Tarot Mafia

[nebjiamn]

?Vote: Maple

[insomnia]

I am extremely sus of the idea that anything is self resolving and confirmable

its a flipless game my dudes lol

which is why probably not all of the claims are legit

idk if there's 2 fake ones though or just 1

[nebjiamn]

I am extremely sus of the idea that anything is self resolving and confirmable

its a flipless game my dudes lol

This also lends credence to wisdoms claim being weird

idk, I feel like an arsonist with firefighter being in the game with no role flips is kinda bastard maybe?? The more I think about it that feels like way too much info to withhold from town

[Montmorency]

Although tbh I don't like how Ender handled EOD, offering fairly weak reasons to maintain his early-game vote on knights while shading the Syn CW and declining to comment on Gemma. But if Gemma is the one in my world I'm likeliest to want to swap out, then two, rather than one, of the redacted set - Jan/Wisdom/Ender - should be mafia.

Posts like these late in the day could fit with the modus of trying to skirt the business of the day while priming a scum POE further on.

My current preferences for votes, btw, are:

The duo of old susses:
Knights
Cobalt

The OMGUS duo:
Sunbae
Benneh

The other two who I haven't explained and idk if I want to atm:
Arctic
Colonel Bop

Thus I'm at least 80% sure the game is solved within ladd-Gemma-Colonel-Jan/Ender/Wisdom

My other leans:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

TL
Stetter
Arctic
Newcomb


^ Null
knights
Insomnia
dya


Null
Rask
Maple
Sheep


Special
Jan
Wisdom
Ender



CL (Colonel)
Gemma
ladd

True Null
Vanta
neb
grr
Sunbae
Cobalt

[Maple]

I am a CONFIRMABLE ROLE

I can use a DAY ACTION which will give FEEDBACK at the start of night.

I am shocked that my very limited time this phase is being wasted on belaboring this point.

[Maple]

unlimited despo shots, people

[didistetter]

Wisdom claims Strength, a 2-shot firefighter #1789

Jan claims village pr, role probably couldn’t be inverted #1851

Enderwiggin claims PR who targeted didistetter n1 #1880

Raskolnikov claims vig shot on sheep #1904

Maple claims a confirmable and self resolving role, claims to have given self the 10 of Swords which = 1 shot nerfed PGO, claims to have been inverted n1
#1876

@Montmorency

@Dolby missed that vote somehow, ill look for it

[Maple]

why does god keep giving me his most confirmable roles

[Dolby]

I feel that people have danced around voting Wisdom. Let's get it started then

Wisdom

happy with any of Wisdom/Ender/Maple dying at this exact moment

[Dolby]

why does god keep giving me his most confirmable roles

Host gives their most confirmable roles to their funniest shitposters

[Dolby]

Vote: Wisdom

lol

[grr]

ok so like I'm gonna scattershot something here.

I think very furry: Gemma, Wisdom, ladd (maybe add dolby I dont really want to cause I have not really processed his posts but the ladd tr based on syn spew that didnt look clearing for ladd pinged me)

I think there is some kind of fur here: sunbae, benneh, dya, maple but hard to find as its defo not all 3 of sunbae benneh and dya and their reads on each other are often not bringing super clarity.

I think insomnia, didi is always pure.
Ender and Jan posted stuff today I village read.

colonel i v-read d1 as i am typing this i am getting a bit paranoid.

Um, Gemmas posts were tonally cool and all but the push against didistetter was extremely weird as didistetter is obvious town imo and she got pushed for pushing Raskol, and I also noted that dya was also pushing Raskol (and Ender, who i also believe is a villager?) so I'm not sure why the obvious town was pushed here. I dont know if Gemma is a player who is prone to wild paranoia but if they aren't that is a mega red flag.

Arctic also pushed a lotta things I somewhat disliked today but for him it might just been the disconnect and also maybe there were good reasons to clear him I just forgot. Agree with benneh that's tinfoil stuff.

Other players I just have no thoughts on rn. benneh's read on montecery seemed good I think?

[didistetter]

wait so wtf does inverting a desperado do lol


does it mean you survive if you hit town and die if you hit maf?

rip if tru


but yeah thats confirmable enough

if true, good look for sunbae

[didistetter]

rlly ih...

pls dont call me didi :/

[grr]

rlly ih...

pls dont call me didi :/

apologies, i am aware just forgot.

I think if wisdom is a wolf there is zero cred to gain here today because I read rask is gonna shoot her anyway.

[Dolby]

Monty's latest posts are good and towny

Ladds two votes being Monty and Maple don't feel good even though i still sus Maple.

[Visor]

Players Votes

Maple 4 (Gemma, Raskolnikov, insomnia, nebjiamn)
Raskolnikov 1 (EnderWiggin)
EnderWiggin 1 (ColonelLubriderm)
Gemma 1 (Wisdom)
Wisdom 1 (Dolby)
Dolby 1 (Maple)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
Ladd 1 (dyachei)
Montmorency 1 (Ladd)





believe this is correct

[Montmorency]

Wisdom claims Strength, a 2-shot firefighter #1789

Jan claims village pr, role probably couldn’t be inverted #1851

Enderwiggin claims PR who targeted didistetter n1 #1880

Raskolnikov claims vig shot on sheep #1904

Maple claims a confirmable and self resolving role, claims to have given self the 10 of Swords which = 1 shot nerfed PGO, claims to have been inverted n1
#1876

@Montmorency

@Dolby missed that vote somehow, ill look for it

Wow, what is this inverted shit? They invented a new modifier? Dang.

Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from kills that night, but all their actions will be blocked that night. Actions that would normally be unable to target this action's target will be able to target this action's target.

I have no idea what that means. What happens if a PGO is inverted? Actually, reading again, Maple didn't reveal their PR, just that they were inverted and were gifted a PGO shot.

Before I judge any of these people must be lying, I need clarification on that, and whether it makes sense to assign Mafia such an inverter PR.

[grr]

I would take maples claim as a promise to deliver something that actually clears them. as far as i can see they have not actually claimed what it exactly it is. So I would just delay this till tomorrow and if there is no delivery of anything clearing then I would not be impressed (and for me it would personally be a policy elimination then but I understand others are more considerate)

Is this something people disagree with? Has maple posted so wolfy it's a lock for you @insomnia

[ladd]

Momny dude, syn said hally instead of ladd because they used the list in the op to make the kist which had hally instead of me, i already told ya

I am falling asleep

[Raskolnikov]

wait so wtf does inverting a desperado do lol


does it mean you survive if you hit town and die if you hit maf?

rip if tru


but yeah thats confirmable enough

if true, good look for sunbae

Its convenient isnt? They will be confirmed villa once they shot a villager? Lololol.

LoL even

[Wisdom]

Saw the claim summary above. Maple's posting is pinging me. What's the current vote count?

[Montmorency]

montecery

Never heard that one before.

OK, so I'm inclined to trust Rask and Maple decisively right now, as the most credible claims. (Rask, is there any ISO of you sussing sheep D1?)
@Maple would you be willing to shoot either ladd or Ender today? We should really confirm you today.

Momny dude, syn said hally instead of ladd because they used the list in the op to make the kist which had hally instead of me, i already told ya

I am falling asleep

yooo I'm not buying that, they literally just interacted with you minutes prior, so if that list had even a shred of legitimacy we would at least see both ladd and Hally entered into there.

Vote: ladd

[didistetter]

think maple elim would be stupid when he's claiming desperado that gives feedback start of the night.
@Maple can you/did you use it today?

wisdom firefighter, maple desperado, jan pr, ender pr, rask 2 shot vig

desperado and 2 shot vig feels like a lot of kp but, actual desperado should presumably be self clearing.
@EnderWiggin @Jan if either of yall are MD that might be worth claiming, cause it might lend viability to wisdom's claim


if all of those are legit i feel a little stuck lol

imma re iso dya—was clearing them by assuming they were vigi, but idfk

bop, grr, vanta, arctic, sunbae, insomnia all still feel towny

wagons still look decent for knights and gemma

Nebjiamn, Dolby, Ladd, Montmorency is like... never the team tho

idk ladd/benneh dont feel w/w :wowee:

[didistetter]

Players Votes

Maple 4 (Gemma, Raskolnikov, insomnia, nebjiamn)
Raskolnikov 1 (EnderWiggin)
EnderWiggin 1 (ColonelLubriderm)
Gemma 1 (Wisdom)
Wisdom 1 (Dolby)
Dolby 1 (Maple)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
Ladd 1 (dyachei)
Montmorency 1 (Ladd)





believe this is correct

@Wisdom

@Maple ik it sucks if you're town but frankly you probs need to just fullclaim your role and and desp shot atp

[grr]

Its convenient isnt? They will be confirmed villa once they shot a villager? Lololol.

LoL even

oh i understand. no they won't ofc. if you let them live they shoot a mafia. if they shoot town, well aim better next time ig.

i dont have a strong opinion on this. i'd personally probably give them a chance and if they dont kill mafia bye.

i suppose telling them early that that's how is gonna go would make them shoot the lockest town so mafia get 2 kill tonight that's the risk. can't tell how fishy the claim is. ig sounds really convenient that exactly the player with THAT role got targeted by an inverter?

[nebjiamn]

Idt manti is claiming despi shooter

i I think they were referencing Anni Stett (eg “remember when I was info despo and I died …”)

[Wisdom]

@Wisdom

@Maple ik it sucks if you're town but frankly you probs need to just fullclaim your role and and desp shot atp

Yeah makes sense. If there's something who'd fake claim to live another day it'd be Maple. What was the context before he claimed, was he pushed or was it from a safe position in threadstate?

[Montmorency]

What does inverting a desperado do?!

Actions that would normally be unable to target this action's target will be able to target this action's target.

I must be deeply misunderstanding something, because this sounds like a PR with almost zero use case.

[Arctic]

this post felt real btw. not sure if a wolf would be this umm, righteous (not sure if this is the right word) about that. So like, Ig I'm just towning Raskol again and he can read me however he likes, altho its not gonna give him the full solve if he thinks im a wolf hehe. ^^

i wish i had seen that post before rask claimed because it's always hella towny to call people throwers even though it's pretty disrespectful lol

anyway to re-iterate on my current thinking

i think gemma is spewed town

i think knights is town, because he could have stayed on gemma and moved to syn instead

if these are both correct, that means ladd has been pushing 0 wolves in knights/gemma/sheep on day 1

i frankly don't care about jan's claim, or maple's claim. because jan didn't elaborate and as for maple claiming self-resolving in a rolemadness game, that's like the easiest thing to do as mafia, and the rest of his claim just gives me a vague impression of fuckery to mess with us and have a laugh

i also thought ladd was the vig, so uh

right now i'm at kill maple, ladd, or jan. wisdom's claim is the one i'd actually let resolve because wolves must have some kind of kp somewhere, and if it wasn't syn there's a chance we do see a wolf arso