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[Visor]

I agree annika and arctic are both town from eod tho ben.

Really don’t love maple’s omgus and attempted push on annika but we’ll see.
Lissa is the only on wagon voter I’m not lock towning.

I don't care about it

It's not something I see wolf manti thinking is a good use of their time

[waza]

My Eod is simple lol

I signaled twice to get on rask and people didn’t listen

Then Arctic wagon gained traction which I hated because between my last post and when I came back for eod Arctic was one of my main trs, by the time I voted it looked like it was going to be between taffy or Arctic so I pressed for Arctic. Maintained my vote there because I figured if me Arctic and ladd are all there with Annika and stett shielding Arctic he shouldn’t die

Not super convinced at the time that taffy had to be a hit, could go either way, I liked some of taffy’s responses to ladd but I also agree with Arctic that the way taffy claimed felt fake lol

50 post cap is a big nerf so yeah idk maybe I just ghost the entire day until Eod

Also I trd sunbaes posts after I capped, so yeah given that Arctic and sunbae were two people I was willing to consider as wolves switching in my reads and turning into my trs it left rask and taffy as the only slots I was left with being voted. Obv means I miscleared earlier in the day but yeah I’m not gonna explore that option so close to eod when some of those slots were afk

Ben lol I know what ur thinking and when I distance with partners it’s not that obvious and I wouldn’t bother to do it in this lobby with players who know I love to distance lol

[nebjiamn]

Also I trd sunbaes posts after I capped, so yeah given that Arctic and sunbae were two people I was willing to consider as wolves switching in my reads and turning into my trs it left rask and taffy as the only slots I was left with being voted. Obv means I miscleared earlier in the day but yeah I’m not gonna explore that option so close to eod when some of those slots were afk

Ben lol I know what ur thinking and when I distance with partners it’s not that obvious and I wouldn’t bother to do it in this lobby with players who know I love to distance lol

that's not what i'm thinkin

why not just kill rask?

[waza]

that's not what i'm thinkin

why not just kill rask?

Nobody voted him until the last minute, every other time I voted people didn’t join. The wagon took off in the last minute and I didn’t have time to process it, I was already set on just making sure Arctic didn’t die so I committed to the taffy vote

I’ll say this because if I told you the real reason you wouldn’t believe me lol

[waza]

Vote:taffy

Will change if they towntell or ladd wolf tells or I re-evaluate and figure out what I wanna do

Cyas at eod

[Visor]

Looking forward to what taffy and ender have to say

[dyachei]

ben, I'm almost never gonna be able to make EOD because Amy refuses to go to bed reasonably.

Idk how to read taffy so if anyone has some tips there lmk

I am pretty concerned about ladd but felt better about him at EOD

[nebjiamn]

ben, I'm almost never gonna be able to make EOD because Amy refuses to go to bed reasonably.

i know, i don't have any issues with you being gone.

I am pretty concerned about ladd but felt better about him at EOD

??? please explain

[dyachei]

i know, i don't have any issues with you being gone.



??? please explain

i was pretty confused why earlier in the day you were able to find me so soundly but ladd was not. He seemed to get there at EOD which made me feel not as concerned. He's usually very good at reading me but it felt like he was trying to keep options open earlier

[waza]

Annika stett Zelda Ben dya arctic

Probs the core I’m rolling with for today

Only tinfoil there is Ben but yeah like I said 99% of the times someone whose approaching the game like Ben is just town. I hate making conditionals like these but yeah if he’s alive in lylo at the very least he should be forced to make the first vote

Lissa visor ladd are all 3 slots that I’ll think about more once I know taffy’s alignment or have a strong sense of it.

