17er Saints and Martyrs

[GeneralHankerchief]

current tally, I believe, is:

Syn 5 (4 from last tally post +rask)
Logic 3 (-rask)
Gemma 2 (gh, dya)
Murskah 2 (gemma, visor)

as of 723

+1 to Logic's count via Murska

I believe Murska was offwagon so it should be 5-4

[Arctic]

Logic (4) : Raskolnikov, Hally, Benneh, Vanta
Syn (4) : Ender, Murska, Ladd, Jan
Murska (3) : Visor, Gemma, GH

im kinda not surprised murska is v (taking the claim at face value) judging from this wagon comp lol

thats the only wagon that feels stinky the others feel mostly equally fine to me which might indicate v/v

[Arctic]

ok well im fine with syn dying

[EnderWiggin]

i asked you to explain your dya read and you basically just said "they're town" instead of giving any reasoning so thanks for that

i don't really get why ladd townreading them makes them town if ladd is a wolf? wouldn't he want to townread them as w/w? i wouldn't really expect ladd to bus them here

The way ladd townread them didn't feel w/w.

But I could be wrong.

I just don't think I am.

(And for Dya I pointed out a post about how they came back to warn people about Ladd that felt towny. I don't have 5 pages of reasonings. It's d1.)

[Arctic]

ignore what i just said about the wagons if syn is a wolf

(im not coming out of this looking good either way actually lmao

[ladd]

Alrighty

Sorry if wrong

See you on the other side

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Syn

did seriously entertain voting Logic just for clarity and forcing the issue since I know this is gonna be a thing basically until he flips

[Jan]

glgl enjoy a nice afternoon!

[Arctic]

OK W/E, I really hope you guys are right about this

vote: Syn

[Murska]

Vote: Syn

I prefer this one, anyway.

[EnderWiggin]

This is.

Synful.

[ladd]

Also i had fun, was good playing with gh/zack after long even if we did not get to interact much

I know vibes werent great today but hopefully tomorrow we all get more on the same page

Adieu

[Raskolnikov]

look all these good people willing to be on the correct wagon

sorry if wrong Synchan.

glgl

[GeneralHankerchief]

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[EnderWiggin]

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[Raskolnikov]

tmr give Visor a run for his money, he deserves it

[Raskolnikov]

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Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

[GeneralHankerchief]

at the very least, we got a meme out of the day that I was not expecting us to get

[Totally not Taffy]

Please stop posting, final vote count inc.

[Totally not Taffy]

Final Vote Count

Syn (7) : Ender, Ladd, Jan, Raskolnikov, GH, Arctic, Murska
Logic (3) : Hally, Benneh, Vanta
Murska (2) : Visor, Gemma
Gemma (1) : Dyachei
GH (1) : Zack
Ender (1) : Syn
Vanta (1) : Logic
Visor (1) : Wisdom


Vote History
If you made a vote that wasn't counted, please link it to me on discord

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vote: Arctic

vote: Arctic

vote: nebjiamn

Vote: Logic

Vote: logic

Vote: Logic

vote: logic

vote: Visor

Vote: Jan

Vote: EnderWiggin

vote: Raskolnikov

Vote: GH

Vote: Arctic

vote: Enderwiggin

vote: dyachei

vote: EnderWiggin

Vote: GH

Vote: vanta black

Vote: Jan

Vote: Syn

Vote: Syn

Vote: Syn

Vote: Abstain

vote: syn

vote: Arctic

vote: GH

vote: arctic

unvote: Arctic

vote: arctic

Vote: Ender

vote Vanta

Vote: GH

Vote: Logic

vote: logic

Vote: Gemma

Vote: murska

Vote: logic

Vote: Visor

Vote: Murska

vote: Logic

Vote: Murska

vote: Syn

Vote: Gemma

vote: gemma

Vote: Syn

Vote: Logic

Vote: Syn

vote: Syn

Vote: Syn

Post Counts

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Stand by for flip and flavour.

[Totally not Taffy]

Saint Synsensa was a travelling hermit determined to have praised the Lord on every mountain top of the world. One Sunday morning, while he was coming down from an alpine ridge, he heard the bells of a church ringing throughout the valley below and was struck by their joyous call to service, only to have that awe immediately turn to dread as he witnessed the start of an avalanche brought about by the vibrations in the snow. A sea of moving ice and snow hurled down upon the peaceful valley, with the entire town gathered inside their church for morning prayer. Saint Synsensa lifted his arms to the Heavens and prayed with all his might that they might be saved, and the Good Lord answered by moving the path of the avalanche around the village as a bishop's crosier.

