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[Cuthillius]

well i am very glad you didnt cc lol


Vote: cuth

i mean i expected you to be in f4 with me which i wasn't looking forward to but i didn't think it'd be like this

rip baud

honestly i kinda prefer this though?

[Visor]

Well i ack

what is there to even decide

i sent baudib to the shadow realm

cuth pushed hard for pzelda to die over him and had bad w/w interactions

sometimes ww can be a hard game

this game is not

[Cape90]

because its cuth you hippopotamus

i had my night action on cuth for a while, I wish that I had predicted cuth so I could have hard pivoted off of taffy

[Cuthillius]

to be clear i prefer this iteration of me vs you where i know it's you not this situation vs almost any other situation

[Cape90]

After day 1 I started playing lowkey on purpose to not get night killed since I was kinda greeding to get my vig shot

[Visor]

After day 1 I started playing lowkey on purpose to not get night killed since I was kinda greeding to get my vig shot

spicy

im glad my read on you was correct cause i would have felt like a moron otherwise lol

[Cape90]

my thought is i overthought the cuth shot and should have just stuck with that, idk Cuth felt less detached then benneh was seeming to me

[Cape90]

if i beleived taffy was mafia (which i did not) then i would have been more pushy yesterday, but I was like "I think this holds information because Taffy is clearly town here" and i was wrong about it holding info

[Cape90]

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

i was keeping my eye on this post just because it seemed very strange to me

[Visor]

my thought is i overthought the cuth shot and should have just stuck with that, idk Cuth felt less detached then benneh was seeming to me

yes i would agree with this from a unbiased perspective

(also... the fact i punted baudib into the shadow realm...... and cuth did not)

[Cuthillius]

yes i voted for pzelda and i'd do it again his posts were legitimately wolfy and he dropped off the damn map

i was on baud out the gate d2 it was obvious he looked terrible after the pzelda flip

also dude was presumably in counterspew all day d2 what interactions are you on about

both of you tried to kill me eod2 and even if you probably couldn't have gone through with that jan hopped on and it was plausible that i could have gone over there and baud lived another day and you look fine and then yesterday is mylo already

this is a small game hardbussing is a much more legit and reliable play to get a win, especially in a strong playerlist where people are able to post themselves clear

i didn't think you'd have the verve to do it like this but i guess it makes sense given how unidimensionally you've played all game

[Cape90]

vote: jan

was this a joke vote? what was this for

mb sorry

this post came before and it was Jan asking you to self pres on benneh

[Cape90]

yes i would agree with this from a unbiased perspective

(also... the fact i punted baudib into the shadow realm...... and cuth did not)

I assumed there was spew somewhere because both me and ben did the same thing to baud day 2

[Visor]

spew is dumb

kill wolfy posters

[Cuthillius]

i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to say to justify how i've played all game other than i still think going pzelda over baud was the legitimately correct play, i dunked on baud all day d2 except for the moment where i voted you seemingly out of frustration but apparently in a very based way, and then d3 taffy was by far the least villagery person

and i didn't really consider that wolves would play the way they did but fair cop

cape if there's anything i can talk through specifically to help you better understand my perspective let me know

i understand i look worse here because of course i do like i said i expected to end up here after how yesterday went

but i thought it would be a wolf leaving visor alive to push me instead of this

[Cape90]

if cuth is town here, I am sort of thankful i shot benneh

if not

oops

[Cuthillius]

spew is dumb

kill wolfy posters

sure in games where bussing isn't as strong of a strat as it is here

come on

[Cape90]

i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to say to justify how i've played all game other than i still think going pzelda over baud was the legitimately correct play, i dunked on baud all day d2 except for the moment where i voted you seemingly out of frustration but apparently in a very based way, and then d3 taffy was by far the least villagery person

and i didn't really consider that wolves would play the way they did but fair cop

cape if there's anything i can talk through specifically to help you better understand my perspective let me know

i understand i look worse here because of course i do like i said i expected to end up here after how yesterday went

but i thought it would be a wolf leaving visor alive to push me instead of this

idk I disagree with the Taffy assessment, I liked their thought processes around stuff, very genuine feeling to me and they were bringing up really towny things IMO. Stuff that was kinda being heavily ignored

