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Vaimes 03:08 01-08-2025
it's not that crazy of a tinfoil. i also played with the idea that visor died with some sort of plan in place

better than thinking he just gave up or w/e

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ladd 03:09 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Hally:
i considered during the night whether the ender/visor stuff could have been some planned bus where visor didn’t wanna play so he told ender he was gonna bs a push on him so ender could be spewed and get some cred

normally i wouldn’t entertain something like this but visor’s post about ender was just… so bizarre and it being a plan helps rationalize why visor didn’t fight his lunch at all

but anyway, just a tinfoil for now
Yea but visor was like okayish until that post iirc

I think if he pop ins and just says something like "sorry i am busy today, will be around more tomorrow" wisdom gets lunched

Then ender backtracks on the visor read at eod (kinda weird)


Idk if ender is a wolf I am just kinda confused as to why not just get the wisdom mislunch (unless its ender/wisdom)

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Maple 03:09 01-08-2025
looks like 2 wolf kills to me, unless rask triggered his role and blasted himself with the despo shot

waza was evidently the factional, unless some weird shit went down

> Hello, at least: On days 1 and 2, you may target a player to form a neighborhood with them during the next night phase.

anyone have a hood with rask ln?

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ladd 03:10 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
it's not that crazy of a tinfoil. i also played with the idea that visor died with some sort of plan in place

better than thinking he just gave up or w/e
I think he just had no time/didnt feel like playing ww

Happens

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Vaimes 03:10 01-08-2025
vote: maple

you can dome me, if you want

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Maple 03:11 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Hally:
i feel like i learned basically nothing from lunching visor even though he flipped wolf

can’t really gauge what went down without knowing wisdom’s alignment, she would have been a good vig shot despite my personal hesitation there just to resolve the counterwagon
whens the last time youve seen a game with actually competitive wagons that actually tell you shit?

i find every game being like this sooo tilting, it fucks my general play pattern so bad

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Vaimes 03:11 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Maple:
looks like 2 wolf kills to me, unless rask triggered his role and blasted himself with the despo shot

waza was evidently the factional, unless some weird shit went down

> Hello, at least: On days 1 and 2, you may target a player to form a neighborhood with them during the next night phase.

anyone have a hood with rask ln?
ladd was neighbor'd. they tried to despo cuth

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Maple 03:13 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by ladd:
Sap just quickly popping in to say i was in chat with rask and we desperado shot cuth (hence why rask is ded) who is now clear

Read rask role

Back to sleep
aight dope

good enough for me

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Vaimes 03:13 01-08-2025
is

is extra wolf kp reasonable with a 10v3 start?

because that sounds terrible

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Syn 03:14 01-08-2025
nobody look at visor's ability and me saying we should tie the wagons EOD pls thanks

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Maple 03:14 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
is

is extra wolf kp reasonable with a 10v3 start?

because that sounds terrible
depends the mod and setup

my experience with org games has been *strange* setups for the most part.

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Syn 03:15 01-08-2025
vote: Maple

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Maple 03:15 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Syn:
nobody look at visor's ability and me saying we should tie the wagons EOD pls thanks
yeah we should clear me for saying we need to consolidate out of range of a wolf blitz instead

yall motherfuckers refusing to make a real, viable cw sucks tho

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Hally 03:19 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by ladd:
Yea but visor was like okayish until that post iirc

I think if he pop ins and just says something like "sorry i am busy today, will be around more tomorrow" wisdom gets lunched

Then ender backtracks on the visor read at eod (kinda weird)


Idk if ender is a wolf I am just kinda confused as to why not just get the wisdom mislunch (unless its ender/wisdom)
i don’t think the backtrack was weird really, ender basically had the same thought process there as me

i.e. “it seems really out of character for w!visor to give up like this but don’t know where else to go so guess i’ll stay”

i mean, last time visor was a wolf we saw him fight his lunch hard and set up spew despite his lunch being even more of a foregone conclusion than it was here, so with that context i think it’s reasonable to get cold feet at him rolling over

but yeah, i think that’s a good point that it was pretty unnecessary if it was a planned bus cuz at the point visor came back i thought wisdom was getting lunched for sure and don’t think we would have gone visor if he hadn’t made that post

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Maple 03:19 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Gemma:
I don’t know which of us killed the other: If you successfully convince a player to make a genuine role claim to you in the neighborhood chat without mentioning this aspect of your role (or if they claim unprompted), the following happens instead:
  • Your role deactivates
  • You receive one Desperado or Vengeful nightvig of your choosing.
im going to assume that this mechanic was role agnostic but clear ladd anyway because im just different like that

waza's role seems to imply wolves have some sort of vigi

we have at most 1 more kill outside the 1xkp of the despo

i doubt we have any full cops or anything; the possibility of a doctor is sorta mid? maybe a jk i guess, this game feels PR dense.

