Tarot Mafia

[insomnia]

rask viable wagon

syn viable wagon

he says rask should die first for his read on syn. that's a read that both spews rask villager and syn wolf if jan is a wolf. do you agree with this premise?

and all im saying is that a wolf would recognize the really poor positioning and it'd be a tough progression to pull off with TMI

sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

[Dolby]

sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

how do you feel that only three people followed Jan on it and all of them did it pretty noncomittally (bop, Monty, and Maple)?

I think that that makes one of Jan/Rask more likely to be wolfing

[grr]

11. grr people say they are pure and villagery. Still didn't like their votes on Newcomb and me and the reasoning behind them (Newcomb not having a solve 10 hours in and me reading him in good faith in their clash with Maple lol. Like he posted a lot of stuff but he chooses this reason to cast his final vote... riiighht). Didn't like most of their lamist posts

@didistetter

Inclined to change my mind on Raskol, probs not gonna shield/care about them anymore.

Like I get that you didnt like the read I outed on you it would probably annoy me too and it might even annoy me so much I vote or kill them for it (god knows Nanook has vigged me once for annoying him lmao, and so has Cobalt :D (damn im really annoying now that i think about it lmaoooo)), but the fact that you're not even considering that a take that looks surface level so annoying to you might actually come more likely from a villager becuz why wouldnt a wolf find a singular better reason to vote someone is somewhat starting to get unbelievable, becuz this is not your first mafia game.


By the way "this person is treating me in good faith so they are likely a wolf" is, in some variation (maybe not exactly like that idk don't wanna misrepresent them but Newcomb surely has made readslist where he said people who are to be the most reasonable about him and telling him how they are considering etc. are the most likely wolves, I can probably bring the receipts if anyone seriously questions this LOL), a read that I have seen a lot of veterans apply. it's also rand accurate btw. becuz hey, wolves like to look good. but hey im happy to have ladd tell me he never made a read like this before

I tend to not be as slick about it as others but like you dont get to treat me worse than other mafia players just because I am expressing my thoughts in a less palpatable manner when i am basically talking about the same things others do.

[grr]

dya i had as gut town all game, not because they were super towny but everything they said i was like "yeah town-dya would say this".

except that one post where i definitely had an out of body experience and i'm irked people still havent told me if its like, a normal take for them or anything because I genuinely don't know.

[Raskolnikov]

@grr i dont care about what Newcomb said about it. Put on my shoes for a second: I give Manti a try and attempt to follow up his process. I get what he is saying before you, think about it, conclude its NaI for both of you (re Maple the fact its what remains mostly, together with his 6 word posts about sheep is actually AI for me).

Then u proceed to wolfread me for it? Like wtf. So do what u want with it, but try charitabke if villa smh.

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

[ladd]

dya i had as gut town all game, not because they were super towny but everything they said i was like "yeah town-dya would say this".

except that one post where i definitely had an out of body experience and i'm irked people still havent told me if its like, a normal take for them or anything because I genuinely don't know.

I dont think its a weird post for dya to make

I am fairly confident they are a villager anyway

[Dolby]

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

This is such a narrow and ungenerous interpretation of my post. It's kinda sus

[ladd]

sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

I honestly dont really get why u feel so strongly about it

If all i read was eod, jan would look bad iyam

He defended syn and is clearly not spewed wolf so id say it worked


I just read eod again and what i find strange is how much jan suddenly cares once syn becomes a wagon, like he was pretty chill until the syn wagon and then he goes "ham"



@Wisdom why dolby so low? Why gemma?

[ladd]

Maybe i am out of the loop but i thought dolby catch up was fine - tho i dont get your jan read and why that jan post doesnt come from a villagrr. Can you elaborate on that?

Can people explain what they dislike?

[Jan]

@grr i dont care about what Newcomb said about it. Put on my shoes for a second: I give Manti a try and attempt to follow up his process. I get what he is saying before you, think about it, conclude its NaI for both of you (re Maple the fact its what remains mostly, together with his 6 word posts about sheep is actually AI for me).

Then u proceed to wolfread me for it? Like wtf. So do what u want with it, but try charitabke if villa smh.

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

I dislike that we already talked about us for quite a while and basically took a break for now to look at other people.

And the moment he gets some heat he directs the attention to us.

I don't believe in domes this early into the game(unless there is mech).
There is a world in which you are a wolf, but we are far away from a sure fire 1on1.

