Fwiw i wouldnt villa read hally for the lurking thing, i have done it plenty as a wolf and have seen wolves do it (sunbae comes to mind)
And hally has a wolfing style pretty similar to mine (just better) so yea thats def not somethimg i would read them on
I think i agree with like all the stuff they have said so far tho so there is def good reasons to v read them
I v read syn now tho i am still unsure why they are putting so much focus on waza/vaimes needing to have a wolf, cant it just be v/v
lmao
i was gonna write a post to vaimes telling him not to v read you for your post about cuth because i remember you making that sort of post as a wolf but i didn’t bother cuz we seem to agree on everything
including apparently not wanting the other to get town read so easily
Fwiw i wouldnt villa read hally for the lurking thing, i have done it plenty as a wolf and have seen wolves do it (sunbae comes to mind)
And hally has a wolfing style pretty similar to mine (just better) so yea thats def not somethimg i would read them on
I think i agree with like all the stuff they have said so far tho so there is def good reasons to v read them
I v read syn now tho i am still unsure why they are putting so much focus on waza/vaimes needing to have a wolf, cant it just be v/v
who exactly is the last line directed at lol, feels a little outta place since ur not directly speaking to syn there but the way you wrote it feels like you should have been
i was gonna write a post to vaimes telling him not to v read you for your post about cuth because i remember you making that sort of post as a wolf but i didn’t bother cuz we seem to agree on everything
including apparently not wanting the other to get town read so easily
Eheh
I do villa read you, i just dislike letting wrong reads go unchallenged
some of it i already mentioned, some of it i thought of but others mentioned before i said it (for example him asking my about wisdom when there wasnt really much to rread wisdom on - to me it felt like he was trying to deflect my focus off from himself). that feeling somewhat doubled up when i question him again on why he felt syn saying "thanks" or "handshake" felt pockety when imo in the context syn said those things it felt perfectly fine and im not sure how else syn was supposed to have responded there. I dont see how me questioning him on that was enough for him to change his mind with his tr on me, i was questioning him in good faith. If i were to think how I felt when vaimes was questioning me i dont think that type of reaction crossed my mind so im not sure why it did to rask (obv people are different and can react differently but it just didnt feel warranted fmpov)
in hindsight im looking at his iso again and i think his answer on why he asked me about wis kinda checks out so maybe thats not so bad. and his tone is fairly decent. so gth id probs go visor before him and marinate on my thoughts on rask a bit more
Alrighty thx
I am having a flashback of something similar happening in the other org game but idk if i am misremembering
Me/rask have had a ton of v/v rands on the org and tbh this feels exactly the same to me
who exactly is the last line directed at lol, feels a little outta place since ur not directly speaking to syn there but the way you wrote it feels like you should have been
Uh it was like a general comment i guess lol
Idk i started writing about syn and it ended up a weird mix between a read and a question
post #96 where he goes into his thoughts on waza felt like an angle a wolf wouldn’t really take and was a pretty nuanced progression of thought. and in general he feels fine imo? though i don’t have the same level of experience with him as ladd does and it feels like when we play together i’m always wolfing against him
the only people that i haven’t felt anything villagery from are cuth/maple/ender but that feels like a really lame PoE
i don’t really feel like killing outside there rn though
curious if anyone has any reason to town read anyone in that group?
i have re read the thread real quick trying to be a bit more critical of people, otherwise i feel we are not gonna get anywhere
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
You didn't think her [wisdom] reads looked hedgy?
i didnt have this impression reading in real time but looking back on wisdom post:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
I'm sleep and energy deprived from a lot of travels the last few weeks + had my once-every-five-year big birthday party yesterday. I'm exhausted but still really hyped by this game!
