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[Hally]

Idk how manti always rands the dumbest PRs lmao

Rask called it too



Vaimes eod seemed pretty uninformed to me, he was 1 of the top 2 waza villa reads and he has seemed to clearly care about who the wolves are. I can re read him but I dont see why he would not be a villager

i think my hesitancy with him is that iirc he’s lacking a convincing push or even a real wolf read, but maybe i forgot something


where’s your head at, ladd? i assume the solve is pretty easy fypov

[Vaimes]

i think my hesitancy with him is that iirc he’s lacking a convincing push or even a real wolf read, but maybe i forgot something


where’s your head at, ladd? i assume the solve is pretty easy fypov

what does "convincing" mean here? even though people yelled at me, i made it pretty clear why i needed to see visor flip

the fact that he flipped w was pure luck

and then we lost an extra villager in the night, and we have to rely on a third party to relay the check on cuth, which... i don't love. right now i think everyone has reasons to be townread so hard choices are coming

[Hally]

what does "convincing" mean here? even though people yelled at me, i made it pretty clear why i needed to see visor flip

the fact that he flipped w was pure luck

and then we lost an extra villager in the night, and we have to rely on a third party to relay the check on cuth, which... i don't love. right now i think everyone has reasons to be townread so hard choices are coming

i mean that your vote was purely mechanical, not voting visor cuz you thought he was a wolf

which is a fine way to choose your vote at EoD tbc, but even prior to that i don’t really remember you wolf reading anyone


i wouldn’t worry about ladd lying about cuth being clear, they would have to be exactly w/w so not worth thinking about unless cuth is alive in lylo

though i do think it’s bit strange that rask would choose to shoot cuth over wisdom, who i think he wolf read more

[Vaimes]

i mean that your vote was purely mechanical, not voting visor cuz you thought he was a wolf

which is a fine way to choose your vote at EoD tbc, but even prior to that i don’t really remember you wolf reading anyone


i wouldn’t worry about ladd lying about cuth being clear, they would have to be exactly w/w so not worth thinking about unless cuth is alive in lylo

though i do think it’s bit strange that rask would choose to shoot cuth over wisdom, who i think he wolf read more

i mean, i also thought he had no interest in helping town solve/win the game. there's more than one way to wolfread someone

just sucks that sometimes slots like that end up flipping v

[Vaimes]

unvote
vote: ender

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yeah doesn't seem like ender killed them which was a thing i was hoping for to just clear Ender just because I don't really think he's done anything that towny beyond ig the Visor stuff (which i felt like he exaggerated a bit upon today but like whatever) but it's like... one of those thoughts that maybe Ender is just playing in a way that is clashing with how I play or what i expect or whatever as his play has been shroudded in game theory "mechanical stuff" beyond his gimmick... somehwat (?) (i was thinking his wall when he talked to Vaimes)
Well I want to see him expand upon where his head is at now that we have Rask's flip, he got what he wanted in terms of his flip and what that reveals about the game or whatever even though he hasn't told us beyond voting Wisdom today

rip me for not actually reading this post earlier. this is EXACTLY what was going through my head this very minute. and then i saw ender's answer and it didn't really do anything for me

I mean that comment was also state of the game prior to Visor's flip. Once Visor flipped wolf tbh I was gonna lock Rask town.

One the other side, you could just vote a wolf with me, that'd be grand.

this is kind of dodging the original question

you said:

I think there are a lot more sus people than Rask. But Rask exists in a place where their flip would tell me a bunch about the game state.

so pretend we're in that moment. you flip rask and he's v. what would that have told you at the time? a bunch of what? if you say "that visor's a wolf the end" i will slap you silly

[EnderWiggin]

so pretend we're in that moment. you flip rask and he's v. what would that have told you at the time? a bunch of what? if you say "that visor's a wolf the end" i will slap you silly

That Visor is a wolf, the end.

Nah Rask state tells me nothing about Visor. I think Rask green makes me even more sus of Wisdom for the interaction/read there. Which is why I'm pushing Wisdom atm.

I even straight up said this on D1 but I guess people didn't read that.

I also think it makes Syn very likely town. I already thought this but it reinforces it.

I thought it would make Cuth more sus but that's irrelevant for now.

And at the time I was like "If Rask is green then Ladd probably green just from the way posted at/around each other." but idk how much I believe in that read anymore.

[Syn]

I also think it makes Syn very likely town. I already thought this but it reinforces it.

what

[EnderWiggin]

what

What?

[EnderWiggin]

I'm ngl it's actually really annoying that I was the first to push a sus on Visor and I'm now in this situation where people are voting me and putting forward me being a wolf.

Most people at the time when I first voiced it (though I was acting my bit at the time and being silly so not really trying to convince others yet) were like "Visor is fine" or "Visor is town". He was on a few POEs but no one really put any sus on him specifically

I think... Waza was the next person to voice anything on it? And that was pages after my initial sus. And then Wisdom Ruleof3's Visor a bunch but never goes there. I don't really remember anyone else following onto Visor until he made the weird-ass post on me.

Like at what point does an experienced player look at thread, see that they're voted by like 2 people(1 of which is a partner who has no reason to stick the vote there permanently) and vaguely sussed by a few others, and say "I'm gonna make a weird-ass toneswitch read on my partner, that'll do it."

[Syn]

What?

I don't see how my alignment relates in any way to any of those people or events

in a positive way, anyway

[Maple]

i think my hesitancy with him is that iirc he’s lacking a convincing push or even a real wolf read, but maybe i forgot something


where’s your head at, ladd? i assume the solve is pretty easy fypov

i think his responses to my grilling at eod look generally good given the results

on visor's role, he was pretty doa so unless wolves chose not to go for a snipe due to the wagon formations, i'd say he just sorta died without the opportunity to use it; i think in general wolves have a pretty strong d1 given visor was *sort of* a dv

also vanillaizor tells us... basically nothing, tho the inventor mode is kinda interesting i guess