Originally Posted by Maple:
this eod would be funnier if ladd was a leading wagon still
anyone wanna make that happen?
vote: ladd
Originally Posted by Maple:
hows that work?
i understand you made the post above, but i'd like you to talk through the line
(i understand what the line is but im never all that big on these sorts of reads, especialyl when theyre about the two lead wagons)
there are four mechanical possibilities
w!wisdom + w!visor
w!wisdom + v!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
if wisdom is a wolf and visor is a villager, she's basically throwing. so that world doesn't exist, as far as i'm concerned
w!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
that means the only world for wisdom to be a wolf is the one where she doesn't want to vote her buddy visor
in all other worlds, she's a villager. visor can still be either alignment
these wagons are basically a cop check on wisdom, unless i'm bigtime derping somewhere
Originally Posted by Hally:
honestly the best reason to town read visor might be that i’m not sure he could allow himself to so thoroughly mail it in as a wolf and not even attempt to survive for his team
feel like he’s too good for that
but i don’t know why he would be like this as a villager either, he’s not really a try hard anymore but i don’t think i’ve ever seen him care so little about a game
idk if you were in specchat at the time, but i believe it was during hydras? after?
there was a big convo between like
me nl lissa gh + a few others wherein nl talked about Cycle of Werewolf type shit
so im honestly not all that surprised by this regardless of alignment esp w/ the game start being delayed by like a month
its pretty unfortunate cause i really like playing with nl, and he's generally someone who i can work with really well and is generally v fun to have around
so i was REALLY hoping he'd do enough to keep himself alive here and maybe give me a bit to work with
but it is what it is
im really annoyed with the game so far, especially going into eod like this with the wagon dynamics that we have . i imagine this is going to be a VERY boring time
Raskolnikov 01:18 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Syn:
strange energy in this post
taking a screenshot with my mind
nah, it's just you get the logic, if they are ww, might as well send the other deep if one flips red on D1. But then assuming they are exactly together or Wisdom is just villa out of this post, ignoring the rest of the day, seems like a stretch to me, and not a good idea to me.
but I won't fight it more than that. I can totally see it ww anyway so like y
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
there are four mechanical possibilities
w!wisdom + w!visor
w!wisdom + v!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
if wisdom is a wolf and visor is a villager, she's basically throwing. so that world doesn't exist, as far as i'm concerned
w!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
that means the only world for wisdom to be a wolf is the one where she doesn't want to vote her buddy visor
in all other worlds, she's a villager. visor can still be either alignment
these wagons are basically a cop check on wisdom, unless i'm bigtime derping somewhere
ye the general issue with these sorts of lines is a couple things
1) wolves can paint themselves into worlds where they have to take specific actions or w/e
2) wolves can attempt to look like they are unbothered or uncaring of things by trying to push a third wagon for a *lot* of reasons
so while i do generally ~like these sorts of reads, and i think the conclusion youve drawn is probably ~fine, i think the application here doesnt really work because there isnt aaaaaaactually threat of death yet, and wisdom could have /would have still had PLENTY of time to selfprez. Like sure. If you made this post after a nl yeet and wisdom cw and wisdom was off wagon and no one had talked about this yet?
yeah, i'd agree with you
but you REALLY jumped the gun on this sort of line, and its always best to leave vca for the next day when it comes to this kinda thing
i know i will most certainly be posting a few essays on wagonomics after today!
i mean
it is entirely possible that w!wisdom isn't voting v!visor. i would not be happy to be on the wolfteam in that scenario
so i'm treating it like it doesn't exist
if wisdom is a wolf in any team that doesn't include visor, she always votes him here
so it's not possible for her to be scum, unless she's exactly with visor
am i making sense
Raskolnikov 01:20 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
there are four mechanical possibilities
w!wisdom + w!visor
w!wisdom + v!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
if wisdom is a wolf and visor is a villager, she's basically throwing. so that world doesn't exist, as far as i'm concerned
w!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
that means the only world for wisdom to be a wolf is the one where she doesn't want to vote her buddy visor
in all other worlds, she's a villager. visor can still be either alignment
these wagons are basically a cop check on wisdom, unless i'm bigtime derping somewhere
ok u were allready outed as spammer.
but you are actually a bot lol.
