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[Maple]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

[Maple]

oki back to bed!

[Raskolnikov]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

it was me but nvm, get back to me l8r or don't. emergencies always get back to you, one way or another

[Totally not Taffy]

the math ain't mathing, unless you're joking. or just talking about day 1

if out of all the posts you've made so far, zero of them will help me read you, what am i to do? cross my fingers and make it a future problem? why shouldn't everyone be readable day 1? i'm not asking for "locked and never rescinding" levels of towniness from you

The thing is, one of Ender's defining traits as a player is that he's exceedingly aware of his own play and what ppl read him on and he's really good at emulating his town play as a wolf. The one thing I haven't seen him be able to copy is that, if he's the first player in a game to catch a wolf and he's sure of himself, you can tell bc his posts sound giddy and he never quite gets that when he's bussing (or pushing a town for that matter) but ofc that's not going to be useful in every game. Other than that it's really mostly about how he interacts with flips, who he pushes when etc but that usually only becomes apparent after a few flips.

Atm I'm thinking town mostly bc we've had an overnight shift in wagons where most votes are for Wisdom while Wisdom thinks Rask's the wolf and Ender says he wants to shoot Rask bc it'll help him solve Wisdom (and others, he didn't phrase it this way but that's what I'm taking from it).

I think if he was partnered with either one he'd go about it differently. If they're v/v I could see him give this answer as either alignment but I don't believe they're v/v.

[Wisdom]

The thing is, one of Ender's defining traits as a player is that he's exceedingly aware of his own play and what ppl read him on and he's really good at emulating his town play as a wolf. The one thing I haven't seen him be able to copy is that, if he's the first player in a game to catch a wolf and he's sure of himself, you can tell bc his posts sound giddy and he never quite gets that when he's bussing (or pushing a town for that matter) but ofc that's not going to be useful in every game. Other than that it's really mostly about how he interacts with flips, who he pushes when etc but that usually only becomes apparent after a few flips.

Atm I'm thinking town mostly bc we've had an overnight shift in wagons where most votes are for Wisdom while Wisdom thinks Rask's the wolf and Ender says he wants to shoot Rask bc it'll help him solve Wisdom (and others, he didn't phrase it this way but that's what I'm taking from it).

I think if he was partnered with either one he'd go about it differently. If they're v/v I could see him give this answer as either alignment but I don't believe they're v/v.

This is a bit of a word salad but I don't think Taffy/Ender are w/w

[Totally not Taffy]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

Someone asked what pinged you from Waza's SoD that nobody else was picking up on and I thought that was a good question so I'ma repeat it.

[Totally not Taffy]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

[Syn]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

I always make jokes. You will always see me making jokes more than making reads

Also I say this every game and every time I get ignored, but Rask has no godread on me. he doesn't even have a vaguely reliable read on me. This site just turbo-chops me whenever my activity dips and they happened to get lucky twice and now think I just don't post when I wolf, which isn't true. look at me now. I'm active and posting and I'm a wolf

But yes Rask is wolfy and he should be launched into the sun

[ladd]

I always make jokes. You will always see me making jokes more than making reads

Also I say this every game and every time I get ignored, but Rask has no godread on me. he doesn't even have a vaguely reliable read on me. This site just turbo-chops me whenever my activity dips and they happened to get lucky twice and now think I just don't post when I wolf, which isn't true. look at me now. I'm active and posting and I'm a wolf

But yes Rask is wolfy and he should be launched into the sun

[Hally]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

i don’t really follow this post

as in, nothing you’ve said here really seems wolfy for either rask or wisdom

you’re kinda just narrating everything they’ve done and then saying it makes one of them a wolf but i don’t see why they can’t be villagers doing that stuff?

[Raskolnikov]

i don’t really follow this post

as in, nothing you’ve said here really seems wolfy for either rask or wisdom

you’re kinda just narrating everything they’ve done and then saying it makes one of them a wolf but i don’t see why they can’t be villagers doing that stuff?

u know I have been thinking at it for a while and I actually think taffy might be woofing lol. Because as u say it's a narrative, she even repeated my question to Maple two posts before this one saying it's actually a good one (was asking Maple what pinged them in wazas stuff early) but then comes in and postx both Wis and I are getting wolfier. It feels like she didn't even notice that question was coming from me, just elected Wis and I should be scrutinized for nuggets.

Her earlier posts are giving me pause but this one is definatly wolfy. I hope she comes back before EOD, I'd like to hear more about it smh

[Maple]

@ wolves you should kill ladd tonight and then quote this post D2, i bet you can mislunch me if you try

im saving you for f3, boss :hattip:

u know I have been thinking at it for a while and I actually think taffy might be woofing lol. Because as u say it's a narrative, she even repeated my question to Maple two posts before this one saying it's actually a good one (was asking Maple what pinged them in wazas stuff early) but then comes in and postx both Wis and I are getting wolfier. It feels like she didn't even notice that question was coming from me, just elected Wis and I should be scrutinized for nuggets.