[Jan]

I honestly dont really get why u feel so strongly about it

If all i read was eod, jan would look bad iyam

He defended syn and is clearly not spewed wolf so id say it worked


I just read eod again and what i find strange is how much jan suddenly cares once syn becomes a wagon, like he was pretty chill until the syn wagon and then he goes "ham"



@Wisdom why dolby so low? Why gemma?

I was in bed, struggled to fall asleep and thought syn was cleared villager based on tasks take.

It is fine to kill a villager D1. It is not fine to kill a cleared player at any point.
I got out of bad realised it is not as clear and thought going for Rask who had a bad clear has more value.

I didn't even go ham tbh. If I wanted to get Rask killed there I directly appeal to newcomb or stett and sway one of the consensus villas to my side.
And I vote Rask in my initial post and don't wait for bop to vote first.

[Dolby]

Maybe i am out of the loop but i thought dolby catch up was fine - tho i dont get your jan read and why that jan post doesnt come from a villagrr. Can you elaborate on that?

Can people explain what they dislike?

I dislike that post because I don't think that Rask and Wisdom are likely Syn teammates, I think that it's a perspecitve that's kinda just ignoring the posting from Syn's direction. Wisdom for example I strongly doubt is a Syn teammate just because I feel that his posts directed against them just aren't posts he specifically makes ata teammate. I also think that it's a very exaggerated read on Syn's town vs wolf play. I dislike that he's using Rask as a shield for Syn, especially since Rask had some popularity as a wagon

I'm also disliking both of them characterizing my post as "wanting them to dome", it was a read on how votes went down at eod1 and is not solid, but it feels like a awful mischaracterization

[Dolby]

Actaully reading that again I don't think Jan read my post so that's a criticism towards Rask only

[grr]

@grr i dont care about what Newcomb said about it. Put on my shoes for a second: I give Manti a try and attempt to follow up his process. I get what he is saying before you, think about it, conclude its NaI for both of you (re Maple the fact its what remains mostly, together with his 6 word posts about sheep is actually AI for me).

Then u proceed to wolfread me for it? Like wtf. So do what u want with it, but try charitabke if villa smh.

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

I already said I understand you hate it, that part of it is not what I have an issue with. I am hard pressed to believe that you actually think it raises someones wolf equity. Tell me why. Why do I not find literally ANYTHING else to call wolfy that doesnt irk anyone? Like is that actually your read? that wolf is just being uncharitable to you because wolves are not nice and villagers are nice people or idk.

Do you think wolves just line up at your door and be mean to you so you can have them all nicely lined up? What?

Whatever do ur thing ig it doesnt really matter what I do or say others are gonna solve the game not me rofl.

[Jan]

I dislike that post because I don't think that Rask and Wisdom are likely Syn teammates, I think that it's a perspecitve that's kinda just ignoring the posting from Syn's direction. Wisdom for example I strongly doubt is a Syn teammate just because I feel that his posts directed against them just aren't posts he specifically makes ata teammate. I also think that it's a very exaggerated read on Syn's town vs wolf play. I dislike that he's using Rask as a shield for Syn, especially since Rask had some popularity as a wagon

I'm also disliking both of them characterizing my post as "wanting them to dome", it was a read on how votes went down at eod1 and is not solid, but it feels like a awful mischaracterization

And you think I villa read as slot that is historically dead in the water and try to defend him at Eid, while I am one of his constant wolfreads?

I bury the kid and mock him while he is forced to watch me from dvc.
I am a Teamplayer but if my partner shades me for nonsense reasons then I will not defend them and risk my ass in the process.

[Raskolnikov]

This is such a narrow and ungenerous interpretation of my post. It's kinda sus

Hmm no. I read it twice at least. U are affirmative the three of them were non commital and that makes one of us a wolf. I guess u may not wanna us to dome but in that case Id want more work from you i suppose. The finish line of ur train of thoughts pls Dolb

[Sunbae]

Im going to see deadpool and wolverine

Im pretty sure I'm gonna be able to just big vibe and shitpost this game while the titans of werewolf actually solve shit for me <3

Whatever do ur thing ig it doesnt really matter what I do or say others are gonna solve the game not me rofl.

yes come to the side of righteousness

[nebjiamn]

afternoon all

ive got a break from work so im gona catch up a bit on EOD/SOD and try to get into the game but feel free to ping me if you wana rt a bit

[Dolby]

Hmm no. I read it twice at least. U are affirmative the three of them were non commital and that makes one of us a wolf. I guess u may not wanna us to dome but in that case Id want more work from you i suppose. The finish line of ur train of thoughts pls Dolb

