17er Saints and Martyrs

[Vanta Black]

curious what people think of dya today

their posts re: ender kinda pinged me

Which ones?

I thought they looked okay. GH flipping town altered my worldview, looks like maybe same for them. Even if they had Ender lock town before, and I don't think they did.

[nebjiamn]

?vote: logic

[Logic]

?vote: logic

You led the GH vote with a question mark as well. Is there some kind of significance I should read into that?

[nebjiamn]

You led the GH vote with a question mark as well. Is there some kind of significance I should read into that?

no, its just a format error when i bold on this website for some reason

[Logic]

It's now 10:30 local. I'm heading to bed very shortly, so you have a few minutes if real timing with me. Tomorrow, assuming you don't hammer me, I plan to exhaust my posts showing my frame of mind.
I do not expect to survive the day, but I ask for the same engagement that GH asked for.

[Totally not Taffy]

I know that you're not angry and not all men but there's twelve of you and only one has voted so it still fits ok?

Vote Count

Logic (1) : Benneh

Haven't voted: Arctic, Ladd, Vanta, Gemma, Ender, Wisdom, Raskolnikov, Logic, Dyachei, Murska, Hally

Hasn't posted today: Raskolnikov

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See you all in 12!

[dyachei]

I shouldn't have posted sick yesterday about ender. But I don't really think the synful thing is as big a stretch as everyone else seems to.

I have my reasons but no one probably cares. Ender is always a hard read for me so yeah I misread that he ended on syn because I thought when he voted to follow others on syn that he was going somewhere else later. And that may have been the intent.

I told you d1 that I accept I'm in the poe. But I never do eod like I did with visor if I'm on a team with him and benneh should know that. I'd be stoked to be on a team with visor and if I could get v!benneh elimmed I would absolutely take it.

[ladd]

i am done with d2 and did a bit of d3


benneh wasnt really pushed by visor hard. visor was pushing for gemma and the benneh push was started mostly by jan/wisdom/ender



with that being said i think benneh is a villager for his posts on d3 anyway

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[dyachei]

i am done with d2 and did a bit of d3


benneh wasnt really pushed by visor hard. visor was pushing for gemma and the benneh push was started mostly by jan/wisdom/ender



with that being said i think benneh is a villager for his posts on d3 anyway

-27

I think visor just took big advantage of that. The way it happened made benneh seem like a clear villager to me

[ladd]

I think visor just took big advantage of that. The way it happened made benneh seem like a clear villager to me

my 2 cents is that i don't think he truly believed benneh would ever go over regardless of his (benneh's) alignment

but i guess we'll find out only in postgame

[Hally]

I shouldn't have posted sick yesterday about ender. But I don't really think the synful thing is as big a stretch as everyone else seems to.

I have my reasons but no one probably cares. Ender is always a hard read for me so yeah I misread that he ended on syn because I thought when he voted to follow others on syn that he was going somewhere else later. And that may have been the intent.

I told you d1 that I accept I'm in the poe. But I never do eod like I did with visor if I'm on a team with him and benneh should know that. I'd be stoked to be on a team with visor and if I could get v!benneh elimmed I would absolutely take it.

weren’t you town reading benneh D2 though? and you were wolf reading gh, how would you actually get away with voting benneh with gh over visor there?

also it’s not the misremembering that ender ended on syn that i took issue with, idc about that. it’s that you’re trying to stretch a joke post to be a legit defense of syn when it was like a few min to EoD and syn was obviously dying atp

surely that’s not the reason why he’s a wolf if he is one? i mean c’mon

[dyachei]

weren’t you town reading benneh D2 though? and you were wolf reading gh, how would you actually get away with voting benneh with gh over visor there?

also it’s not the misremembering that ender ended on syn that i took issue with, idc about that. it’s that you’re trying to stretch a joke post to be a legit defense of syn when it was like a few min to EoD and syn was obviously dying atp

surely that’s not the reason why he’s a wolf if he is one? i mean c’mon

I could have easily changed my read etc. It's not that much of a stretch and as a wolf I definitely would prefer v!benneh dead. He doesn't always find me but he's a damned good villager

[Totally not Taffy]

I'm sure this is how Rask pictures himself rn.