A few notes in case I pass out:
- Syn town for now but we'll see, I have a bad track record on him
- Ender town, good vibes
- I can see why ladd would be town but not locking it
- Rask wolf (yes)
- Dunno about Waza, I really struggle on that one, but I get w/w vibes from his interactions with Rask, so
- Don't know about Vaimes' alignment but I really look forward to playing with him
Who needs 75 posts when you can just solve the game before hitting post min (:
it's true that they are not really saying much beyond the rask wolf read and ender villa read and that makes the last comment even weirder
post #96 where he goes into his thoughts on waza felt like an angle a wolf wouldn’t really take and was a pretty nuanced progression of thought. and in general he feels fine imo? though i don’t have the same level of experience with him as ladd does and it feels like when we play together i’m always wolfing against him
the only people that i haven’t felt anything villagery from are cuth/maple/ender but that feels like a really lame PoE
i don’t really feel like killing outside there rn though
curious if anyone has any reason to town read anyone in that group?
i guess
oops, hit submit by accident
was gonna say i guess if taffy doesn’t do anything else i could see myself considering dropping her down but i feel like i recall her being a low poster? so meh
post #96 where he goes into his thoughts on waza felt like an angle a wolf wouldn’t really take and was a pretty nuanced progression of thought. and in general he feels fine imo? though i don’t have the same level of experience with him as ladd does and it feels like when we play together i’m always wolfing against him
the only people that i haven’t felt anything villagery from are cuth/maple/ender but that feels like a really lame PoE
i don’t really feel like killing outside there rn though
curious if anyone has any reason to town read anyone in that group?
i guess
not really
tho i am personally more at
me
vaimes
waza
rask
hally
taffy
syn
cape
as people i villa read, in no particular order
vs
cuth
maple
ender
visor
wisdom
as the rest, in no particular order
of course not that much to off on so (almost) nothing is signed with blood
Originally Posted by Hally
was gonna say i guess if taffy doesn’t do anything else i could see myself considering dropping her down but i feel like i recall her being a low poster? so meh
yea, i agree with this and almost had them in the other tier just to be safer but I also think they have had some of the most original thoughts itt so i am inclined to think they are more likely to be a villager than not
mm, wisdom and visor were the other two i was considering putting in the PoE but not sure if that’s just because they haven’t been around
they def feel like the thinnest villa reads i made though
ngl i can’t even remember what i liked from wisdom, i was gonna answer her when waza asked me who i might have town read too easily
ladd, do you think visor would open with pushing you/waza as w/w though? i guess he’s a crafty guy so maybe but i got kinda pocketed by it cuz i thought your mutual town reads could be w/w too initially
Then I washed my hands, looked at myself in the mirror, saw a tall thin figure with a face that was already showing a few wrinkles, too many, a female Don Quixote as Pedro Garfias called me, and then I went out into the corridor, and there I realized right away that something was going on: the corridor was empty, nothing but faded shades of cream, and up the stairwell came a sound of shouting, a petrifying, history-making sound.
votal
ladd - visor, syn
maple - hally
cuth - vaimes
visor - ender
deadline is in like 17 1/2 hours i prob won't be able to do another votal before then ur on your own pals
tbf ladd kinda did it first in a more round about way
not saying two villas cant do it, but yeah just thought its worth pointing out
And I mentioned liking that post very early on
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
because it's fun being coy and also more saying it for my own benefit than anyone else probably tbh
also being clear about that sort of thing affects how people post which can be counterproductive
I'm not going to discuss that post any more
I would question this, but I think I'll just take Cuth's word for this as it seems real tbh.
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
it's way too early to make that kind of post lmao
but you're probably town for it ig
I agree with this post on the waza post above it, and find it kinda towny that Cuth is saying it.
Originally Posted by ladd
Fwiw i wouldnt villa read hally for the lurking thing, i have done it plenty as a wolf and have seen wolves do it (sunbae comes to mind)
And hally has a wolfing style pretty similar to mine (just better) so yea thats def not somethimg i would read them on
I think i agree with like all the stuff they have said so far tho so there is def good reasons to v read them
I v read syn now tho i am still unsure why they are putting so much focus on waza/vaimes needing to have a wolf, cant it just be v/v
fair enough, I mean I would more likely townlean Hally if that was the only thing I was townreading her for, on top of everything else I said about Hally, I haven't had a problem with what I have seen from Hally's takes and even the hedginess of them (I wanted to look into the recent Rask take further as i havent done so yet).
