Tarot Mafia

[didistetter]

I lowered my cobalt read based people telling me I am an idiot.
No man is an island.

that's fine. but that aint ladd displaying any form of sus on cobalt prior to the poe he mentioned :P

[grr]

@grr i tr you tbh but voting parking newcomb all day kinda feels like a copout imma be so fr

do you still sus him? where's your head at rn?

i sus that people didnt think he would be the most funny wagon d1 becuz in my mind that's somehow how i'd see a village-newcomb game would pan out a lot of the time, but literally everyone but me shied away from voting him so either he's a wolf or this game is going is really strange. he didnt really do anything to make me think he's a villa and people just say wow he's obvious now lol. what am i supposed to see? if i was forced to v-read him I'd say its probably becuz he'd solve more as a wolf or something, which ironically is the opposite of what people are telling me.

[didistetter]

@Syn curious where you're head is at rn

you've been vote parked on sheep for roughly 500 posts

can you talk more about your sus there? how much has it changed off more recent posting?

[ladd]

who is spicy?

the zero poster?

the shit posters me/maple?

dya/knights/gemma who have all been called wolfy throughout the phase?

vanta?

arctic might be the spiciest one and i dont think its that spicy

and he went bak on sunbae so that doesnt count

You/dya/artic/sunbae(at the time) all seem fairly not consensus to me

Seems like a perfectly reasonable poe for a villager to have imo?

I dont really follow the problem with it but maybr i am missing something


@stett i explicitely said ender was null and my only read was associative with sheep

You can find me saying that i am interested in cobalt in my iso. I cba to quote it nor do i care to tbh

[grr]

If you want me to I can to give a take on every wagon if that helps. I'll reread their posts. (I actually appreciate people telling me to like, do something that's the main reason i make my presence known becuz I kinda have time so I can TRY).

[didistetter]

i sus that people didnt think he would be the most funny wagon d1 becuz in my mind that's somehow how i'd see a village-newcomb game would pan out a lot of the time, but literally everyone but me shied away from voting him so either he's a wolf or this game is going is really strange. he didnt really do anything to make me think he's a villa and people just say wow he's obvious now lol. what am i supposed to see? if i was forced to v-read him I'd say its probably becuz he'd solve more as a wolf or something, which ironically is the opposite of what people are telling me.

imma be so fr: wagon newcomb d1 is funny from villy perspective, but i doubt maf wanna deal with being on a d1 newcomb town flip if he's v, so idk i feel like it would be the opposite?

avoid his slot or pocket him and just get him tf out with the n1k

why do you think people would be more likely to shy away from voting w!newcomb rather than v!newcomb?

[ladd]

I am frozen right now.

I dislike most pushes but have no real place to go myself.

The fact that others are exploring new avenues right now makes me feel slightly better about it.
Not knowing where I want to go and staring at the player list with more questions than answers is just not helpful.

What do you dislike about gemma push?

[didistetter]

the more interesting world is sheep/knights v/v and ladd is giga pocketing me btw

just putting it out there that that's a thought that's been rolling around back there.

ladd's said a truly remarkable number of things i've agreed with this game, including stuff that can't possibly have anything to do with alignment like the d1 vote stickiness thing, which I almost made a post about because i've noticed literally the exact same thing in my game as a kind of unconscious evolution of how people started reacting to me.

I don't say this to have any meaningful moving the needle on anything in the game right now or potentially ever, just to like, give myself a little potential postgame face-saving

oh lol

i promise i hadnt seen this yet. i just tr sheeps, knights, and gemma to an extent so thread direction doesnt sit right w/ me

[Maple]

The Lobster?

What did you think, did you like it?

This is important. I might have to change my vote.

It's good, I liked it's use of music for tension

[grr]

ok, first:

Gemma: played one game with them. feels unfazed and genuine to me. gth villager. vibe with this post a lot P#773 which is sole reason enough for me to shield them with my life today even when its nai. I think they have been wolfreading insomnia for something that isnt actually wolfy for him though. worst part is i dont get why they have been towning me cuz in that one game i played with them I played VERY different (deathtunneled 2/3 wolves d1 lol) so i'm not sure if they just forgot or something because genuinely people just love to compare me to my peak games so i kinda expected them to wolfread me. ig i dont really care too much still think its a >rand villagery iso

[dyachei]

ladd, why is ender town to you?