Think it means there's wolves in Maple/Monty(mainly Maple, I'm giving bop a pass) or you or Jan but the trouble with it is that I don't actually know how viable the wagons that weren't you and Syn are, which drastically impacts how I feel about that read. Jan could be a v and you a v and it just didn't attract attention for whatever (wolves wanted Gemma or something like that). That said, it's not something I'm that confident in, definetely not at dome level

[nebjiamn]

disagree gemma is very niceys

spew from syn seems kinda light but this is the only post that really stands out to me other than the one about newcomb. this just feels like a soft volley of tmi back against a read. ender's sus on gemma doesn't feel warranted enough to really push back on it in this way as w/w cause it feels too transparent imo. this reads more like "i have tmi they're town and ill say it to be right but go ahead and keep sus there" more than anything else

inb4: gemma reads as woof on their iso

[Jan]

Think it means there's wolves in Maple/Monty(mainly Maple, I'm giving bop a pass) or you or Jan but the trouble with it is that I don't actually know how viable the wagons that weren't you and Syn are, which drastically impacts how I feel about that read. Jan could be a v and you a v and it just didn't attract attention for whatever (wolves wanted Gemma or something like that). That said, it's not something I'm that confident in, definetely not at dome level

Plus if 1-2 wolves were not active at Eod or didn't think they could switch without outting then it barely even matters.

Really tough to read into without more clears or dead ppl.

[nebjiamn]

Mont eod of calling Syn wagon pure, saying doesnt want to vote Knights, voting Rask, then unvoting when its Rask/Syn wagons and being done with eod is villagery I think?

monty's eod read pretty uninformed and transprent to me for someone who joined in late and his meta. i don't have the best read on him (lmao) but i'd rock with him for a day or two just tonally

[Raskolnikov]

I already said I understand you hate it, that part of it is not what I have an issue with. I am hard pressed to believe that you actually think it raises someones wolf equity. Tell me why. Why do I not find literally ANYTHING else to call wolfy that doesnt irk anyone? Like is that actually your read? that wolf is just being uncharitable to you because wolves are not nice and villagers are nice people or idk.

Do you think wolves just line up at your door and be mean to you so you can have them all nicely lined up? What?

Whatever do ur thing ig it doesnt really matter what I do or say others are gonna solve the game not me rofl.

Whatever friendo. U dont wanna try.

Ill one last time. I dont care about u being nice or anything (frankly lol at ur post pal, hilarious bruh but ok, ill take it lmao). What is preventing me from tr u is like:

1. U posted a lot of thoughts on various slots
2. U choose this as a sticker.

From my pow its throwing D1. A lot of people think D1 is just banter and shitposting but its really not. From my pow villa!you just threw. So I am wondering why u did that as opposed to say, follow up on ur other reads?

Ill follow the crowd from the time being but the question is there.

[Wisdom]

I honestly dont really get why u feel so strongly about it

If all i read was eod, jan would look bad iyam

He defended syn and is clearly not spewed wolf so id say it worked


I just read eod again and what i find strange is how much jan suddenly cares once syn becomes a wagon, like he was pretty chill until the syn wagon and then he goes "ham"



@Wisdom why dolby so low? Why gemma?

Dolby is mostly a PoE slot right now.

Gemma isn't doing much with her time in thread and it doesn't seem like she have more thoughts than she's sharing if you know what I mean with that.

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But also a bit of vanity because I wanna see if I hit a wolf d1 and that'd probably clear me

[Wisdom]

Kinda feels like Dolby is TMIing me tho

[Dolby]

Wisdom I don't think this super strongly but I think your wolf leans are 0/3

Thoughts on that?

[Dolby]

Kinda feels like Dolby is TMIing me tho

my read on you is based entirely on the one time I wolfed with Syn and that I like some of your earlier posts

[grr]

yes come to the side of righteousness

I am not there by choice but because i cant do that much better tho. Idk In my mind everyone here is gonna have better reads than me when I fully try my best so that's just why I think that yaknow. like dolby is a goat, arctic is a goat, inso is a goat, ladd is a goat y'all goats man.

benneh kinda noob but we love him! <3

[Wisdom]

Wisdom I don't think this super strongly but I think your wolf leans are 0/3

Thoughts on that?

That I'm not super familiar with Gemma or Vanta but I still think they both have wolf equity (unlikely w/w tho). Are you familiar with them?

[ColonelLubriderm]

Maybe i am out of the loop but i thought dolby catch up was fine - tho i dont get your jan read and why that jan post doesnt come from a villagrr. Can you elaborate on that?

Can people explain what they dislike?

i saw it when it was live, i don't need a recap; and alot of the posts seem like that, just a recap