Vote Count

Logic (1) : Benneh
Vanta (1) : Wisdom
Wisdom (1) : Arctic

Haven't voted: Ladd, Vanta, Gemma, Ender, Raskolnikov, Logic, Dyachei, Murska, Hally

Hasn't posted today: Raskolnikov

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vote: logic

Vote: Vanta Black

vote: Wisdom

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I've noticed that posting slows down around the times I'm making these vote counts and it's much appreciated

[Totally not Taffy]

Rask making sure to get in before this VC so I'd have to find a different joke last minute.

Vote Count

Logic (6) : Benneh, Hally, Logic, Vanta, Dyachei, Raskolnikov
Wisdom (2) : Arctic, Gemma
Vanta (1) : Wisdom
Raskolnikov (1) : Ender

Haven't voted: Ladd, Murska


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vote: logic

Vote: Vanta Black

vote: Wisdom

vote: logic

Vote: Logic

vote: Logic

vote: wisdom

Vote: logic

Vote: Logic

Vote: Rask

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One last hour with Ladd, enjoy him while you can! (or hammer, if you must)

[Arctic]

no one hammer pls i wanna talk

i meant to do look at some isos after i woke up before class but i overslept so i didn't have time and now here i am

[ladd]

Ill be here in a bit

[Totally not Taffy]

Final Vote Count

Logic (6) : Benneh, Hally, Logic, Vanta, Dyachei, Ender
Wisdom (3) : Arctic, Gemma, Raskolnikov
Vanta (1) : Wisdom
Ender (1) : Ladd

Hasn't voted: Murska


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vote: logic

Vote: Vanta Black

vote: Wisdom

vote: logic

Vote: Logic

vote: Logic

vote: wisdom

Vote: logic

Vote: Logic

Vote: Rask

Vote: Wisdom

Vote: Logic

vote:vanta/gemma/ender

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Ladd has also died. Please stand by for Logic's flip and flavour.

[Vanta Black]

Should I post my paranoid wild-ass theory? Y/N

[nebjiamn]

Should I post my paranoid wild-ass theory? Y/N

yes but only if i can call it anti-spew later

[Vanta Black]

Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.

Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.

They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.

The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.

There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.

[Logic]

Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.

Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.

They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.

The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.

There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.

We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.

[Vanta Black]

We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.

Tell me how that clears them. We have an RB claim.

[Vanta Black]

I mean, I said it was a wild-ass theory, and I WANT someone to refute it, but that didn't do it for me.

[Logic]

Tell me how that clears them. We have an RB claim.

So I guess I missed a roleblocker claim, too. Who?

[ladd]

We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.

I died?

[nebjiamn]

We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.

ladd was targeted last night and is dying today

[Logic]

ladd was targeted last night and is dying today

I only read the first part of the ability, and assumed he just VTed himself.

Well, that now means that every single person that I've had a scumread on (or tinfoil pocket) has been targeted by the scum for death.

F. my life, I'm garbage this game.

[ladd]

Maybe i am a dummie but i kinda think logic is v? But then idk why zack died

Pure toan rea tho

Dya push on ender seemed questionable...hally posting also kinda pinged me uh oh

[Arctic]

We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.

Lmao what

[nebjiamn]

Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.

Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.

They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.

The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.

There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.

my critique would be that visor's role likely confirms we have a town protective and if we have a protective that hasn't counter-claimed, lets say, by end of mid day today, then they might be soft-throwing here

i don't think its likely visor's role only exists to interact with the way ladd's role is written so we kinda have to have some form of protection/redirection otherwise visor's role is just nonexistant