[ladd]

Sap

Will be around more in second half of the day (p busy today irl) but annika/artic seem like pretty obvious villagers from eod, esp annika

Tbh nothing else changed for me, dya/annika/artic/benneh/waza/stett/pzelda are people i am ~never killing this game. Visor/lissa ill re read durjng today simply cause my read on them is not as strong/clear as the people above. Ender/maple/taffy are my lazy bottom tier atm


Gg sunbae

[nebjiamn]

I forgot this site deletes carrots lmao

its 2 wolves in dya, arctic, taffy, and ender

i understand there is a decent chance sunbae did not die n1 at the hand of the wolves, and thus there's a decent chance he didn't die for his reads, but i'll still note his wolf team here and carry on the torch

particularly he was quite strong on the dya read and i think mildly on the arctic one, so i'm going to reset my reads on them a bit and see what evolves.

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waza, i don't mind you putting me as tinfoil, that's fine

but most of the time when i say "i am out of my wolf range" its a joke and performative or a wink and nod at the camera and whatnot, so i just wanted to say this with total sincerity for once in my life: i am compoletely out of my wolf range. i don't think being postcapped at eod and resorting to active and engaged proxy votes to save arctic/taffy while trying to push out ladd/maple and instead voting a partner suddenly in a flashwagon, even if they are afk, is ever in my wolf range lol

[nebjiamn]

i was pretty confused why earlier in the day you were able to find me so soundly but ladd was not. He seemed to get there at EOD which made me feel not as concerned. He's usually very good at reading me but it felt like he was trying to keep options open earlier

why couldn't he just be a wolf who was getting progressively boxed in by other reads on you?

when you said you cleared him at eod i thought you meant like, actually eod

what's your read on him if you ignore how he's reading you entirely?

[ladd]

i understand there is a decent chance sunbae did not die n1 at the hand of the wolves, and thus there's a decent chance he didn't die for his reads, but i'll still note his wolf team here and carry on the torch

particularly he was quite strong on the dya read and i think mildly on the arctic one, so i'm going to reset my reads on them a bit and see what evolves.

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waza, i don't mind you putting me as tinfoil, that's fine

but most of the time when i say "i am out of my wolf range" its a joke and performative or a wink and nod at the camera and whatnot, so i just wanted to say this with total sincerity for once in my life: i am compoletely out of my wolf range. i don't think being postcapped at eod and resorting to active and engaged proxy votes to save arctic/taffy while trying to push out ladd/maple and instead voting a partner suddenly in a flashwagon, even if they are afk, is ever in my wolf range lol

Check who are their top villareads




Wrt dya i think they have have that 1 post saying they wouldnt wolfread sunbae as a wolf that is just ~clearing levelz for them

Arctic i have a vague tinfoil he started pushing taffy hard after the claim to get some cred knowing taffy would never actually go over but their posting overall is like very good imo

[ladd]

Annika stett Zelda Ben dya arctic

Probs the core I’m rolling with for today

Only tinfoil there is Ben but yeah like I said 99% of the times someone whose approaching the game like Ben is just town. I hate making conditionals like these but yeah if he’s alive in lylo at the very least he should be forced to make the first vote

Lissa visor ladd are all 3 slots that I’ll think about more once I know taffy’s alignment or have a strong sense of it.

Why are you clearing dya(dunno if i missed this one)?

I am confused by how people are reading benneh this game lol

[ladd]

ladd, it's not the amount of solving, it's the quality of it

and tbh, sunbae, if I were a wolf I def wouldn't be voting you d1. I appreciate you too much

Dya just wouldnt make this post as a wolf ~ever

Shrug.jpg

[didistetter]

ngl i'm mostly just waiting on ender and taffy lol.

Waza entrance is fine. I believe the reasoning ig, and the wagon was def last min-ish

Vote: Maple

Think visor is just town for voting with me on rask despite not even having me as town lol. That second is what energized it for annika/ben to join.

I jive w/ ladd's bottom 3 so unless taffy comes in with a super hot super specific giga believable claim

probs not worrying about him unless taffy is legit town

[waza]

Why are you clearing dya(dunno if i missed this one)?

