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    i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

    w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

    she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

    it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hally View Post
    i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

    w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

    she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

    it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?
    yea, i got the feeling just now her reads are anti-consensus but not in a wolfy way. i think her posts look really good if gemma does indeed flip wolf for what youve mentioned here

    but i'm not really sold on the ender read? if i take wisdom as v the poe starts to get very thin even with a gemma wolf flip. it kinda has to be vanta or ender after that fmpov or we have deep wolves

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebjiamn View Post
    yea, i got the feeling just now her reads are anti-consensus but not in a wolfy way. i think her posts look really good if gemma does indeed flip wolf for what youve mentioned here

    but i'm not really sold on the ender read? if i take wisdom as v the poe starts to get very thin even with a gemma wolf flip. it kinda has to be vanta or ender after that fmpov or we have deep wolves
    it’s dya (maybe (or i’m stupid))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hally View Post
    it’s dya (maybe (or i’m stupid))
    is this your actual read on the game state or just in the scenario there's a deepwolf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebjiamn View Post
    is this your actual read on the game state or just in the scenario there's a deepwolf?
    both i guess?

    i hard town read rask/arctic/you

    i don’t really think it’s wisdom or ender (even though i acknowledge it’s possible based on their posting, it doesn’t really feel like it?)

    which leaves either vanta or dya, both of whom i have some concerns about that i actually have to sit down and dig into but i don’t think it’s gonna happen til the weekend

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    I admit I wasn't as villagery as people would like the first couple of days

    But I feel like I hit my stride today. Idk why but maybe because it doesn't feel like we're sleepwalking into an Elim as much?

    I feel like v!hally should be able to recognize that at this point and it concerns me. She's just been naysaying me instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei View Post
    I admit I wasn't as villagery as people would like the first couple of days

    But I feel like I hit my stride today. Idk why but maybe because it doesn't feel like we're sleepwalking into an Elim as much?

    I feel like v!hally should be able to recognize that at this point and it concerns me. She's just been naysaying me instead
    i’m not sure what you’ve done so far today that i should be town reading?

    also i don’t think the characterization that i’m just naysaying you is fair? i explained why i don’t agree with your wisdom push but i don’t think i hard shut you down or anything, i asked if you could flesh it out more when you have time to help me see it

    do you really not think it’s fair for me to think you could be a wolf if it’s not vanta? it would be a lot more helpful to me if you could engage with anything i’ve posted re: wisdom/ender/anything else when you have time (like i’ve been engaging with you) instead of reacting like this whenever i say i think you might be a wolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hally View Post
    i’ve had this kind of read backfire before so maybe this post will be stupid but i’m not sure what wisdom is doing here if she’s a wolf? (assuming gemma w)

    w!wisdom kind of has to mislunch ender to win with how she’s positioned but instead she’s hard town reading him and saying he isn’t w/w with gemma, which nobody else said except me so it’s not something she needs to commit to

    she’s setting up to push into vanta (ok sure), arctic (everyone town reads him except her) or 1 in me/benneh/dya (not easy pushes at all)

    it doesn’t really feel like she’s thinking about a path to winning?
    What do you think of this for instance Vanta (since u asked where u got wrong ) ?
    "Les plus désespérés sont les chants les plus beaux, et j'en sais d'immortels qui sont de purs sanglots." Alfred de Musset

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    What do you think of this for instance Vanta (since u asked where u got wrong ) ?
    TBH that is the kind of thinking I am not really a good enough player to assess. As in, I don't see why wisdom would have to mizzle Ender specifically in order to win with somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanta Black View Post
    TBH that is the kind of thinking I am not really a good enough player to assess. As in, I don't see why wisdom would have to mizzle Ender specifically in order to win with somebody else.
    PS this in no way implies that I think Ender would be a miss. I am just not sure about Ender.

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    look I found this cool gif to cheer up @Syn (fan of the show, which I recommend highly)

    "Les plus désespérés sont les chants les plus beaux, et j'en sais d'immortels qui sont de purs sanglots." Alfred de Musset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov View Post
    look I found this cool gif to cheer up @Syn (fan of the show, which I recommend highly)

    what show is that? i enjoy matt berry

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    gareth marenghi's dark place goat

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    6 minute since last post

    rask frozen

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    And I had such a lovely picture of Chichen Itza for the 12hr VC!

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    Post your pic Taffy. With a dead wolf on top
    "Les plus désespérés sont les chants les plus beaux, et j'en sais d'immortels qui sont de purs sanglots." Alfred de Musset

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