Syn was a Mafia Saint



Remember that night actions are due one hour before SoD!

[Totally not Taffy]

Saint Smoov moves with the groove! Or at least his followers do. Legend has it, that when two armies faced eachother and were locked in a stand-off trench war, Saint Smoov heroically ran out into the no-man's land and danced into the tense silence. Then the war drums of the one side started beating the rhythm he was clapping, and the horns of the other side howled along with the swaying of his hips, and before their generals could make up their minds how to handle the situation, soldiers from both armies were jumping out and dancing along until neither could tell friend from foe, the causes of the war were forgotten and a hundred year peace commenced. Through yearly celebrations in his honour he grew into the God of Dance, popular with young and old alike.

Zack was a Town Saint (VT)

Five more minutes till SoD, Night Action feedback going out now.

[Totally not Taffy]

Have at it!

[Jan]

Everyone's a hero in their own way
You, and you, and mostly me, and you
I'm poverty's new sheriff
And I'm bashing in the slums
A hero doesn't care if you're a
Bunch of scary, alcoholic bums! (=Visor)

[dyachei]

Doesn't this make logic almost assuredly wolf? I can't imagine wolves wouldn't have gotten their shit together to kill him otherwise

[Jan]

Doesn't this make logic almost assuredly wolf? I can't imagine wolves wouldn't have gotten their shit together to kill him otherwise

Depends strongly on who the wolfteam is and when they were around.

Plus once people figured actually out how different syn was from last game I don't think there was a lot saving that slot. (I was surprised it wasn't a runaway wagon for the last 5-10 hours)

[Jan]

@Logic

Imagine - you are Moist! Trusty slightly wet Sidekick!

Tell me who in this game is playing the following characters and please add reasoning (can be short) based on this game:

Dr Horrible
Penny
Captain Hammer
Bad Horse
Bait
Switch

[GeneralHankerchief]

interesting that it ended up being Zack over one of the main Syn pushers like Rask or ladd (or Murska). Medic dodge maybe? Don't think it's actionable now because Zack was obv villager but could be an extra data point to go back to on d4 or something if we're struggling.

(yesyes Zack inb4 "or maybe it's because they wanted to ease the pressure off their howling partner Logic" from DVC)

ender was early on Syn, second overall after Rask's initial push:

Vote: Syn

I have no thoughts of my own.

could be a preemptive bus that he ended up being caught on, but eehhhhhhhhhhh I'm not really interested in going down that path atp, let's just roll with Ender being fine for now

initial thought was "we probably need to look into dya" because they and I were the two main people who were "pushing back" on the Syn wagon (such as it was anyway, neither of us were exactly singing Syn's praises lol) and I know I'm town, but Syn was probably a dead slot walking for roughly half the day and while a useful role, backup isn't something you exactly go out of your way to save on d1. Maybe after it had already activated, but not on d1. hot take, let's look into dya anyway, it'll help

intellectually it could also be Visor but his reasoning on Syn basically matches my own, so lol

syn posts don't do anything for me

i'm not gonna shed a tear if he dies but i don't care about killing him

i'd rather kill murska

I guess I owe it to Zack to go back over Logic so I'll do that at some point today and see if it holds up

[dyachei]

interesting that it ended up being Zack over one of the main Syn pushers like Rask or ladd (or Murska). Medic dodge maybe? Don't think it's actionable now because Zack was obv villager but could be an extra data point to go back to on d4 or something if we're struggling.

(yesyes Zack inb4 "or maybe it's because they wanted to ease the pressure off their howling partner Logic" from DVC)

ender was early on Syn, second overall after Rask's initial push:



could be a preemptive bus that he ended up being caught on, but eehhhhhhhhhhh I'm not really interested in going down that path atp, let's just roll with Ender being fine for now

initial thought was "we probably need to look into dya" because they and I were the two main people who were "pushing back" on the Syn wagon (such as it was anyway, neither of us were exactly singing Syn's praises lol) and I know I'm town, but Syn was probably a dead slot walking for roughly half the day and while a useful role, backup isn't something you exactly go out of your way to save on d1. Maybe after it had already activated, but not on d1. hot take, let's look into dya anyway, it'll help

intellectually it could also be Visor but his reasoning on Syn basically matches my own, so lol



I guess I owe it to Zack to go back over Logic so I'll do that at some point today and see if it holds up

I had similar thoughts about you. But Zack was sure logic was a wolf and he was counter to a wolf wagon and didn't die so it makes me think logic might be a hit now

[Murska]

I considered protecting Zack but chose to go with Rask instead due to wagonomics