Tarot Mafia

[Sunbae]

after skimming and ponderin while enjoying my delicious wendys (ghost pepper saucy nugs and fries with a berry frosty for those interested) im pretty much at a similar place i was earlier. rask being v is nice, i was feeling better there after the mention of mixing me up with someone. think jan being a pr would make sense. not entirely sure on wisdom and enders but that feels like a problem for the future. just pick someone else in that bottom part of my list and pew pew

[Sunbae]

as for maple, idk gl figuring it out lmao

[nebjiamn]

after skimming and ponderin while enjoying my delicious wendys (ghost pepper saucy nugs and fries with a berry frosty for those interested) im pretty much at a similar place i was earlier. rask being v is nice, i was feeling better there after the mention of mixing me up with someone. think jan being a pr would make sense. not entirely sure on wisdom and enders but that feels like a problem for the future. just pick someone else in that bottom part of my list and pew pew

how spicy are those?

ill admit i was clowning on the whole 'saucy nuggs' thing before but then i tried them and they're pretty damn good

[Sunbae]

i did reread grr and took the ladd/insom notes into account and feel good there
reread gemma and feel whatever there but again, problem for a future day
knights still seemed towny to me

[Sunbae]

how spicy are those?

ill admit i was clowning on the whole 'saucy nuggs' thing before but then i tried them and they're pretty damn good

i was the same way
id call them white people spicy where its got a kick but its not like omg
quite good tho

[Sunbae]

personally still think dya and benneh are villagers so shrug

[Sunbae]

berry frosty is good too, tho think chocolate is still the king

[insomnia]

i could vote maple

today i feel like he's only been stuck on the inversed / role thing

there's no way all of our claims are legit btw, right?

[insomnia]

not sure i have it in me to sit through this EoD so someone's gonna have to clutch up in my spot with a random vote hehe

[Sunbae]

yall are like, convinced convinced on arctic and didistetter and grr as town right?

[ladd]

i thought i could stay awake until eod but now i am not so sure, i'll follow along the thread but if i disappear is prolly cause i fell aslepp

i hate defending myself but since people arent doing the work i'll quote it for them

Here is my EoD:

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending

^
was talking about syn, countering arctic argument that he had a wider world view here vs their wolf game

man i cant shake the feeling that sheep is just posting to post at times

in all their pop ins they generally just answer/address the most recent thing, feels like they have no broad of thought at all


like in their last pop in they repeated their ender villa read that they had explained already and they answered someone asking why didistetter is a villager thats like the easiest thing in the world for a wolf to latch onto cause they are super obvious


now this consolidate stuff rings hollow

i'll quote the bad too - sheep pop ins and made a comment about consolidating that ringed hollow to me and reminded me of their last pop in

there were the wagons atp:

Wagons:
Gemma (4) Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
Theknightsofneeee (3) EnderWiggen, Gemma, Didistetter
Raskolnikov (3) Grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan
Syn (2) Newcomb, dyachei
EnderWiggen (2) nebjiamn, dyachei
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Sheepsaysmeep (1) Syn
ColonelLubriderm (1) Vanta Black
No vote: (4) Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple

yea i thought rask was ok in their limited time, i wouldnt kill them

syn i am more cool with dying. i think rask kinda backtracked a little bit on their syn read later in the day too so i wouldnt say syn being a wolf is even outing for rask

4 posts left

now wagons are rask vs syn, I have absolutely no reason to descredit rask read on syn when if i am a wolf it's literally syn only way to save themselves

and i villa read syn counterwagon

why are u voting rask?

i thought they were p villagery

this was literally answering to jan's post quoting rask villareading syn - again i have 0 reason to do it

but there is other wagons why are those 2 the only options? idgi

this is what pinged me about jan during eod and why i started d2 pushing them



i think my mistake was not voting syn but genuinely there was no particular reason for it. if wagons were close at the end i probably would have but once i realized rask was safe i was cool being off wagon shrug.jpg

[Sunbae]

Gonna look at raskol/syn real quick and see if I like voting either of them over gemma

Brb

Gemma you think I’m soldier than both raskol and syn? If so why?

On a brief skim

Rask felt moderately villagery and syn was more null/leaning wolf.

Hmm

Like both of these from raskol

Vote: syn

Might still vote Gemma but I like that he actually got off me :3

yeah im gonna lock in knights as town with the new info on rask being confirmed

[Sunbae]

Gonna look at raskol/syn real quick and see if I like voting either of them over gemma

Brb

Gemma you think I’m soldier than both raskol and syn? If so why?

On a brief skim

Rask felt moderately villagery and syn was more null/leaning wolf.

Hmm

Like both of these from raskol

vote: Syn

dunno but im just saving rask siw

yeah this has to be town too

[insomnia]

Vote: maple

ladd is unvoteable :/

[insomnia]

for villa cred renewal, i was villa reading jan today and defending him and also ender

in case it was needed

[insomnia]

i'd like to kill in benneh / maple today

any other lunch options?

[ladd]

manti somehow randing the only weird role of the game seems incredibly suspicious to me but they hardclaimed self resolvable and it's d2 of a 22 player game so idk if there is any point in lunching them today


if they dont actually confirm themselves tomorrow kill them tho





rask>jan>ender>maple=wisdom is my order of the people who have claimed from most likely real to least likely but with more info on the setup it should be easier to get it right



i thought dya was super likely a villager for meta/toan and some micro stuff (eod post about syn, post saying how they were the only villager voting for sheep is the type of anti tmi post they tend to not make as a wolf ime) but their push on me feels super weak reason wise


i am voting monty atm simply cause he can be with everyone and he is less villagery than vanta. willing to swap tho (if i dont fall asleep)

With rask being a villager, i think its v likely wolves either werent around for eod or had ~no presence. third option would be they bussed but it doesnt feel that way?