Her earlier posts are giving me pause but this one is definatly wolfy. I hope she comes back before EOD, I'd like to hear more about it smh

wrt the stuff about me, it came down to a couple things. something about waza's... gentle approach, followed by the turnaround w/ some like weirdness in the posts wrt vaimes seemed very weak and i considered digging into it to try to unearth some extra insights. Just didnt have the energy to get into it, so decided to sponge instead.

there was also just a few sorta *random* things, i felt that his handling of my slot felt sort of odd? but we've basically only played turbos together so ymmv.

so basically

I could go either way on him :3

[Totally not Taffy]

i don’t really follow this post

as in, nothing you’ve said here really seems wolfy for either rask or wisdom

you’re kinda just narrating everything they’ve done and then saying it makes one of them a wolf but i don’t see why they can’t be villagers doing that stuff?

They've both done a lot more than this, but these particular things they've done make me think there's a wolf between them

[Wisdom]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

Also word salady but I think the thoughts are solid
I'm really not confident Taffy is wolfing here but I'm running out of options

[Wisdom]

True, the way Taffy voted me for ??? reasons was weird

[Syn]

I still soulread Syn v

Good poem btw

Think this strengthens my Syn v read
Don't think putting ladd together with v!Waza means anything but I also sus Visor's brain going "I'm gonna join thread and namedrop three townies". Maybe it's wifom. Maybe ladd's still wolf, but not a priority solve atm anyway

if wisdom flips wolf these are the posts that will kill me in the subsequent iso

[Cape90]

Also word salady but I think the thoughts are solid
I'm really not confident Taffy is wolfing here but I'm running out of options

My issue with that post is it is incredibly one-track minded, and the Rask-Syn thing is kind of like... how I form reads when I am wolfing, there is just something very calculated and yet lacking nuance.

The read on you making your readslist just to put a wolfread on Rask seems like a very big stretch to me and it also assumes that everyone, or most of everyone will very much notice your read on Rask and take special note of it.

Then there is like vague shade on Syn.

The Rask read is ungenerous.

Honestly, Taffy's post there to me looks like Taffy putting 2 villagers in a boxing ring, and like, this is what I meant by the post looked like Taffy was creating a narrative moreso then solving, like it seems so hyperfocused on one thing instead of looking holistically, which is a thing that pings me about the post.

If you are villager here (which I kind of think even though you are still POE for me as I need to look back), I think there is a good chance Taffy is just mafia here

[EnderWiggin]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

If anyone tinfoils Syn tomorrow they should read this post first.

[Maple]

If anyone tinfoils Syn tomorrow they should read this post first.

ye UNFORTUNATELY they are unaligned

[EnderWiggin]

Man Cape suffered bad from catching the wrong wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

Yeah anyway I think Syn/Cape look very good reviewing earlier posts. Cuth is clear obviously.

Honestly I like Ladd but there's less clearing for him outside revealing the Cuth Desp.

Maple is the one I'd consider most sus but I have removed my Ladd defense. This is my legacy. I need to go do work now so have fun y'all.

Towniest > Wolfiest:
Cuth > Cape > Syn > Ladd > Maple

[Totally not Taffy]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

[Totally not Taffy]

oh great sorry for the double post

[Wisdom]

I don't have much faith that a wolf yeets today but I still think there are wolves in ladd/visor/maple

[Wisdom]

I don't have much faith that a wolf yeets today but I still think there are wolves in ladd/visor/maple

And Cuth
Ender too, maybe?

[Wisdom]

Waza
Hally
Taffy
Cape
Rask
Vaimes
Syn
---------
Ender
Visor/Maple/Cuth
---------
Ladd

[Vaimes]

first off, i want to apologize for my blackout levels of insanity yesterday. i'm just glad something good came out of it

second:

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I don't have much faith that a wolf yeets today but I still think there are wolves in ladd/visor/maple

Waza
Hally
Taffy
Cape
Rask
Vaimes
Syn
---------
Ender
Visor/Maple/Cuth
---------
Ladd

My meta is quite easy really- If I'm top wagon d1 I'm town

Sorry for not being in a state where I can fight getting yeeted, getting shrugyeeted isn't really my standard but I guess that's where we are in this gamestate.

I don't have the capacity to case people but I'm quite confident that Waza is just town, and I'm willing to trust his Cape read. Can't bet the game on anything else, sadly. Even ladd's got a few towny posts and even though it's a waste to yeet me I'm also too much of a softheart to push Cuth/Maple/Visor when they haven't really started.