[grr]

the way isos work here makes me wanna selfvote and go play chess or something. so i go to advance thread search, enter the user name, click the search button, and then i still have to click every single post if i want to see the quotes is this real life?

[didistetter]

alright, i tried re-reading but i really can't be bothered. d1 is not my strong suit and especially not in these types of playerlists where im sure i won't have much of an influence on d1 anyway and it's better to let things flow as it is

i will say the reads that i feel fine with for now are

v
stett
grr

probably v
raskolnikov
maple

yolo v
knightsofneeee

the way i read the game rn in terms of wolfreads is prob the worst in terms of playing d1. kinda lost interest because of that. the lunch will probably be some low poster cuz we don't want to lunch the people putting in effort this early and because of this being a COVETED get together of players, so i'll try harder d2. i might come back for EoD if im awake

@insomnia can you talk to me bout ur v read on maple pls? ive been reading through them and sunbae's tr on them, and its something im struggling to see, so curious where your manti read is from

[didistetter]

the way isos work here makes me wanna selfvote and go play chess or something. so i go to advance thread search, enter the user name, click the search button, and then i still have to click every single post if i want to see the quotes is this real life?

you can see 100 most recent by going to thread, clicking replies, clicking on name. but yeah its still preview only

its def made me have to readjust my gameplay so far cause my god am i normally iso reliant

[Maple]

Newcomb knows how to pocket me, I'm cooked

[grr]

knights: just played mashes with him and never paid attention to him in those either. ngl i kinda scumread them for being like, an exemplary villager to start off with reasoned reads and putting a readslist out early etc. which is funny if they are a villager cuz i literally scumread them for doing the right thing. again P#305 is imo a villagery reaction. just surprise. no try to immediately position himself or something, just feels like an honest to god reaction. re-eval on dya also feels genuine. villager imo.

[didistetter]

Is this read based on meta?

Cobalt is a slot I am interested in (prolly not today since they gave cover and i am ok with respecting that for 1 day)

mm.

idk if id consider this a meaningful sus, but ack the post @ ladd

[Maple]

Vote: Gemma

Wagons

[insomnia]

i sus that people didnt think he would be the most funny wagon d1 becuz in my mind that's somehow how i'd see a village-newcomb game would pan out a lot of the time, but literally everyone but me shied away from voting him so either he's a wolf or this game is going is really strange. he didnt really do anything to make me think he's a villa and people just say wow he's obvious now lol. what am i supposed to see? if i was forced to v-read him I'd say its probably becuz he'd solve more as a wolf or something, which ironically is the opposite of what people are telling me.

he's definitely not obvious. my 2 cents

i did say earlier i thought 1 in ladd / newcomb and that ladd would be more likely and that newcomb got "better", but i don't villa read him

[Maple]

@Sunbae would you perhaps say that you've over-repped your read on me to some extent? I understand that you're taking the counterpoints to heart and are reevaluating, but it just feels to me that you're presenting it as a relatively strong read when in reality it's more of a d1 blind shot.

[Newcomb]

meant to quote this one so grab my post above this as well

I have a town read on neb because he hasn't really being doing anything that looks like he is positioning himself for the future. He's not making any strong wolf reads to look good later, he's not pocketing people, he's not making sure he's noticed and getting credit for correct statements or preparing anything negative to bring on someone for their incorrect statement. Just kind of sitting here doing his own thing and whenever I catch wolf neb it's because I can see him doing that type of thing you know?

i'm not sure i've actually played with or seen a wolf benneh game so I'll have to take your word for it

I will say that - kind of like the manti thing - while I agree with the framework of the read I'm not sure I can buy into the application here. At least for me, those kinds of forward-thinking wolf moves are extremely difficult to correctly sus out on D1 with no information. They're usually a little more obvious in retrospect with some flips.