I am confused by how people are reading benneh this game lol

Heh I think you answered your own question in the next post

Dyas sunbae push felt fairly novel at the time, they had other places I imagine wolf them woulda pushed instead. I believe they believed the push. Some stuff they said to you and Ben felt towny

Ben tinfoil is just moreso a backup panic button if the game doesn’t end soon enough. I don’t think he’s a wolf but I’m very biased with his handling of me this game lol. I can go into it more if you like but it probably is ultimately just nothing so I’d rather not open up an avenue for wolves to exploit prematurely

Btw how come u asked me about my dya read considering u already trd dya and me independently

[EnderWiggin]

RIP Sunbae.

I still disagree that Arctic's EOD was specifically towny of em.

But there's enough people who seem to think that was clearing that it can't be just a wolf sentiment echo chamber and I have to consider strongly that I'm just five miles underneath the ground in my tunnel. So I'm gonna ignore Arctic for a bit and come back to it.

I also want to see what Taffy has to say.

I thought Maple had a terrible EOD. (This is definitely a unique viewpoint I see)

I think Benneh/Annika/Stett/Waza are all very towny from that EOD.

Need to get back to work will think more on this later.

[waza]

i understand there is a decent chance sunbae did not die n1 at the hand of the wolves, and thus there's a decent chance he didn't die for his reads, but i'll still note his wolf team here and carry on the torch

particularly he was quite strong on the dya read and i think mildly on the arctic one, so i'm going to reset my reads on them a bit and see what evolves.

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waza, i don't mind you putting me as tinfoil, that's fine

but most of the time when i say "i am out of my wolf range" its a joke and performative or a wink and nod at the camera and whatnot, so i just wanted to say this with total sincerity for once in my life: i am compoletely out of my wolf range. i don't think being postcapped at eod and resorting to active and engaged proxy votes to save arctic/taffy while trying to push out ladd/maple and instead voting a partner suddenly in a flashwagon, even if they are afk, is ever in my wolf range lol

Yeah I get that hence why ur town 99% of the town, I’ll admit if ur a wolf I never seen u play like this before or like most people for that matter lmao. Hence why my read is biased because yeah idk whilst I get ur sus on me and it’s easy to pick up why some of my stuff may look bad in a vacuum there’s some bigger picture stuff with me that I feel like ur not accounting for (atleast that’s how it feels fmpov)

The easy and simple answer is that ur just overburdened by exploring every single angle of info you can get and somewhat overloading yourself/getting lost in the sauce, but that doesn’t stop me from considering the world that you are keeping me in the poe for nefarious reasons too, it’s a natural reaction that I think any villa would have in my shoes. Again if u were some dingo at reading me it would matter less but ur defs in the top tier of people at it. Dya and ladd are both up there and they managed to find me fairly quickly and easy for example

But yeah probs best if we don’t waste too many more posts on this since like I said occams is we are v/v and since we are both the top posters it would be pretty -ev if we both blow our posts counts going back and forth in what is most likely just v/v conundrums

[ladd]

Btw how come u asked me about my dya read considering u already trd dya and me independently

You or artic would be the first 2 people id tinfoil from my top tier and idt dya posting is villagery unless you know them well so was curious why you had them so strongly v



I guess i will re read arctic later to do due diligence etc..

[waza]

You or artic would be the first 2 people id tinfoil from my top tier and idt dya posting is villagery unless you know them well so was curious why you had them so strongly v



I guess i will re read arctic later to do due diligence etc..