im not bothered to find everyones name to tag them and probs wont be around eod
but for someone who is can u make sure people submit their votes well before timer...just incase the site lags its probs better we have votes in before then
(im a hypocrite though because i probs dont see myself voting anytime soon)
ladd, do you think visor would open with pushing you/waza as w/w though? i guess he’s a crafty guy so maybe but i got kinda pocketed by it cuz i thought your mutual town reads could be w/w too initially
Depends what he does with it, i dont really see why not tho. Its not like i am hard to push these days
I just dont think there is anything he has done right now worth villa reading (or wolfreading)
If i wanted to stretch it a bit i dont see why i couldnt just be a wolf TMIng waza but i guess saying w/w is cooler
Also ftr i have villa read waza early in p much all of our v/v rands in long form games afair
he has never been w and me v so i am sure he could easily fool me but i enjoy villaging with him so i ll just call him villa if i think so and revaluate later if needed
i reread maple’s posts and they kind of feel like bs to me but i’m not sure if it’s just manti-isms lol
Originally Posted by Maple
Vaimes, I'm curious -- you're evidently new to the org, but where have you played mafia before previously? You mentioned knowing cuth, so I'm just wondering.
I considered opening with a tunnel on waza but everyone, including ladd, thinks his opening here was at minimum *fine* so I'll just sit here and pout instead. Mm, really there's a LOT of slots here that I could see myself opening up with a tunnel on, but I'd rather meow at my boyfriend instead of getting into things this early.
i don’t get what this means? it feels like maybe wolfy perspective of thinking about who could be pushable instead of just… trying to solve and seeing who you actually wolf read
@Maple can you unpack what you meant here?
Depends what he does with it, i dont really see why not tho. Its not like i am hard to push these days
I just dont think there is anything he has done right now worth villa reading (or wolfreading)
If i wanted to stretch it a bit i dont see why i couldnt just be a wolf TMIng waza but i guess saying w/w is cooler
Also ftr i have villa read waza early in p much all of our v/v rands in long form games afair
he has never been w and me v so i am sure he could easily fool me but i enjoy villaging with him so i ll just call him villa if i think so and revaluate later if needed
likewise
ur a villa read i feel like i have freedom to be wrong on because even if im wrong on you i think people will collapse on you before they collapse on me and there is very little punishment for getting you wrong (unless you tie yourself to me and results in me being mld after ur flip)
post #96 where he goes into his thoughts on waza felt like an angle a wolf wouldn’t really take and was a pretty nuanced progression of thought. and in general he feels fine imo? though i don’t have the same level of experience with him as ladd does and it feels like when we play together i’m always wolfing against him
the only people that i haven’t felt anything villagery from are cuth/maple/ender but that feels like a really lame PoE
i don’t really feel like killing outside there rn though
curious if anyone has any reason to town read anyone in that group?
i guess
1. That Rask post just feels a bit iffy to me with quotes like
It's me realising I handed that townread to waza way too fast
and
But then I realised none of these things were actually AI for whoever is actually a decent wolf.
but at the same time I liked the bit under that that shows this sort of attention to detail that I like.
2. I almost think Ender is town just because he's a really strong wolf and I find his approach to this game so far just... so unlike his wolf games with how unserious he's being. At the same time, that isn't a good reason to town read him.
i reread maple’s posts and they kind of feel like bs to me but i’m not sure if it’s just manti-isms lol
Imo its the latter, maple seems super null to me but ymmv
Originally Posted by Hally
i don’t get what this means? it feels like maybe wolfy perspective of thinking about who could be pushable instead of just… trying to solve and seeing who you actually wolf read
@Maple can you unpack what you meant here?
I mean if thats what they meant why say it itt lol
2. I almost think Ender is town just because he's a really strong wolf and I find his approach to this game so far just... so unlike his wolf games with how unserious he's being. At the same time, that isn't a good reason to town read him.
I do say that my seriousness is usually dependent on my personal mood and not really on my alignment. Being silly as wolf is definitely in my range.
2. I almost think Ender is town just because he's a really strong wolf and I find his approach to this game so far just... so unlike his wolf games with how unserious he's being. At the same time, that isn't a good reason to town read him.
unless his wolf games elsewhere are significantly different, his current gameplay does not seem very far from his wolfing in terms of attitude
Re: Bolañafia
Originally Posted by ladd
Fwiw i wouldnt villa read hally for the lurking thing, i have done it plenty as a wolf and have seen wolves do it (sunbae comes to mind)
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