17er Saints and Martyrs

[Vanta Black]

There is some background about my thoughts but it's probably tldr.

It is a late-game exercise that I have found very helpful, the few times I have been in late game as town. Kind of a variation of "why are YOU still here? Why do wolves need YOU alive?"

[Raskolnikov]

There is some background about my thoughts but it's probably tldr.

It is a late-game exercise that I have found very helpful, the few times I have been in late game as town. Kind of a variation of "why are YOU still here? Why do wolves need YOU alive?"

Its not tldr if v!you are likely to get mischop today
Please write it Vanta.

[Vanta Black]

Its not tldr if v!you are likely to get mischop today
Please write it Vanta.

Right now though it's 130am and it's kind of a long thing to type (it is longhand scrawls).

Let me just say that the result of my process made it a close thing between Ender and dyachei and I do appreciate Hally's case. I am rereading still, in context.

We don't havE to have F3, let's get the last one today!

Also, you said you don't want to be in F3 with me, fair enough. Who do you want there instead?

[Raskolnikov]

Right now though it's 130am and it's kind of a long thing to type (it is longhand scrawls).

Let me just say that the result of my process made it a close thing between Ender and dyachei and I do appreciate Hally's case. I am rereading still, in context.

We don't havE to have F3, let's get the last one today!

Also, you said you don't want to be in F3 with me, fair enough. Who do you want there instead?

but like you already posted twice about it but are refusing to give clues about your process. It just looks fake.

What is this last question lol?

[Raskolnikov]

I have started a post about NK strategy for Vanta but it might be seen as openwolfing so I am keeping it for later.

In other news, I have started a full reread, I am now wolf reading Benneh. glgl

[Vanta Black]

but like you already posted twice about it but are refusing to give clues about your process. It just looks fake.

What is this last question lol?

Nah forget that last question.

So basically process is this: Pretend YOU are the last scum, who is left, why are they there? If you slide into thinking "this is why XXX needs to keep them alive" you have failed this process, you have to figure out why you (as scum) are keeping them alive, and (at least in my case I have to) write down the reasons. At the end of this the player with the lease plausible reason is the most likely to be scum.

So that's the process, anyway, hope that helps. It was a much more experienced player who suggested it. Have only had occasion to use it once, and it is hard not to keep slipping into that mindset of why someone else would keep this or that player alive. Not that that isn't helpful but it isn't the exercise. If that makes any sense.

[Vanta Black]

Nah forget that last question.

So basically process is this: Pretend YOU are the last scum, who is left, why are they there? If you slide into thinking "this is why XXX needs to keep them alive" you have failed this process, you have to figure out why you (as scum) are keeping them alive, and (at least in my case I have to) write down the reasons. At the end of this the player with the least plausible reason is the most likely to be scum.

So that's the process, anyway, hope that helps. It was a much more experienced player who suggested it. Have only had occasion to use it once, and it is hard not to keep slipping into that mindset of why someone else would keep this or that player alive. Not that that isn't helpful but it isn't the exercise. If that makes any sense.

A correction

[Raskolnikov]

GOd Vanta, you do this one more time and I will vote you and never look back.

Why Ender killed Benneh in your opinion for God sake?

[Raskolnikov]

@Hally why is Vanta a villager? Look what is happening rn.

[Raskolnikov]

rn I am at OK Vanta just saw they need Ender dead today and will bring Dya/hally in F3 to win. (NKing me/Arctic in whatever order)

glgl

[Raskolnikov]

Fwiw I have thoughts about it but will only post once I get to read yours