolves townside and end up killing each other because they didn't really do anything for their wincon all game

Your townread of Jan was based on the fact that he has "zero control over gamestate" and "isn't doing anything for his wincon". But at the same time you can't show me how he has less influence on gamestate than I do, the person you're pushing.

Either your read on Jan was bogus or I am town as well.

Also why choose to answer that question but not this one from the same post?

Who are the ppl here that you have played with before, if any?

This is not a hard question to answer and my reason for wanting to know should be obvious. This looks like you're cherry picking which parts of my post to quote and interact with which is bad.