Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Arctic]

I was re reading eod and afaict you were top wagon until :00 when rask got sniped and ender moved off you. Did you intend to claim or were u caught by surprise or wat? Feel like claiming and getting a 1-for- with taffy who u were convknced was a wolf would have been a good trafe off


Anyway ill do a re read of the game in 2-3 hours

rask overtook me at :59

deadline was :01 not :00

i would have tried to claim at :00 if i was still top wagon but i was happy risking it because my role isnt that important

sup

i am interested in your thoughts

why are you sure lissa is town? i don't think they were playing like a villager concerned that town was going to sleepwalk into the maple elim which is someone they were townreading

are you still wolfreading benneh or no?

i think the dya stuff is hard to like, willingly lock someone over so i can kinda get it but i haven't really found them wolfy regardless so i don't see much of a reason to go there

[Visor]

I am not sure Lissa is town

I am actually trending down there

[didistetter]

@pzelda can you describe what exactly about arctic's posting in the last 6 hours you townread? Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.

The lissa and ben reads just don't feel grounded in how they've approached thread at all to me, and his focus and walling about "here's why we kill x instead of me" and then just shrugging off my question when I gave him an alternative to someone I thought did have a pluasibly wolfy reaction to his claim if he is V (you) was weak sauce.

So walk me through it, what exactly about this slush of franeticicsm can you "not help but like?" Especially considering: 983, 987, 1005, and 1007?

[Visor]

Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.

Explain how this is Wolfy lol

Why wouldn't he do that as a village pr

[didistetter]

Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.

Explain how this is Wolfy lol

Why wouldn't he do that as a village pr

becasuse as town PR he knows he's right, thread's wrong, and bad shit is happening.

Using that as a basis to solve gives you a lot of insight, but his posting doesn't at all sound to me like he's actually solving with knowledge he's town attempting to figure out who's pushing him. He made multiple posts arguing why 4 PR makes sense here b/c his role is weak, but he called manti probably fake and diff checked manti/benneh.

The solving around "benneh thought i was vanilla FPSing" and "lissa being performative" just didn't feel real at all to me. Espec with the insta pivot into "lissa uninformed" but back into lissa partnered with ben and then asking ben how lissa is ever uninformed. I've actually struggled a lot with what to make of benneh this game, and it's partially tone/style but none of this strikes me as real solving and the stuff he's vocalizing isn't any of the issue's I've had with ben. Obvi if he's PR that would mean he's probs focus on the claim stuff more, but I it doesn't sound like he's actually gone back through benneh's D1/today to reeval, just pushing what he can latch onto and sell.


a few hedges:

972 was probably the best post from his spiel

He said he would quit posting because people wouldn't care because "he was a PR and biased about pushes on him" but like... most people here absolutely *would* care about that pov, espec once their worldview is shooken up.

He also called himself confirmable tho which ig is technically true, but it reqs using the track on arctic to make sure 1. he visits you, 2. you don't die. In that world we don't mislunch a pr today tho, so it's worth considering.

[Arctic]

becasuse as town PR he knows he's right, thread's wrong, and bad shit is happening.

Using that as a basis to solve gives you a lot of insight, but his posting doesn't at all sound to me like he's actually solving with knowledge he's town attempting to figure out who's pushing him. He made multiple posts arguing why 4 PR makes sense here b/c his role is weak, but he called manti probably fake and diff checked manti/benneh.

The solving around "benneh thought i was vanilla FPSing" and "lissa being performative" just didn't feel real at all to me. Espec with the insta pivot into "lissa uninformed" but back into lissa partnered with ben and then asking ben how lissa is ever uninformed. I've actually struggled a lot with what to make of benneh this game, and it's partially tone/style but none of this strikes me as real solving and the stuff he's vocalizing isn't any of the issue's I've had with ben. Obvi if he's PR that would mean he's probs focus on the claim stuff more, but I it doesn't sound like he's actually gone back through benneh's D1/today to reeval, just pushing what he can latch onto and sell.


a few hedges:

972 was probably the best post from his spiel

He said he would quit posting because people wouldn't care because "he was a PR and biased about pushes on him" but like... most people here absolutely *would* care about that pov, espec once their worldview is shooken up.

He also called himself confirmable tho which ig is technically true, but it reqs using the track on arctic to make sure 1. he visits you, 2. you don't die. In that world we don't mislunch a pr today tho, so it's worth considering.

how have i not been solving who is pushing me in good faith / bad faith

that makes up at least half of my posts since i came back

it is in fact exactly what i am doing - with benneh, with lissa, with pzelda, with annika, with ladd

you can say it's bad if you want but i'm still trying lol

i am not inclined to believe people will care about my pov with how much my reads are being discredited with "you are biased" right in front of my face, evidently i am more capable of reading the room than you are of reading my posts

[Arctic]

@pzelda can you describe what exactly about arctic's posting in the last 6 hours you townread? Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.

The lissa and ben reads just don't feel grounded in how they've approached thread at all to me, and his focus and walling about "here's why we kill x instead of me" and then just shrugging off my question when I gave him an alternative to someone I thought did have a pluasibly wolfy reaction to his claim if he is V (you) was weak sauce.

So walk me through it, what exactly about this slush of franeticicsm can you "not help but like?" Especially considering: 983, 987, 1005, and 1007?

i'm shrugging it off because i don't really think the guy is a wolf

it is obvious that i am not trying to kill anyone except myself because i have given two specific targets who no one else wants

what exactly do you expect me to do

my read on benneh is based on objective information and i don't townread his posts today

my read on lissa is more up to debate, but as far as i can tell it is true. she has not meaningfully suggested who a wolf is pre-benneh's post about me

[Visor]

I could see both of them as wolves

I think benneh has tried to overpower you today rather than come to the right answer

And I just feel like Lissa is approaching things like she just did in her recent game

Too many other things to weigh up though

But I can definitely see it

[pzelda]

@pzelda can you describe what exactly about arctic's posting in the last 6 hours you townread? Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.

The lissa and ben reads just don't feel grounded in how they've approached thread at all to me, and his focus and walling about "here's why we kill x instead of me" and then just shrugging off my question when I gave him an alternative to someone I thought did have a pluasibly wolfy reaction to his claim if he is V (you) was weak sauce.

So walk me through it, what exactly about this slush of franeticicsm can you "not help but like?" Especially considering: 983, 987, 1005, and 1007?

The problem of playing the game while also doing something else is that I tend to forget details. So, let's focus on broader stokes. The first thing I liked is that Arctic came back and started fighting. And tbh his posts are quite contentful. If mafia, he's quite confident in his skill to sway us away.
I agree that his Lissa and Ben reads are a weak salsa. I was thinking about that while writing the previous lines and I hope I'm not creating a narrative here. For w!Arctic targeting Benneh or Lissa would be an obvious strategy here. Their death would mean a removal of a strong town player. It would be a win win for an evil Arctic. They would stay alive longer, remove a threat and get another chance to thrive.
If Arctic is V, I see some logic in pushing the people who push you.

Also, the bus driver is driving like crazy, honking his way through traffic.

[waza]

Ya my gut still tells me it’s not dya

So if Arctic flips wolf - we have a misclear
If Arctic flips town - we have more than a misclear lmao

Hoping for the latter since that sounds more fun

[waza]

If it is the latter maple friendo you should probs start working on your next fake claim from now lols