Tarot Mafia

[Raskolnikov]

i page 1 v read sheep for posting a bunch of nonsense

wym benneh tr

I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)

[Raskolnikov]

I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)

Handed. God phonetic spelling

[ladd]

Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry

[dyachei]

Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry

poor benneh

[ColonelLubriderm]

@ColonelLubriderm

could you go into these a bit more?
what about c0balt do you have as towny?
ik you acknowledge the sheep thing is just agreeing with what others said, but can you explain why it pinged *you* ?

b/c frankly, i think its a really awkward point of attack and think it was more natural than other early TRs on me. wolves aren't srsly gonna "lockclear" a town post 1, espec a town they probs don't want to waste an nk on. think the reasoning others have expressed is pretty weak here, so i'd like to hear yours.

I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.

During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.

[ColonelLubriderm]

so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.

This might be the way

[Wisdom]

I really should stop playing on phone why am I like this.

Apparently all but Monte has posted but it feels like I missed half the playerlist.

The way Ender solves through relaxing and vibing is something that I associate with his town game.

On the other side, Cobalt seems a bit stiff and forced. For some reason his post on this page, about him liking people talking about him, wasn't in his ISO (I'm going insane). It felt real though.

Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.

I'm a bit worried about Syn's approach to the game but I think his "threadstate is pure" post shows a towny mindset. @Raskolnikov I think you know why I'm worried, can you explain why you instantly locked him town?

Newcomb/Ladd is unlikely w/w and I feel like I agree with everything they say even when I don't. So, hopefully both are town and shouldn't be too hard to find them if they're alive wolves in later game.

Jan is still town. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.

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[insomnia]

why'd you say it at all then?

don't throw rocks and hide your hands now

say it with your chest

when sunbae says something that you spotted, you can't help but agree with him. otherwise i would've waited more :P

i can type out in a lot more detail what i thought was wolfy about you, but until im not sure, i probably won't

[Newcomb]

insomnia's post has me feeling things

idk how to describe it but basically this first happened after i read sunbae's post about newcomb and knights and i started formulating a weird kind of net of associations around cobalt/knights/sheep and realizing that if i'm wrong on sheep then he's probably town and one of the other two is more likely to have a wolf and like even though i lean on it being sheep i don't think the other worlds are that unlikely so they're kinda just existing in my mind as alternate options

this ties into insomnia's post cuz it's like. suggesting the alternate reality to the one i think is most likely. but i still townread it. it feels like he's having reasonable thoughts on those posts but i just disagree on which is the most likely world, but not enough for me to care about the fact we disagree. cuz, i mean y'all probably won't believe me but in my catch up post i originally had the same thought about how c0balt may have inadvertently been TMI'ing stett by accusing sheep of doing that because while i agree with the sheep sus that being the reason feels like more of a wolf accusation. soz this sounds hella hedgy but the point i want to convey is that i townread insomnia's post even though i had different takeaways cuz i can kinda see those options if i'm wrong, so having those thoughts is just as easily town indicative

the part about dya was super towny regardless

this post was so bad but im sending it anyway lmao

also hi IH :3

good lord

Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.

I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.

Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it

again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.

[Jan]

so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.

This might be the way

Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.

I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.

My life is pain and misery.

(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)

[ladd]

I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.

During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.

Villagery post


I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict

Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager


Jan seems like his obvious villager self

[ColonelLubriderm]

Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.

I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.

My life is pain and misery.

(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)

archmage ice nova is the way

[Newcomb]

Oh yeah this is town thought I will fight anyone who disagrees.

is sheep actually the most contentious overall read ITT right now?

that is interesting not in italics

[Newcomb]

Villagery post


I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict

Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager


Jan seems like his obvious villager self

I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute

shot?

[Wisdom]

Gods I vibe with Newcomb so hard I need someone to call out unreadable walls in every game!

[dyachei]

i think jan is just town. he's vibing this game, feels like

he also hasnt posted a bunch of gifs yet

[ladd]

I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute

shot?

i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring




but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep

[Newcomb]

i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring




but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep

knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.

Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do

[ladd]

(to be clear i am not convinced syn is a wolf as of this post)


i villa read sunbae/colonel(bop)/newcomb/jan/stetter pretty confidently


then i have a bunch of people who i have no strong reads on (some i admit i have just skimmed over their posts and will read them later)


then sheep/knights imo has 1 exactly 1 wolf

while i get why rask villa reads syn, i thought this post:

everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep

not to be confused with sheep

was out of character for their villa self, but I am not sure how serious it is


this benneh post:

i agree, but i think i can explain it, ymmv. i think it was cause it was an odd segue onto a topic that was somewhat ... irrelevant anyway? like the idea that it was something of inherent value that sheep/knights didn't pick up on and point out is the wolfy part to me, because why did they have to think that was the case? what value or interest is gleaned from either of those players just taking stett's post as off the cuff. it seemed like a bunch of casual shade thrown onto ppl for making gut reads/leans which is the wolfy part to me

my only guess was the timing of stett's post could have made wisdom think this, but reading it in 'real-time' that wasn't something that occurred to me cause it was a pretty ~whatever post beyond being tonally towny and i didnt think much of anyone else reading into that post either

reminded me of some benneh posts from last game here (where he was a wolf). I cba to double check cause it's d1 and my interest in lunching him today is extremely limited but thats the vibe i got




i'd bet ~everything vanta gets killed by village regardless of alignment

[ladd]

knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.

Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do

yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion

benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol

idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of

[Newcomb]

I must have genuinely read exactly the wrong newcomb games in the past if that is true. I found them all very inspiring from d1 on. (At least in theory, in practice I still remained myself after consuming them for some reason).

I've been rolling that parenthetical around in my head for at least one actual minute and yeah i've got nothing

if only to satisfy my morbid curiosity - explain?

[didistetter]

And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.

@Jan see, the problem for me is i kinda associate that more with his townplay than wolfplay, which means the early eagerness here kinda feels in line with what i'd expect from w!balt

#160 just feels hedgey to me, but intentionally so. i kinda doubt thats a post either v!cobalt or w!cobalt would anticipate getting heat for, so idrk if i buy your analysis, but. i'll keep it in mind, ty

[didistetter]

yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion

benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol

idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of

:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh

[didistetter]

why gemma? I vaguely agree with the other 2.on the same line.

For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great but meant nothing to me.
It is the minimum hurdle of competence as either alignment.

@Jan gemma has the vibes of a badger that got woken up by birds at 3am and is now drinking tea to cope.


translation: they have a kinda bruskness and "im too cool for this" attitude, which like, *can* be a way for maf to slank and blend, but i typically associate with villies. i also vibe with their lil micro comments like:
#138, #266, and how they've used basic "why" pokes.

this might seem a bit odd of a q, but: if you had to hypothetically assign one person in thread The Hermit card, who would you reckon best fits the bill?

[didistetter]

. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.

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elucidate me? your TL in the first place felt like sheeping thread, so which posts made you come to your own conclusion? @Wisdom

[ladd]

:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh

i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day

it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao

[dyachei]

yeah pretty sure stett just town. it's good because I like working with stett.

it's bad because these reads aren't really hot takes

v
Jan
Stett

[didistetter]

@C0balt weird q but:

would you say PL at all influenced your approach to sod? if not, what was your general mindset going into your thread entry?

[didistetter]

i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day

it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao

sad. im trying to build an army of obvitown boomer meatshields to ensure i get to endgame
you're obvitown enough without voting tho so, still works :P

[Newcomb]

Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.

I'm kinda squinting at this in a vaguely TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW way.

Like the flow as I understand it is - wisdom had an expectation on rask for "some reason" that they'd be more high energy. Also, he knew Rask didn't want to rand wolf. So the thought is, if he did rand wolf he'd counteract that perception by going harder.

Just having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around the actual thought process here. If Rask had come in high energy would that also be a townread? If so, what is the utility of the read at all? Didn't rask's first post have something about them being on vacation? That point doesn't get consideration when it directly relates to thread presence / energy?

Also the counter is super blatant - someone who really didn't want to rand wolf and then is lower energy, like idk maybe they're actually just a wolf??

Also I'm not sure I even agree rask has been low energy, especially grading on a curve

Yeah I think i'm gonnn need to see some tapdancing or something here