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[nebjiamn]

hmm
he's kinda wolfie tho imo

not really just for his scumread on me—specifically saying he thinks Arctic and I are a diff check in 336 doesn't track for me when Arctic and I haven't interacted at all and... should pretty easily be partners from his PoV

he says he's not sure why he thinks that, which is fair, but it's still odd to me

another game state read, and not one i feel particularly confident about on a macro level, but with how the game is shaping up, it feels like there's a contingent of strong trs on slots that fall into my poe that i'm going to be clearly wrong about, but if/as some of that happens, arctic falls into a place where I could see that working if, for example, i'm wrong on you.

this doesn't really apply to a few others in my poe for various reasons that i probably put into words well, but its not just "haha theyre a diff check"

and I haven't interacted at all and... should pretty easily be partners from his PoV

i'm not discounting yall being partners entirely, but to your point, yall dont have pairing interactions so its not something i actively considered. i probably worded that poorly. again, moreso just gamestate wise, I could see arctic being a hit if i'm wrong with you--it just feels kinda right with how the game is is being blended in my brain at the moment. "parsing the game somewhat as a diff check" - somewhat was doing heavy lifting there, but it was more meant to display the world in which we flipped you first and you came around town, my next target for investigation would have been arctic. if arctic got flipped here and was wolf, i don't think i'd have cleared you (barring you being a part of his push).


ftr annika i don't really hate your poe overall -- there's a decent chance a good chunk of it is correct and i think that's viewable by the thread consensus starting to gel around a core of maple/arctic/rask as a main POE group with you/taffy/ender kinda filling the gaps depending on whos making the read

we're only really boned if that has like 1 wolf max but shruze

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dya seems decently townie. them having some conviction and breadth in their reads right away feels like a good entry

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this feels like a good place to say i don't super townread ladd here, but i don't scumlean him either. i kinda just hope he's right on taffy since he's got some conviction there. this is not me saying we judge him solely off their flip--just that it'd be nice for me to not have to parse him after that.

also i'm back on just thinking pzelda is town. i rescinded that tr earlier because i didn't want to do it on the basis of "new player make big poast" but after letting things settle a bit I just come out of their posts feeling good with them. i know this isn't like revelatory for anyone but ya


i will prob move my vote to taffy shortly--i don't come out of this string of posts tring annika but she's given me enough content to wana parse through and let simmer a bit and see what happens this morning. also i'm a bit weirded out the wagon on annika actually took off -- which sucks cause i thnk i'm tring both of the players that joined me? problems for another version of me maybe

[Maple]

I'm eepy and need more sleep idk when eod is but I'm sure I'll be awake before it

[ladd]

this feels like a good place to say i don't super townread ladd here, but i don't scumlean him either.

Seems fair enuf


Not sure i agree on dya with you but its still early we will see

[dyachei]

Whats your concerns about sunbae?

well, his tone feels off to me. that's the long and short of it. He had some stuff around not understanding lissa that other people thought might be weird, but I don't think sunbae generally thinks along game starts/ends meaning people can be more free so i think that's pretty NAI. I'm also not seeing a ton of content from him and he's usually pretty free flowing with that.

[Arctic]

waza i agree on sunbae, he is probably my second guess for a wolf rn based on what you described there, better than i could - but i got pinged by the kinda arbitrary read list too and lack of connections explored from there

idk why you are pinged by me townreading you. i'm pretty good at reading you. i think you are clearly town lol, i haven't seen you wolf in long form so if you think i should know better then well.. i don't. egg on my face if this is wrong, but i am not getting there for a while especially not after this wall

i should probably clarify that i'm not wolfreading stett, actually i'll just make my full read list now

town:

waza
pzelda
lissa
stett
maple
annika
taffy
benneh

poe:

dya
rask
ladd
sunbae
visor

i recognize that i can have 2 more people in my poe lol. and i also recognize that this is a hard world to reconcile because it assumes a bunch of v/v/v violence in waza/annika/stett/benneh. so i'm not ruling out that benneh/annika could have a wolf. but i think sunbae/ladd/visor are all just more likely hits. i don't townread anything from ladd and i have expressed concerns with sunbae and visor. if taffy is a wolf, then maybe i'm wrong on ladd, but i don't really see it. i just think the way taffy made those pushes is town

