Tarot Mafia

[theknightsofneeee]

Okay unironically Cobalt spot-responding mostly to comments about them is rand!wolf for em

Not sure that I agree about this characterization of cobalts play this game

But I agree with the underlying read on cobalt

So I’ll reread cobalt and double check my read there

[EnderWiggin]

Not sure that I agree about this characterization of cobalts play this game

But I agree with the underlying read on cobalt

So I’ll reread cobalt and double check my read there

I'd appreciate it. Cobalt is a sleeper sus of mine. Sleeper because I keep getting distracted by other susses.

[theknightsofneeee]

Okay. You know what. If you're gonna be around for a bit I'll engage in you in good faith.

Ladd you said was most sus of people pushing you.
Jan is the one you are pushing rn and have sussed on.

Are those the top two wolfreads you have rn?

I’ve softened a bit on Ladd because he feels like he is being genuinely solvey, I’ve liked some reads he has brought up, and he seemed surprised that dya and I both read him as trying to bury me, which makes me feel like he has less agenda

I think Jan is my top wolf, I would probably vote Gemma, and outside of those two it gets harder

[ColonelLubriderm]

last night when maple was saying how they had more PR reads than alignment reads, and sheep replied "am i that obvious"; I did not read that as a joke. I truly believe that sheep was saying that they are actually a PR.

I dont want sheep to hard claim, i dont want any more info about this, and in fact this will be the last post I will talk about sheep in any way.

I would ask that everyone join me in this endeavor and thank this post. In doing that, enter into a tacit agreement that, if we fail to kill wolves by day 3 or we reach lylo+2, we then grill sheep about this claim and if they bring nothing to the table we yeet them into oblivion. This is the price you pay for leveraging a power role for clearance.

Yours in werewolf,
-bopolis

[Gemma]

I still find the whole ordeal with vanta artificial and calling them newbtown after they made like 2 posts borders on leveraging tmi to get a result out of their vote

that was a comment about their meta, not their play this game

[EnderWiggin]

Well formatting just lost all my multi quotes for my Jan iso RIP.

Just imagine a bunch of amazing supporting quotes thanks.




Just reread Jan’s iso

First 10 posts or so are just shitposting with the flavor of the game (for most would be NAI, but Jan is >rand village when he is shitposting IME)

But important caveat is there are a ton of people Jan knows pretty well in the game, which makes him faking shitposting easier.

Almost completely devoid of content until 15 posts or so in, says cobalt is unlikely to be a wolf but we should tickle them later for a post I think is pretty villagery for cobalt.

Questions a villa read on Gemma by stett

And then just drops a massive read list on the thread with almost no explanation for reads.

Classic wolf formula, and his tone being decent is the only thing that really gives me doubt on my wolf read here.

(On second thought, I think there is a decent chance if he was a wolf he would have pushed me earlier instead of just leaving me in null)



Not much to villa read, can people who are villa reading Jan please explain?

First I'll explain my townread of Jan.

I like his early posting. It was that shitposty vibe I consider to be more Jan!town than Jan!wolf. Their thought about the Cobalt post felt like someone actually asking if Cobalt would make that post as wolf (Even if I didn't agree with him.)

And add to that, his defense of me feels more like a defense of a town on a townread, where they're questioning and discussing the reads on me.

But I will give you that I reread his ISO and I did see the "Small read/small read/wall with not much explanation". Which is a ~traditionally wolfy posting pattern.

I did like his questioning of Newcomb's take. (I feel wolves would be more inclined to leave that to lie, especially since Jan was included in that list.)

Summary is:
I will agree the early pattern is there on a level 1 view.

I could be viewing them with rose-tints because of their active defense of me. I definitely can be blindspotted like that, but despite the level 1 pattern you descibe being there the smaller notes (Newcomb read, Cobalt thought, his defense on me, his comment about your tunnel "making sense for you") all make me think more of his villa play and I still don't think I'd vote there.

[EnderWiggin]

last night when maple was saying how they had more PR reads than alignment reads, and sheep replied "am i that obvious"; I did not read that as a joke. I truly believe that sheep was saying that they are actually a PR.

I dont want sheep to hard claim, i dont want any more info about this, and in fact this will be the last post I will talk about sheep in any way.

I would ask that everyone join me in this endeavor and thank this post. In doing that, enter into a tacit agreement that, if we fail to kill wolves by day 3 or we reach lylo+2, we then grill sheep about this claim and if they bring nothing to the table we yeet them into oblivion. This is the price you pay for leveraging a power role for clearance.

