17er Saints and Martyrs

[Hally]

Here is the series of posts I was responding to, with context

I had suspicions about Murska D1, so did others. I think he was at 3 or 4 votes when he claimed. The claim was one of those “Okay I buy this, for now” things. I was skeptical.

But the first bolded section made it sound like Logic had already flipped town. In retrospect it was missing an “if” but at the time, Logic hadn’t flipped. So that looked a bit TMI to me.

The second one, again with 20/20 hindsight looks like Murska just confused Ladd and Zack, because Ladd was still very much in the thread. My thought there was that Ladd had been discussed as the NK at some point, so again, kinda TMI.

So those two posts changed my worldview and made me think I had miscleared Murska, even though it wasn’t a complete misclear.

Then I posted this:


Ladd posted this:


And my post that you quoted was in response to this. Like, yeah, it's not gonna be that easy.

So I was wrong about Murska’s post changing my worldview, it shouldn’t have. But at the time, it did.

ok thanks, that makes more sense

didn’t realize you were talking about murska not logic


also maybe dumb but the bold/underlined part of this post seems like a kinda difficult thought for a wolf to fake?

[Vanta Black]

ok thanks, that makes more sense

didn’t realize you were talking about murska not logic


also maybe dumb but the bold/underlined part of this post seems like a kinda difficult thought for a wolf to fake?

Not dumb, I'm not a wolf, but this will be good to remember next time I actually am!

[Hally]

i dunno, i’m not really sold on vanta being a wolf y’all

[nebjiamn]

i dunno, i’m not really sold on vanta being a wolf y’all

ok now what

(i'm not really swayed by their posting but admittedly i'm not swayed by much right now so what else ya got)

[Hally]

ok now what

(i'm not really swayed by their posting but admittedly i'm not swayed by much right now so what else ya got)

idk

i’m torn between vanta’s macro body of work being pretty clearly the most underwhelming/having the least going for them vs. the micro moments like the one i just pointed out just not feeling like a wolf

i do think their logic push fits with a wolf who saw logic posting weird and a bunch of loud villagers saying he was wolfy and just rode that out because there doesn’t seem to be really any real thought or consideration of logic’s alignment behind the push afaict, so maybe it’s actually just that easy but i dunno


i still need to actually put my nose to grindstone and case out my concerns re: dya but i’m procrastinating because i’m lazy and slept like shit last night and also i want to see what they do without me on their back (also i am scared to upset them more (esp if i’m wrong))

i will def do it this game day though because i want to make sure you’re alive to weigh in on it

[Arctic]

i dunno, i’m not really sold on vanta being a wolf y’all

okay then who is it??? you don't think it's ender, wisdom or vanta so now what