Raskolnikov 01:21 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
there are four mechanical possibilities
w!wisdom + w!visor
w!wisdom + v!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
if wisdom is a wolf and visor is a villager, she's basically throwing. so that world doesn't exist, as far as i'm concerned
w!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + w!visor
v!wisdom + v!visor
that means the only world for wisdom to be a wolf is the one where she doesn't want to vote her buddy visor
in all other worlds, she's a villager. visor can still be either alignment
these wagons are basically a cop check on wisdom, unless i'm bigtime derping somewhere
ok u were allready outed as spammer.
but you are actually a bot lol.
you derping possibility is hiding somewhere behind the line "it's actually silly human beings playing".
sorry if i got too excited
you're right i should've saved it til at least the next day
i kind of let my brain run away
You have my interest here though. Do you often focus on this sort of things in games? Does it generally work?
Its a very much vc-based read. You a wagonomics reader?
well since i puked that up, i'm committed to flipping visor, so that's something
Originally Posted by Maple:
You have my interest here though. Do you often focus on this sort of things in games? Does it generally work?
Its a very much vc-based read. You a wagonomics reader?
i play around with it
does it work? sometimes. but that's just me being bad. it's still read-dependent
would have preferred eod being like
2 hours earlier
Raskolnikov 01:27 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
well since i puked that up, i'm committed to flipping visor, so that's something
actually u have a point here. not sure I have the balls though. I have roughly 30 minutes to find them.
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
i play around with it
does it work? sometimes. but that's just me being bad. it's still read-dependent
for the majority of people it's
its fun though!
the denny's read will never not be an effective means of reading people
Raskolnikov 01:28 07/01/25
@Cuth: why are you voting me? any idea?
as much as it pains me to admit, rask and hally seem fine this eod
Originally Posted by Maple:
as much as it pains me to admit, rask and hally seem fine this eod
i’m sorry i let you down
yeah i don't see any downsides to this?
visor's flip giving info on wisdom is pretty thumbs-up, considering he doesn't have much content himself
and if wisdom slides in to vote visor at the last minute, then she's probably just a wolf
4 visor - ender, waza, hally, vaimes
3 wisdom - ladd, rask, taffy
1 ladd - syn
1 rask - cuth
1 ladd - wisdom
1 taffy - cape
1 ender - visor
1 cuth - maple
EnderWiggin 01:37 07/01/25
4 visor - ender, waza, hally, vaimes
3 wisdom - ladd, raskolnikov, taffy
2 ladd - wisdom, syn
1 raskolnikov - cuth
1 taffy - cape
1 ender - visor
1 cuth - maple
---
mmm. Visor not even fighting feels weird for w!Visor.
Am I doubting my read at the 11th hour? Bloody right I am.
EnderWiggin 01:38 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
4 visor - ender, waza, hally, vaimes
3 wisdom - ladd, rask, taffy
1 ladd - syn
1 rask - cuth
1 ladd - wisdom
1 taffy - cape
1 ender - visor
1 cuth - maple
I appreciate the two lines of "1 ladd".
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
these wagons are basically a cop check on wisdom, unless i'm bigtime derping somewhere
killing someone does tend to reveal their alignment yes
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
yeah i don't see any downsides to this?
visor's flip giving info on wisdom is pretty thumbs-up, considering he doesn't have much content himself
and if wisdom slides in to vote visor at the last minute, then she's probably just a wolf
okay but like
you have put all this out there and it has been observed
so its all a wash anyway
like, visor dies and do we *really* get any info out of that?
so this isn't actually real in the slightest
just kill nl for being lacking not posting content and not saving himself, dont try to make it an infoyeet when its just a normal ass d1 kill lol
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
mmm. Visor not even fighting feels weird for w!Visor.
Am I doubting my read at the 11th hour? Bloody right I am.
blease like three other people already had this arc
can we get one of the wagons up to 6 so there's forced competition? im very uncomfortable being on 4-3
i also dont even think people are all that serious about these wagons, and think cuth would be a GREAT cw
let's do a three-way guys. we have the technology
Raskolnikov 01:43 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Maple:
as much as it pains me to admit, rask and hally seem fine this eod
I am stockpiling wolfy nuggets just to unleash them at Syn's face at EOD minus 1. stay tuned.
EnderWiggin 01:43 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Syn:
blease like three other people already had this arc
just like this forum
Raskolnikov 01:44 07/01/25
Originally Posted by Syn:
let's do a three-way guys. we have the technology
sounding french suddenly
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