Yours in werewolf,
-bopolis

Or you could just accept Sheep as your lord and saviour and move on instead of focusing on pr reads and softs.

It's easy, and you get to relax in the wool of the faith with us.

[Gemma]

I’ve softened a bit on Ladd because he feels like he is being genuinely solvey, I’ve liked some reads he has brought up, and he seemed surprised that dya and I both read him as trying to bury me, which makes me feel like he has less agenda

I think Jan is my top wolf, I would probably vote Gemma, and outside of those two it gets harder

why would you vote me

that's what she said

[EnderWiggin]

My current preferences for votes, btw, are:

The duo of old susses:
Knights
Cobalt

The OMGUS duo:
Sunbae
Benneh

The other two who I haven't explained and idk if I want to atm:
Arctic
Colonel Bop

[EnderWiggin]

Maybe Gemma but I'd have to think about that.

I honestly have glazed over most of Gemma's posts and idk if that's good or bad.

[Gemma]

First I'll explain my townread of Jan.

I like his early posting. It was that shitposty vibe I consider to be more Jan!town than Jan!wolf. Their thought about the Cobalt post felt like someone actually asking if Cobalt would make that post as wolf (Even if I didn't agree with him.)

And add to that, his defense of me feels more like a defense of a town on a townread, where they're questioning and discussing the reads on me.

But I will give you that I reread his ISO and I did see the "Small read/small read/wall with not much explanation". Which is a ~traditionally wolfy posting pattern.

I did like his questioning of Newcomb's take. (I feel wolves would be more inclined to leave that to lie, especially since Jan was included in that list.)

Summary is:
I will agree the early pattern is there on a level 1 view.

I could be viewing them with rose-tints because of their active defense of me. I definitely can be blindspotted like that, but despite the level 1 pattern you descibe being there the smaller notes (Newcomb read, Cobalt thought, his defense on me, his comment about your tunnel "making sense for you") all make me think more of his villa play and I still don't think I'd vote there.

villager

[Gemma]

Vote: knightsofnee

might be back for eod unless i forget

[EnderWiggin]

I do need to head off to sleep. Idk if I'll be around for EOD.

Things I wanna see from Knights:
Their Cobalt thoughts more in depth, especially if they're revisiting it.

I did a reread of Gemma and either I'm too tired or I just glaze over half of her posts. I could vote there but it honestly is such a shrug for me. I think if Knights comes back and I think in the morning I was wrong I'd be more inclined to go like... Cobalt.

[ColonelLubriderm]

Vote: Wisdom


I don't believe they locked jan town based on their first post

[Jan]

With benneh busy today I will do the honors and post a pic of our orange cat to calm the masses.

Your are welcome.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Fresh picture. Taken within the hour.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Jan]

Vote: Wisdom


I don't believe they locked jan town based on their first post

It was the best first post in the game.

Be jealous.

[ColonelLubriderm]

Vote: Wisdom


I don't believe they locked jan town based on their first post

I was going through the enderwiggins/gemma and someother isos to make sense of whats going on and it bored the shit out of me. Sometime doing that i saw a wisdom post and remembered them being called town by someone and decided to jump in and see what I thought.

I was reading through it and came across them calling jan town based on his opening being semi-aggressive.

Jan starting with a semi-aggressive thread relevant post is the first town AI thing I've seen this game, temptedto just lock him.

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http://https://open.spotify.com/trac...Q-6vsRUvAOFuGg

One of the last bangers added to my playlist. @Syn although I'm guessing you're already familiar with it!

i pulled jan's opening

Howdy bro! Tell me what’s new going on!

I found a wonderful site with 120 cool and creative ways to say hello and I am going to use them all (or die trying).
This one made me feel a bit like Steve Buscemi which is how I felt about Newcombs last post for some reason. I was ~fine with his other posts but that one gave me fellow kids vibes.

The syn villa reads are weird. Syn will be readable and there is no reason to force it this early.

Wisdom posting "GOOD MORNING!" (in caps lock) without following up is noted.

I just realized that I could instead make tarot readings.

Sunbae is death.
Cobalt is the hanged man
Stett is empress.
Ben and Bop are lovers
Newcomb is the tower
Ladd can be hierophant

I do not think i would label this as aggressive in any way. I don't think this post alone would or should give someone an indication of Jan's alignment.

What, why did the site delete my reads? Can't stuff be put inside (smaller than) and (bigger than) symbols?