[insomnia]

@insomnia can you talk to me bout ur v read on maple pls? ive been reading through them and sunbae's tr on them, and its something im struggling to see, so curious where your manti read is from

sure

i didn't really wanna villa read him at first cuz i thought he's NAI, but i went through a re-read and i guess the best way to put it is that he feels genuine when making reads. i've went head to head with him in one of his wolf game and he legit did... nothing. in here it feels like he's having fun while making reads in a really villagery way that most wolves would have problems doing

funnily enough, i get the feel he's more villagery by doing less as opposed to other names who are doing more

the 6-word post thing is a thing most of us got stuck on, i didn't really care about it at first but then i re-read and i bought it. just reading how he solves he seems like a villa, don't really know if that helps. just a vibe thing

also, the way he got hung up on grr read fine to me. naturally i think he'd be forced to do more as a wolf in this PL as opposed to the one he wolfed in with me, so it's not like im giving him credit just for that, but i still think he's vibing more genuine than most

regardless i'd take newcomb / sunbae's word for it on a d1 and assume they either have him nailed or TMI'd, one of the two.

[insomnia]

even their posts on this page look genuine to me, lol

[insomnia]

benneh not having a ladd read #noted

[Newcomb]

i sus that people didnt think he would be the most funny wagon d1 becuz in my mind that's somehow how i'd see a village-newcomb game would pan out a lot of the time, but literally everyone but me shied away from voting him so either he's a wolf or this game is going is really strange. he didnt really do anything to make me think he's a villa and people just say wow he's obvious now lol. what am i supposed to see? if i was forced to v-read him I'd say its probably becuz he'd solve more as a wolf or something, which ironically is the opposite of what people are telling me.

yeeeeah i'd take this one back to the drawing board my friend

especially that second bolded should get a laugh from anyone who actually has seen my wolf game

I feel like you're using some offbrand meta and leaning on it awful hard for someone who at least to my recollection I've never played with

I actually find the angle kinda villagery in an offbeat way - like this really really doesn't feel like someone who has a team and my name has come up in wolfchat

[Maple]

Dist, I'm 100% down for some shenanigans and to go and stir things up by voting with you, but I have a point that's sticking.

When you talked about utr wolves vs utr awk villa who specifically do you mean? Ladd/Cobalt vs knights Gemma sheep?

And again, knights is knights. If he rands vt in this sort of lobby it's *very* easy for him to just drop dead d1. And with that I'm of course all here to shake things up. So, *how* do we shake things up?

[Jan]

What do you dislike about gemma push?

Nothing.

The last 2 games (on here) people wanted my read on gemma because they had trouble getting a grip on her.

The playerbase is not all that different but nobody has asked me till now.
I don't think my gemma read is good. I was wrong the last time around.
Mostly because she told me she was keen to rand wolf and then played a fairly low-effort/underwhelming wolf game.

I dislike knights making gemma his 2nd best wolf pick because it is the counterwagon and feels easy.

I have a very different vote in the back of my head but I just got back and want to get up to date and doublecheck a post before I actually use my god given power.

[Jan]

Vote: Sunbae

[grr]

enderwiggin: have very little experience with him but I think he got sussed for bad reasons. kinda for being overexplanatory or something but to me it felt like his comments were just, genuinely trying to provide some context. which doesnt make it town but also not wolf. they are also doing it so consistently i think its probs just the way they talk. ISO feels okay. yeah I mean I dont really know how else to put this ig i just don't see why they'd be wolfread so probably a villager based on seeming =rand. also seems unfazed in general.

so like.

knights = struggling villager >> enderwiggin seems fine many words > gemma (seems fine but less words so a bit less confidence than ender (lol))

gut feeling is all villas wagoned and wouldnt be surprised if the wolves are in the people no one is gonna yeet d1 anyway (maybe sunbae idk) so nya.

[grr]

Vote: Sunbae

oh lol. convenient

Vote: Sunbae