[Arctic]

waza i agree on sunbae, he is probably my second guess for a wolf rn based on what you described there, better than i could - but i got pinged by the kinda arbitrary read list too and lack of connections explored from there

idk why you are pinged by me townreading you. i'm pretty good at reading you. i think you are clearly town lol, i haven't seen you wolf in long form so if you think i should know better then well.. i don't. egg on my face if this is wrong, but i am not getting there for a while especially not after this wall

i should probably clarify that i'm not wolfreading stett, actually i'll just make my full read list now

town:

waza
pzelda
lissa
stett
maple
annika
taffy
benneh

poe:

dya
rask
ladd
sunbae
visor

i recognize that i can have 2 more people in my poe lol. and i also recognize that this is a hard world to reconcile because it assumes a bunch of v/v/v violence in waza/annika/stett/benneh. so i'm not ruling out that benneh/annika could have a wolf. but i think sunbae/ladd/visor are all just more likely hits. i don't townread anything from ladd and i have expressed concerns with sunbae and visor. if taffy is a wolf, then maybe i'm wrong on ladd, but i don't really see it. i just think the way taffy made those pushes is town

oops, ender is in my poe too

[Arctic]

ugh I am not at all a fan of me/maple/annika being thrown around as the poe when I think this is easily 0 wolves

normally I'd wolfread someone who talks a lot about their process in place of utilising said process, but i think given Maple's existential crisis in mafia (as benneh described earlier) - i think it tracks, and, quoting from waza too, he feels kinda lost in a villagery way and struggling to make stances in a way that wolf him wouldn't be here given the discussion we related to about how wolfing is a lot easier

annika i could be wrong on but i think her push on benneh just sounds like. she is a girlboss and knows she is town. idk. i'm aware girlbossing is a staple of her wolf game, but it didn't.. really feel like a cat scrambling around kinda defence. i think she believes it. i think she can easily defer to Taffy or me as a wolf here but maple is a kinda novel push here (even tho i think it's wrong) which i'd give points to

i'm trying to put words to two reads which are inherently intuitive so i understand if this doesn't convince anyone, but it's how i feel so >.<

[Visor]

"and people even recognize that his push on stett didn't feel great which is the main thing i'm suspicious of"

So people is just Lissa
Didn't feel great is: disagree with basis but still think is a villager

That's the read?

[Visor]

Random aside but I don't know why arctic lumped maple in that grouping earlier, yes people don't have strong reads on maple but she's not actively being targeted

Just felt a touch strange

[Visor]

vote: benneh

nah fuck all yall

im right

i was right yesterday on arctic and i just let him get browbeaten, sorry bronana

[Totally not Taffy]

vote: benneh

nah fuck all yall

im right

i was right yesterday on arctic and i just let him get browbeaten, sorry bronana

This is going to get Ender killed over Lissa
Do you no longer think Lissa is a wolf?
bc if so I'm going back to Maple

Taffy (20)

[nebjiamn]

i see the rest of your wall waza and ill pprocess it in a bit, but this part:

in a world where me annika and stett are all town i am pinged by the fact that he hasnt managed to find any of us 3 this game given he has a really good read on all 3 of us. the caveat is i think annika and stett are defs sandbagging somewhat and im being weird so maybeeeeeeee its excusable but idk

i have stett as town and you as probly town atp. i've said as much im pretty sure re: stett, but she def has some weird sequences that have given me pause

i haven't said it abotu you because honestly the fact that i ended up having you as prob town is kinda boring. part of it is a sheep, part of it is your content gelled better. but i just don't have a ton to back and forth with you about, especially cause of our mutual high-posting, and also you aren't in any kind of danger. and yea, also, your play was annoying me initially lol.

i also think there is/was value to letting e.g. stett build her case on you so i can see it and read her, read others off it, etc, so that's why i didn't step in to be like "hey he's town now let him cook leave it alone"

[nebjiamn]

damn everyone started dropping spicy posts as i have to go into work

i see your posts: @ arcy / waza / ladd (re: dya)

ill think as i sit in traffic

the sunbae reads in general are most interesting to me

[didistetter]

i will prob move my vote to taffy shortly--i don't come out of this string of posts tring annika but she's given me enough content to wana parse through and let simmer a bit and see what happens this morning. also i'm a bit weirded out the wagon on annika actually took off -- which sucks cause i thnk i'm tring both of the players that joined me? problems for another version of me maybe

hm.

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also yeah yeah waza's cap post was towny i'm dropping that push ig