Okay yeah I agree with u on the dya part so it’s probs towny for u to be suspicious of that

But yeah I know dya well and hopefully they can confirm that I don’t really misread them often and vice versa (I confirm they don’t misread me often)

[nebjiamn]

Yeah I get that hence why ur town 99% of the town, I’ll admit if ur a wolf I never seen u play like this before or like most people for that matter lmao. Hence why my read is biased because yeah idk whilst I get ur sus on me and it’s easy to pick up why some of my stuff may look bad in a vacuum there’s some bigger picture stuff with me that I feel like ur not accounting for (atleast that’s how it feels fmpov)

The easy and simple answer is that ur just overburdened by exploring every single angle of info you can get and somewhat overloading yourself/getting lost in the sauce, but that doesn’t stop me from considering the world that you are keeping me in the poe for nefarious reasons too, it’s a natural reaction that I think any villa would have in my shoes. Again if u were some dingo at reading me it would matter less but ur defs in the top tier of people at it. Dya and ladd are both up there and they managed to find me fairly quickly and easy for example

But yeah probs best if we don’t waste too many more posts on this since like I said occams is we are v/v and since we are both the top posters it would be pretty -ev if we both blow our posts counts going back and forth in what is most likely just v/v conundrums

to be fair i think you are the overblowing things lol. i don't think i'm overloading myself or getting lost in the sauce so much as i'm just building a POE I think is right and then questioning it as needed

consider this:

-there are 2 wolves left and you are in my bottom 5 (was 6, but then one of them died overnight)

-if my math is right, we presumably have at least 4 collective kills before we reach a lylo situation and altogether we (the collective we) need to build a poe of around 6 players that has both wolves to achieve 'auto.' and some of those POE, if they flip wolf, clear you from my pov, not even accounting any other interactions going forward

-i don't think i've even pressed on you very hard, i just wanted to know why you didn't vote rask and i found your answer relatively satisfactory.

-since the nightkill and other discussions i've been sliding around where some of the people lower in my list mgiht fall, since sunbae's exit necessitates me to at least move 1 person down into a larger poe

so i don't think its unfair for you to think i could be wolf. and it WOULD be fair for you to question the people above you in my poe if you think you shouldn't be in the bottom 6. but i don' tthink its fair to act like i'm in a tunnel or causing wasted posts right now, especially when we're all very much in a wait-and-see mode right now for the wolfiest players to do something

[Arctic]

hai cuties

i agree we should kill in taffy/maple/ender first. i still think taffy's claim is fake so i'll be waiting for clarification there and probably voting her if we don't get any or it isn't satisfactory

i am not a fan of lissa's eod, either, for obvious reasons. but she's still been towny outside of that so meh

i could construct a 6 person poe and it'd probably be taffy/maple/ender/ladd/visor/lissa

but i think if the first 3 contains no wolves then things get a lot more dicey and i'm willing to consider almost anyone, including benneh. a wolf flip in the first three would narrow some things down though, like if taffy flips wolf i wouldn't kill ladd. there's probably some other unpairings here probably but i don't really see a point in focusing on that rn

the only people i'm never killing this game are stett and anni. probably not waza or pzelda either, though.

[Arctic]

also please make sure you save posts for eod lmao, like at least 5-ish

[nebjiamn]

also please make sure you save posts for eod lmao, like at least 5-ish

no u

[waza]

to be fair i think you are the overblowing things lol. i don't think i'm overloading myself or getting lost in the sauce so much as i'm just building a POE I think is right and then questioning it as needed

consider this:

-there are 2 wolves left and you are in my bottom 5 (was 6, but then one of them died overnight)

-if my math is right, we presumably have at least 4 collective kills before we reach a lylo situation and altogether we (the collective we) need to build a poe of around 6 players that has both wolves to achieve 'auto.' and some of those POE, if they flip wolf, clear you from my pov, not even accounting any other interactions going forward

-i don't think i've even pressed on you very hard, i just wanted to know why you didn't vote rask and i found your answer relatively satisfactory.