Last time I saw Visor wolf he afk'd all days and went ham during EoD to survive, just... keep that in mind.

i still don't understand why wisdom refuses to vote for visor, but then tacks on a "oh btw he can totally be inactive scum" tidbit right at the end unless she's just flat-out his partner and this was just a shitty day 1 for the wolfteam

[Raskolnikov]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

for context, my read on Syn last game was terrible (last summer game where I was 3p) so u gotta understand it is influencing and colouring my approach to his slot (something along the line "hey pal, you could be wrong, so relax and don't burry him after a ping"), and also I think he has been villagery in this game.

also, that post about flashing Visor at EOD was a joke (or not )

tsk tsk tsk. (ngl taffy, I liked your previous input but not this one - like I am having trouble believing u couldn't parse the jokes from the actual content in my posts)

[Totally not Taffy]

for context, my read on Syn last game was terrible (last summer game where I was 3p) so u gotta understand it is influencing and colouring my approach to his slot (something along the line "hey pal, you could be wrong, so relax and don't burry him after a ping"), and also I think he has been villagery in this game.

also, that post about flashing Visor at EOD was a joke (or not )

tsk tsk tsk. (ngl taffy, I liked your previous input but not this one - like I am having trouble believing u couldn't parse the jokes from the actual content in my posts)

Veiled threat acknowledged, but you're basing it on the wrong thing. I did get that that one post was a joke, what I missed though was that you'd changed your vote from Cuth to Wisdom before bc it was below the gif I scrolled past. I still feel like your Wisdom stance seemed to be on two tracks alternating between "she's a wolf" and "I'm not sure on this".

vote: Cuth

tx. the last line is a bit weird though. what did you like in Wisdoms posts at first?

Ask Waza why he liked Wisdom (bc of her sus on Rask, ftr, but I left that quote off)

lmao



vote: Wisdom

Now she's a wolf, and the thought of Waza townreading her sus on you is funny

I hope we all agree this is just us teasing Wisdom for her birthday and we are going to flash lunch Visor not matter what.

This is a joke (about killing Wisdom on her birthday which I'm not sure is all that funny and might show a guilty consience about it)

wolfiest post of the thread for you ^^

Now there's a reason why she's a wolf

I was about to post to waza #264 is borderline confbias territory (even for me) but man #267 is rough geez

Waza's reasons for why she's a wolf is confbias, but your own is still valid

Vaimes feels like baby me with a cooler avatar. fr (nowadays, I don't get upset about potatoes anymore, I just bake them)

thoughts about Cuth/Maple/Wisdom?

Asking Vaimes to compare Wisdom to two ppl who have barely posted

refresh and the button migh appear.

I think Id puth Cuth a bit above the other two but for surface level notes only (they feel laid back or something) but I will reread them and Wisdom. Just did Maple and yeah plain null.

I am curious what pinged them though about waza. @Maple

Vaimes thinks she's the towniest of the three names given so you're going to reread

would prolly tell u Wisdom is a wolf

Now she's a wolf, but with a funny reference to her firefighter claim

Please appreciate how much I had to fight the forum to collect all these quotes, the multiquote function hates me. I hope you see what I meant here, it's like wolf unsure wolf unsure... thought it does look a lot more natural with the Wisdom vote. Also kudos for being the one who asked the good Maple question.

[Cape90]

Veiled threat acknowledged, but you're basing it on the wrong thing. I did get that that one post was a joke, what I missed though was that you'd changed your vote from Cuth to Wisdom before bc it was below the gif I scrolled past. I still feel like your Wisdom stance seemed to be on two tracks alternating between "she's a wolf" and "I'm not sure on this".






Ask Waza why he liked Wisdom (bc of her sus on Rask, ftr, but I left that quote off)



Now she's a wolf, and the thought of Waza townreading her sus on you is funny



This is a joke (about killing Wisdom on her birthday which I'm not sure is all that funny and might show a guilty consience about it)



Now there's a reason why she's a wolf



Waza's reasons for why she's a wolf is confbias, but your own is still valid



Asking Vaimes to compare Wisdom to two ppl who have barely posted



Vaimes thinks she's the towniest of the three names given so you're going to reread



Now she's a wolf, but with a funny reference to her firefighter claim

Please appreciate how much I had to fight the forum to collect all these quotes, the multiquote function hates me. I hope you see what I meant here, it's like wolf unsure wolf unsure... thought it does look a lot more natural with the Wisdom vote. Also kudos for being the one who asked the good Maple question.

you can read this whole quote wall on yall's own but what I am seeing is

1. Taffy being super aware of any pressure/negative comment they have been getting and feeling a tad abrasive either over it, or just in general

2. I take issue with specifically

Waza's reasons for why she's a wolf is confbias, but your own is still valid

which feels like an egg on.

3. I feel like all this was supposed to be a gotcha on how Rask was hardly explaining his Wisdom suspicion, but then it just... it feels strange that Taffy compiled all of these and basically just summarized most of the posts. And it leaves me feeling like "why is this post so busy? What was I supposed to get out of that? What is Rask supposed to get out of that?"