Immediate PoE 3-5 wolves (unordered):
Arctic
Bop
Dya
Gemma
Knights
Maple
Monte
Sunbae
Vanta

Least confident town reads (Unordered):
Benneh
C0balt
Insomnia
Sheep
Stett
Syn

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I won't be able to be here 3 hours before EoD ever, but today I'm going to a boardgame event as well, just a fyi!

Also think his 9 person PoE is a bit wild and instead of 3-5 wolves i think it probably should be more accurately 2-4 but thats really just a quibble. The only really spicy name in his PoE is sunbae but then he later said they were just town. It just seems like an easy PoE to make and one where i wouldn't be confident that it would actually solve the game.


Wisdom is vibing and hanging out but anything they have said or done that I consider to be relevant to solving the game just falls flat for me and is a position id rather push than any of the other wagons at this point

[didistetter]

Vote: ladd

This is a semi serious FoS, but I acknowledge would probs be imprudent to vote D1 ever

@ladd you gave Gemma heat for a consensusy looking list, but your votes and susses have been knights, sheep, ender, and Gemma.

Like.

Anything is possible but that’s the most LHF not stirring shit up group of all time.
I think sheep’s been actively towny, and I acknowledge your back and forth with him and vote swap, but I frankly don’t get how you pushed the sus so long in the first place.

Feels like you kinda didn’t care until you were confronted with live interactions?

I wanna go back through knights with newcomb’s #687 in mind, cause I remember asking knights a q after picking up on something similar to the “voxx” special, but some of the other points didn’t fully feel right. Newcomb’s push on knights def feels most genuine of the votes oh him tho—rest felt kinda floaty

@Vanta Black I close read your champs game this year

[Jan]

I am frozen right now.

I dislike most pushes but have no real place to go myself.

The fact that others are exploring new avenues right now makes me feel slightly better about it.
Not knowing where I want to go and staring at the player list with more questions than answers is just not helpful.

[ladd]

Vote: ladd

This is a semi serious FoS, but I acknowledge would probs be imprudent to vote D1 ever

@ladd you gave Gemma heat for a consensusy looking list, but your votes and susses have been knights, sheep, ender, and Gemma.

Like.

Anything is possible but that’s the most LHF not stirring shit up group of all time.
I think sheep’s been actively towny, and I acknowledge your back and forth with him and vote swap, but I frankly don’t get how you pushed the sus so long in the first place.

Feels like you kinda didn’t care until you were confronted with live interactions?

I wanna go back through knights with newcomb’s #687 in mind, cause I remember asking knights a q after picking up on something similar to the “voxx” special, but some of the other points didn’t fully feel right. Newcomb’s push on knights def feels most genuine of the votes oh him tho—rest felt kinda floaty

@Vanta Black I close read your champs game this year

For clarity i never suspected ender, in fact gth id say he is a villager rn


Id say the people i have suspctrd at points so far have been like gemma/knights/sheep/benneh/cobalt


Idt people suspcted gemma before i said so but ymmv


Also for gemma-my bad i misunderstood on vanta. Still feel the same way tho

[ladd]

Also think his 9 person PoE is a bit wild and instead of 3-5 wolves i think it probably should be more accurately 2-4 but thats really just a quibble. The only really spicy name in his PoE is sunbae but then he later said they were just town. It just seems like an easy PoE to make and one where i wouldn't be confident that it would actually solve the game

This seems villagery, not wolfy to me

I think wisdom def has a ton of spicy names in their poe

Fwiw meta wise they tend to open with off the wall reads based on very little ime

I dont follow how thats an easy poe to make?

[didistetter]

backreading rn but:

Tarot Game: Current Votecount

Votes	Target	Voters
4	Theknightsofneeee	EnderWiggen, Raskolnikov, Newcomb, Gemma
3	Gemma	Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom
2	Enderwiggen	nebjiamn, dyachei
1	Dyachei	Insomnia
1	Sheepsaysmeep	Syn
1	Jan	Theknightsofneeee
1	Wisdom	ColonelLubriderm
1	ladd	didistetter
1	ColonelLubriderm	Vanta Black
1	Newcomb	Grr
6	Not voting	Arctic, Sunbae, Jan, Maple, Montmorency, C0balt

assuming montmorency is a lost cause.