-since the nightkill and other discussions i've been sliding around where some of the people lower in my list mgiht fall, since sunbae's exit necessitates me to at least move 1 person down into a larger poe

so i don't think its unfair for you to think i could be wolf. and it WOULD be fair for you to question the people above you in my poe if you think you shouldn't be in the bottom 6. but i don' tthink its fair to act like i'm in a tunnel or causing wasted posts right now, especially when we're all very much in a wait-and-see mode right now for the wolfiest players to do something

Yeah I’m not saying ur in a tunnel or wasting posts

My issue is with some more macro stuff, like for example I was pressing you on not finding Annika or Stett town yesterday. Now they’re ur top 2 town, which yeah I agree with. But fmpov relative to ur reads I’ve only townsided so far so it’s just odd to see me at the bottom fmpov. That’s what I been by getting lost in the sauce because yeah if we take away all the weird stuff I done when it comes down to it I defended the people ur calling ur top town and was the only person talking about the slot who we have seen flip wolf so far.

Also I don’t think any of ur posts are wasted but when you see me post something that’s shady or perhaps uncharitable to you, you will be inclined to reply like you just did. Same for me, so I’m not saying any singular post you made is a waste but it’s moreso that since nobody else is here or pushing the game forward much every time we see each other post we are gonna be inclined to reply to point out what we feel is wrong, like you just did and like I am doing now.

And then we wont have enough posts left for eod or to grill the poe slots,

[waza]

Like to clarify I don’t think I should be your top town either because I don’t deserve that either

Somewhere between dya and ender is where I’d expect to be on your list not at the bottom lol

[Arctic]

when it comes down to giving people cred for the rask push i'm kinda at a loss because he was 0 posting and the role seemed not that strong (unless i don't understand it correctly)

especially if taffy ends up being a wolf

i know that either way the easy answer is that wolves would stack on me instead of bussing, but i think it would be a pretty good move to make to get significant towncred without losing much of value (lol)

[Lissa]

rip sunbae, gg

[*]maple's eod was terrible IMO. the omgus on annika wasn't good but even worse to me was the conviction and refusal to reconsider--perhps an unfair read since annika wasn't really re-evaling maple either--but a lot of maple's responses just read like "wolf smells blood, sinks teeth deeper into victim", unfounded confidence powerwolf kinda vibes

idk like, what blood though lol. I can't really figure out what she thought that was accomplishing as a wolf at all? like what on EARTH was the point of that if she is a wolf

taffy claim definitely made eod kinda awkward with the cap/no list. I saw it didn't mention a lift but I never really thought about what that meant. Pre claim I definitely wanted to kill taffy > arctic but I didn't think it was correct to kill the claim d1 so I pivoted arctic even though I wasn't sure I was GIGA into it especially as people I townread were strongly disagreeing, but it was hard to like... talk about it much. I just didn't really know what else to do, killing the 0 poster felt kind of silly and lame. I moved there in the end because I didn't want taffy to go over. idk I felt like I didn't play eod very productively but I felt so stunted I should've saved more posts lol

That said I'm not clearing taffy at all; I think we need more re: the claim today and I agree that in retrospect I can see why people went there at eod? I just didn't think it was correct to kill there d1. I do think this night death and flip does increase odds of her being a wolf somewhat.

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ben stett annika visor pzelda v

then maple and dya are probably v? + waza? Idk I guesssss also arctic?

I didn't find arctic's eod that villagery tbh. I mean it's villagery if taffy is a wolf lol. Otherwise... eh? Feel like I'm missing something. like him going for the pr claim there is a little weird as a wolf regardless but like what was his alternative really?

waza is like almost never a wolf w/ taffy I agree

Lol

Kinda feels like a cheap victory but a lim’s a lim tbh. NGL afk maf makes a lot of sense with general thread vibes and townyness levels.

Waza ending on taffy is something I have to think about, but I doubt he pushes the afk all day shruge.
@nebjiamn is there a way to get the ICs to display order of voting or would that be too pain?

GG sunbae <3 sorry you got n1d tho :(

curious to hear from ladd, maple, ender mostly.

Also nothing bout anticlaim in that flip, sooooo probs time to expand a bit on your role taffy

yeah in retrospect I should've just realized that was what we should do earlier just kinda dumb principle-ish stuff it felt wrong. oops lol