[Cuthillius]

was this a joke vote? what was this for



this post came before and it was Jan asking you to self pres on benneh

both were straight up jokes yes

jan wasn't going over there but he got tilted at the joke unvotes and he voted benneh so i voted him

humor is inscrutable

[Cuthillius]

idk I disagree with the Taffy assessment, I liked their thought processes around stuff, very genuine feeling to me and they were bringing up really towny things IMO. Stuff that was kinda being heavily ignored

in retrospect obviously because visor's a wolf, but a) i was also kinda hesitant around benneh but i thought it was generally better to treat the pr claim as real even if it kinda looked like cover, which left taffy b) look back at the way they talk about baud d1/d2 and tell me that doesn't look bizarre and partnered and c) i was always going to be wrong yesterday because i was assuming the wolves didn't go for the bus the shit out of baud plan

[Cuthillius]

also note that visor was pushing me all day yesterday (albeit without any actual case with which to do so) because me dying before taffy would always be good for him

[Cuthillius]

i would have always shot visor last night

doing otherwise would be suicide 95% of the time

and i actually did think he was most likely pr (with an off-chance of benneh, wp on your part)

[Cuthillius]

to expand on why hard bussing actually makes sense in a game like this

strong players who generally know each other a decent bit, but also small list

this means there should be people who are playing villagery enough that your not dying doesn't raise suspicion, but also that you don't have to keep not being NKed over and over very long before you can win

i assume there's some inciting incident of baud not feeling super into the game-- he did feel pretty limp throughout and didn't really marshal much effort to defend himself or push elsewhere apart from trying to kill me eod2

and i don't know and don't really want to speculate on what that could be, so any explanation i try to give is necessarily limited, but i wanted to point out why it's specifically something that's more viable here than it is in most cases and why it could make sense that the wolves went for it

[Cape90]

also note that visor was pushing me all day yesterday (albeit without any actual case with which to do so) because me dying before taffy would always be good for him

Well, if you ignore #707 then yeah Visor had no case on you whatsoever

[Cape90]

to expand on why hard bussing actually makes sense in a game like this

strong players who generally know each other a decent bit, but also small list

this means there should be people who are playing villagery enough that your not dying doesn't raise suspicion, but also that you don't have to keep not being NKed over and over very long before you can win

i assume there's some inciting incident of baud not feeling super into the game-- he did feel pretty limp throughout and didn't really marshal much effort to defend himself or push elsewhere apart from trying to kill me eod2

and i don't know and don't really want to speculate on what that could be, so any explanation i try to give is necessarily limited, but i wanted to point out why it's specifically something that's more viable here than it is in most cases and why it could make sense that the wolves went for it

I would argue that I don't think Visor knows baudib that well
He can correct me on that though

[Cuthillius]

Well, if you ignore #707 then yeah Visor had no case on you whatsoever

i read it

i've explained multiple times why i voted pzelda there and didn't flip onto baud

the stuff they said literally applies to like you taffy benneh as well in terms of how you handled baud vs pzelda

it's a shit argument

[Cape90]

i would have always shot visor last night

doing otherwise would be suicide 95% of the time

and i actually did think he was most likely pr (with an off-chance of benneh, wp on your part)

If I shot on your literal off chance choice, that would mean I didn't play it well in your opinion right?

[Cuthillius]

I would argue that I don't think Visor knows baudib that well
He can correct me on that though

no i'm talking about everyone in the game-- maybe it's a me thing but i've played with almost everyone on this list multiple times and a lot of the people here are old hat

when it's like this it's a lot easier for villagers to find each other quickly than when people don't know each other as well

arguably visor and baud not being the closest of palios makes it even more likely to go down this way

[Raskolnikov]

I am off friendos, and tmr (in 4 hours for me :D ) I have a job trip, so ping me on discord when u need flips, I will try to update the thread in a reasonable amount of time

Votecount:

Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cuth

gl Cape

[Cuthillius]

If I shot on your literal off chance choice, that would mean I didn't play it well in your opinion right?

i mean if i knew you were v and benneh wasn't pr i'd probably have shot him too, so it seems fine to me? you were never gonna shoot visor (nor would i have)