If i were the designer of this game and i made rask's role and i had it be alignment agnostic, i'd give the wolves at least 1 goon; it is interseting because it does soft-RC anyone in the hood since any claim needs to be a trueclaim to proc the ability, which is hidden. pretty sneaky, could have that as our TI slot, which limits us to like... a BG +1 utility PR or something like that.

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Maple 03:20 01-08-2025
ladd, hypothetically, might you be a bodyguard?

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Hally 03:20 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Maple:
whens the last time youve seen a game with actually competitive wagons that actually tell you shit?

i find every game being like this sooo tilting, it fucks my general play pattern so bad
well if wisdom is a wolf it tells me ladd is very likely a villager, if she’s not then i’m less sure

just as an example

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Maple 03:21 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Hally:
well if wisdom is a wolf it tells me ladd is very likely a villager, if she’s not then i’m less sure

just as an example
Wow ladd as a likely villager off of a wisdom flip

where have i heard that one before?

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EnderWiggin 03:22 01-08-2025
@Vaimes

I now can point at posts and say you should townread me off them =P

Secondly, if I'm w/w with Visor I:

1. Don't enter day and immediately start pressuring him within the first 4 posts. (Visor can easily coast through there if no one pressured him and he didn't make the post on me.)

2. Don't question myself EOD without doing any vote swapping. I'm a notorious vote swapper for pressure and I honestly would've just done it as w/w to try and make a tie somehow. Also doubting it eod makes me get less cred which is bad if I literally bussed him for Cred.

This is my only post that I'm gonna put forward reasons y'all should be locktowning me, further posts will be back to regular scheduled shitpostery with godlike solving.

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Maple 03:22 01-08-2025
god how fucking funny would it be

to have rask's role

and your person claims 2-shot firefighter

and then it procs

that would be actual art

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Maple 03:27 01-08-2025
yes, ender is indeed probably a villager

so is hally

so is ladd

really looking for us to go into f5 with cuth tho that'll be a lot of fun

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Hally 03:30 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Maple:
yes, ender is indeed probably a villager

so is hally

so is ladd

really looking for us to go into f5 with cuth tho that'll be a lot of fun
do you think ladd is a villager because of rask’s role? i think i’m not quite following why

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Maple 03:32 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Hally:
do you think ladd is a villager because of rask’s role? i think i’m not quite following why
i think ladd is village in general

i think that proccing rask's role is >rand v

i think he's going to die in the night shortly so we should play around that

ya know how it is

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EnderWiggin 03:33 01-08-2025
Vote: Wisdom

Will think more on this later.

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Vaimes 03:39 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
@Vaimes

I now can point at posts and say you should townread me off them =P

Secondly, if I'm w/w with Visor I:

1. Don't enter day and immediately start pressuring him within the first 4 posts. (Visor can easily coast through there if no one pressured him and he didn't make the post on me.)

2. Don't question myself EOD without doing any vote swapping. I'm a notorious vote swapper for pressure and I honestly would've just done it as w/w to try and make a tie somehow. Also doubting it eod makes me get less cred which is bad if I literally bussed him for Cred.

This is my only post that I'm gonna put forward reasons y'all should be locktowning me, further posts will be back to regular scheduled shitpostery with godlike solving.
i wouldn't be a very good student if i took your advice/mentorship and then did the exact opposite of the lesson you were teaching me, would i?

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EnderWiggin 03:41 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Vaimes:
i wouldn't be a very good student if i took your advice/mentorship and then did the exact opposite of the lesson you were teaching me, would i?


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Hally 03:41 01-08-2025
i hesitate to read much into wisdom not self-presing onto visor because i don’t understand why w!wisdom wouldn’t self-pres onto w!visor

visor wasn’t even really playing, wisdom should want to survive over him because at least she was trying and had some people town reading her

feels like one of those things that could mean anything

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Maple 03:43 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Hally:
i hesitate to read much into wisdom not self-presing onto visor because i don’t understand why w!wisdom wouldn’t self-pres onto w!visor

visor wasn’t even really playing, wisdom should want to survive over him because at least she was trying and had some people town reading her

feels like one of those things that could mean anything
the wisdom wagon didnt feel particularly competitive around EoD in general, didnt feel like people had particular want for that to go over

not sure if any of yall got that vibe, but its what i had been bitching about for the last 45 minutes lol

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Vaimes 03:44 01-08-2025
maple makes a good point about rask's ability functioning like a rolecop

but it doesn't clarify whether a trueclaim is different from a "genuine" fakeclaim (since rask would never know the difference), or if the ability wouldn't trigger unless it was an honest to god mod-confirmed trueclaim

or if claiming vanilla as a goon would count

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Hally 03:45 01-08-2025
Originally Posted by Maple:
the wisdom wagon didnt feel particularly competitive around EoD in general, didnt feel like people had particular want for that to go over

not sure if any of yall got that vibe, but its what i had been bitching about for the last 45 minutes lol
yeah but wisdom is euro, she was never gonna be there for EoD and said that

at the time she left for good i’m pretty sure it was still close

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