@Arctic @Sunbae @Maple @Jan @C0balt where y'alls heads at friends? :3

im temp off cobalt, but frankly i still want that vote. it felt like he was heavily lurking thread SoD but mostly only engaged when he was the topic of convo. Despite being more free now b/c he finished his witches endgame he mentioned, he's been less present, and there hasn't been any concrete momentum from his slot. I'm confused why no one seems to care much about his slot when top wagons are knights, gemma, ender, and i frankly wonder if its the dif of UTR maf vs UTR/awk town

[Jan]

backreading rn but:

Tarot Game: Current Votecount

Votes	Target	Voters
4	Theknightsofneeee	EnderWiggen, Raskolnikov, Newcomb, Gemma
3	Gemma	Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom
2	Enderwiggen	nebjiamn, dyachei
1	Dyachei	Insomnia
1	Sheepsaysmeep	Syn
1	Jan	Theknightsofneeee
1	Wisdom	ColonelLubriderm
1	ladd	didistetter
1	ColonelLubriderm	Vanta Black
1	Newcomb	Grr
6	Not voting	Arctic, Sunbae, Jan, Maple, Montmorency, C0balt

assuming montmorency is a lost cause.

@Arctic @Sunbae @Maple @Jan @C0balt where y'alls heads at friends? :3

im temp off cobalt, but frankly i still want that vote. it felt like he was heavily lurking thread SoD but mostly only engaged when he was the topic of convo. Despite being more free now b/c he finished his witches endgame he mentioned, he's been less present, and there hasn't been any concrete momentum from his slot. I'm confused why no one seems to care much about his slot when top wagons are knights, gemma, ender, and i frankly wonder if its the dif of UTR maf vs UTR/awk town

cobalt posted about stuff going on which kind of bought him a day in my book.
That is all that is too it (I think).

[grr]

This seems villagery, not wolfy to me

I think wisdom def has a ton of spicy names in their poe

Fwiw meta wise they tend to open with off the wall reads based on very little ime

I dont follow how thats an easy poe to make?

this is accurate. wisdom makes snapreads on entries that are not based on much and hence can also be wrong here and then. but it is not wolf-ai for her.

im kinda here but i dont know what to say or what to think. does anyone want me to do a backflip or something?

[grr]

cobalt posted about stuff going on which kind of bought him a day in my book.
That is all that is too it (I think).

he just played a stunning wolf game on mafiauniverse, where he powerwolfed the shit out of village while protecting both of his wolfbuddies who were extremely LHF and still being towncored for it, so yea i assume he would be still distracted emotionally by that. (i didnt read his posts in this game)

[ColonelLubriderm]

This seems villagery, not wolfy to me

I think wisdom def has a ton of spicy names in their poe

Fwiw meta wise they tend to open with off the wall reads based on very little ime

I dont follow how thats an easy poe to make?

who is spicy?

the zero poster?

the shit posters me/maple?

dya/knights/gemma who have all been called wolfy throughout the phase?

vanta?

arctic might be the spiciest one and i dont think its that spicy

and he went bak on sunbae so that doesnt count

[didistetter]

For clarity i never suspected ender, in fact gth id say he is a villager rn


Id say the people i have suspctrd at points so far have been like gemma/knights/sheep/benneh/cobalt


Idt people suspcted gemma before i said so but ymmv


Also for gemma-my bad i misunderstood on vanta. Still feel the same way tho

you said you thought if sheep was a wolf ender was too #682

felt like sus to me, but idk maybe you tr both now.

where would you say you've displayed sus on benneh or cobalt? closest i can find is you saying you liked the evolution of jan's read on cobalt (which was townreading him in response to me than randomly sticking him on "slums" tier in #403 ???) and you saying benneh's post on wisdom reminded you of some post from a wolf game maybe but you didnt wanna check.

@ladd

[Jan]

I have seen knights as villager tunnel villagers to the ground while I sat on the sidelines (as villager) calling him washed. (the knee v boob drama of 2024)

Him tunneling me now fits the mold in a lot of ways. His new persona seems to be dude stuck in a tunnel.

My main problem with knights is that his second top wolf is gemma who is his counterwagon.
That choice feels like a cop-out and not like an actual wolfread.

[didistetter]

@grr i tr you tbh but voting parking newcomb all day kinda feels like a copout imma be so fr

do you still sus him? where's your head at rn?

[Jan]

you said you thought if sheep was a wolf ender was too #682

felt like sus to me, but idk maybe you tr both now.

where would you say you've displayed sus on benneh or cobalt? closest i can find is you saying you liked the evolution of jan's read on cobalt (which was townreading him in response to me than randomly sticking him on "slums" tier in #403 ???) and you saying benneh's post on wisdom reminded you of some post from a wolf game maybe but you didnt wanna check.

@ladd

I lowered my cobalt read based people telling me I am an idiot.
No man is an island.