[Vanta Black]

claims


i think rasko is always a villa.

PGO means if someone targets them they die right?

Isn't that the usual PGO? But sometimes they kill everyone who targets them, sometimes just one of them. It kinda seems more towny to mention it. But: I am skeptical of all the claim except the most vague one (some kinda PR)

[nebjiamn]

yall are like, convinced convinced on arctic and didistetter and grr as town right?

Yes on Stett and grr

arctic could be a wolf in some worlds but I think he’s still likely town

[grr]

hi, i might not have read every post, saw the Rask claim and the Wisdom claim and the Maple claim and the Jan claim I hope that was all. I don't think I can make EoD.

[Dolby]

Yes on Stett and grr

arctic could be a wolf in some worlds but I think he’s still likely town

Echoing this exactly

what up, reading back

[grr]

Yes on Stett and grr

arctic could be a wolf in some worlds but I think he’s still likely town

I struggle with finding u as a villa usually but ngl from the people I kinda cant really sort at least I like ur reads most (like me is whatever but tinfoil on arctic is what i had today, and i liked ur take on sheep yesterday and the one on montecery too.

(don't ask me why im telling u this)

[grr]

so honestly today a lot of stuff has been pushed I didnt really agree with and im not a fan.

[didistetter]

I gave it to myself with my role, as i mentioned.

sorry @Maple

so just to clarify: you gave yourself the 10 of Swords which = 1 shot nerfed PGO with your own role, and then also someone else inverted you, which you then pretended to not know what means in response to me while then admitting you knew what it meant later

so: are you basically claiming PGO inventor who got inverted so you ended up giving the PGO to yourself?

if so, how is that self confirmable?

[nebjiamn]

i could vote maple

today i feel like he's only been stuck on the inversed / role thing

there's no way all of our claims are legit btw, right?

I mean, maybe they could be, but the game IS very role heavy and thus I’d expect wolves either have some fake claims or lots of roles will be pretty conditional

either way idt there’s value in sorting it out today

[grr]

for maple like if he is in any way not being able to self-resolve then kill him, no shenanigans, but other than that kinda waste of braincells to consider rn.

wisdoms claim looked indeed the worst.

[grr]

oh isnt maple actually confirmable. i am a huge fan of that then.

[Dolby]

I think the VC Stett provided is inaccurate, I think Bop went on Ender and isn't on me rn?

[Montmorency]

I haven't really read D2, but I'm sensing there has been a slew of claims. Can someone summarize/link them and the current tally while I prepare a post? I only skimmed Wisdom is a firefighter and Maple is a gun owner who shot someone (sheep?).

@Montmorency

i am gonna need you to pull the receipts on how it's similar to that game (that i have no recollection of fwiw lol) because literally all i did was say to newcomb that if given a shot i'd dayvig syn and syn going "what really", I don't see how it would make you lean on it being distancing vs v/w

and hally being on the list but not me is cause i am not on visor OP list since i subbed in for hally and thats probably the list syn used

i believe it. i think you/artic/stett/grr are the most obvious villagers itg

Rask has begun the process. But as I said it's not just the one post. Y'all were up and down treating each other's slots like a team.

the pattern as far as I can read (checked 3 pages off the 4 of his ISO) was kinda powerwolfing, handing small TRs to partners unless hard sussed (he followed Boq on saying Kage might be a wolf ) but latching hard on wack villagers (Ender lol). could see it here with Syn in lieu of Kage and Sheep in lieu of Ender. (need to check what was Ladd's first read on Syn before he said he'd dayvig him replying to idontrememberwho)

@Montmorency

I dunno if I have the balls to vote Ladd but I am getting there. Still like my Maple vote more for now. But pending. Will read Ladd's ISO in this game sometimes soon.

Here is one of the walls.

Some excerpts from how ladd interacted with dya, their lhf partner and first to be ousted (ladd was subsequently day-vigged if anyone's taking direction).

dya - i havent been too hot in reading dya lately but i think the way they are making reads at their own pace and the SNARK everytime anyone dares to shade or wolf read them is >>>rand villa

#1719 ladd defends dya from Visor SR: maybe if it was 2 years ago but their meta changed a ton

#1736: In response to Renata suggesting that Visor and dya commenting on Taffy is partners ginning up a counterwagon to Visor: villagery post (but i disagree on dya, they look villagery in the exchange imo)

#1764: In humoring Visor's requesst to talk about something other than Visor/Ender: lettuce talk super briefly (cause i gotta go and i am already late lol) about dya and boq
imo dya was very villagery last couple of pages, i feel the renata/HK pushes are the "hipster" pushes dya makes as a villager where they think they latch onto something and go for it despite what everyone else thinks

#1769: for amy my only fear is dya villa reading them, maybe i should respect dya's read more. but besides that i think they have been wolfy (tho not excessively so) and they fit like a glove in an ender!wolf world

What do you want to call it? Hedging, balancing, deflecting, distancing? We need more eyes on that ladd-syn ISO for D1 this game, though I believe I've posted enough to chew on. Syn's leans list that swaps ladd for Hally while listing every other player, despite having just interacted with ladd, is especially disturbing to me.

[nebjiamn]

I am extremely sus of the idea that anything is self resolving and confirmable

its a flipless game my dudes lol