Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Lissa]

Can you go more into Zelda and stett reads for me

of course

Ender writing this kinda makes me thing he's just a villa.

so this one is pretty minor, but this was a weird read, in retrospect it feels like some sort of tmi-y thing where he thinks ender has made himself look villagery by it and is trying to get ahead of it

I think what made me post this was the part about Lissa. It just felt like a good evaluation.

this was also kinda nonsense. saying I was less clear than the other rask voters? pretty obvious and surface level

I find it more likely coming from not a wolf (in a pack) mind. It's that kind of post explaining something a different player maybe wanted to hold back.
But thinking about it some more, it might be a wolf using another player to create a narrative and to wifom.

Ok, I guess It's not the best post to read into.

yeah idk this kinda just seems like he realized he had tmi in the other post lol

I'm still catching up. Arctic reaction to the claim is weird? It feels like overreacting, I noted it, but I don't read into it too much.
The more interesting stuff is benneh opening the game again and Visor trying to open the game and trying to steer away from Maple. There's something he dislikes. I'm not sure if it's that the focus feels too narrow or that he would prefer to open the game and avoid the yeet.

Ok, that claim seemed to be weird tbh. Kuddos to Ladd pointing it out first.
The worst thing about splitting a redirector would be that you would have 4 claims for town to clear. I wouldn't mind discussing Maple's claim a little further.

I'm out of time now, but I'll be back for the eod and I want to discuss more than claims.

this is a BIG thing I thought was off. specifically too, this and combined with his following series of posts:

I feel a little bit lazy, but I don't think there's a reason to revisit most of my reads.

Benneh/waza/stett/Dya/Lissa/Taffy - town

Visor - very likely town. I think he might be someone to talk about some more, but if Arctic flips red, he's basically cleared. That early push from Arctic wasn't bussing IMHO. And the track is real in that case.
Ladd - it just feels like the guy's town
Annika - multiple players have her locked town. I don't quite see the reason, but I'm comfortable rolling with the consensus.
Maple - I'm locking him villa if Arctic flips red.

Ender - Ok, I think town, but I also think I should keep an eye on him. I wouldn't clear him for pushing Arctic and I would check how Arctic pushed back.

Vote: Arctic

The thing about not pushing his case here triggers me a little.
Btw let's just work on an assumption Arctic flips red.

Can you go more into Zelda and stett reads for me

he completely glossed over the actual reason arctic was treated as outed at first, and then went on to also go along with treating him as outed

obviously I'm not saying that treating him as outed was wolfy. his progression to it was REALLY bad. I don't think he ever acknowledged the actual core reason that arctic became "outed". He talked about a BUNCH of other stuff w/r/t arctic but seemed completely unable to talk about the actual centerpiece of what had put him in the position he was in.

that's one of my biggest things, his while perspective/pov around arctic was really weird, like he knew arctic was gonna flip villa and then tried to compensate in a really awkward way

[Lissa]

So u think me and maple are w/w and I ended eod by asking maple to be invited and gave you a chance to cw them with me to which you replied “maple is just town” when I could simple just not offer that and vote either you or ender if that was v/v wagons

Anyways lol I don’t know what else to say to that other than lol

But yeah talk more about why Stett is town and your Zelda read, I’m curious on those. Preflip me town for a second and solve there

I mean I think it was pretty clear that maple wasn't ever actually going to go over there. No matter what I did. So feels kinda performative?

Wish I'd seen what she was doing then instead of afterward but I'm not sure it really would have changed much of anything.

But yeah I mean it's certainly possible I am wrong re: you. I just talked about pzelda a chunk, will a bit more, and will stett as well momentarily

[dyachei]

What makes you sure she’s wolf now? Just Enders flip or how did you process it ig


also dya, I found you early on d1, I’m not relying on ladds read for anything. I am frustrated that’s been a point of contention with regard to discussing your slot more than anything cause I’ve toenrrad nearly everything you had besides last nights eod

talk me thru who it is fypov if it’s not just lissa/maple, cause that means we have a misclear that’s pretty deep in the towncore and you have a pretty decent view of the game in that world

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

[Lissa]

I was thinking about this and having two half lightning rods and a bomber makes more sense than one half redirector, one bomber and an inventor with a possibility to clear more players. Or does it not?

I can't help myself I like Arctic based on their recent posts. If they really are mafia, this is a bold offensive (tbh @Arctic I used phrases such as "if they flip wolf" in my post claim comments). Before the claim my feeling was that
Also, why would Arctic claim there as a wolf? It would be risky as there could be a cc. The only option would be they were a wolf redirector and I can't see why would anyone put that role in.
Ofc that leads to me thinking about Benneh. Mostly, because I think he should be one of these players pointing out that slips don't exist. At least I believe so.
I'm not jumping to conclusions just ruminating my options for the rest of D2.

So, let's get back to it.
First, let's talk about claims a little bit further. Taffy's almost always real. I think they got rather towny before eod too and their claim just makes sense. Now, would it make sense for them to soft if they were mafia? Mayhaps. Would a setting with two redirectors and an inventor be balanced with a mafia bomber? It sounds quite balanced to me, but mafia wouldn't need a defuser. So, they're town 9 times out of ten with a slight possibility of being a lost wolf or a 3p.
Now let's talk about the inventor. I think I would like to know details on what can the role invent outside of 1x track. Town inventor is possibly swingy tbh. Mafia inventor possibly too. It can be quite powerful if used well as it has a chance to clear others. So far it works as an investigative role. The setup with two half redirectors and a bomber against a diffuser and a inventor sounds pro-towm tbh.
Now, I think the worst thing about Arctic's claim isn't a balancing issue. But the way they hinted at being vanilla and that they actually claimed it. And if the claim is real an even night redirector would make some sense as a mafia role. For example redirecting the track or the inventor's gift. So, it's the weakest claim even without that slip.
Like Arctic is the only claim I'm willing to vote.
When I'm back I will check their actual posts.

The problem of playing the game while also doing something else is that I tend to forget details. So, let's focus on broader stokes. The first thing I liked is that Arctic came back and started fighting. And tbh his posts are quite contentful. If mafia, he's quite confident in his skill to sway us away.
I agree that his Lissa and Ben reads are a weak salsa. I was thinking about that while writing the previous lines and I hope I'm not creating a narrative here. For w!Arctic targeting Benneh or Lissa would be an obvious strategy here. Their death would mean a removal of a strong town player. It would be a win win for an evil Arctic. They would stay alive longer, remove a threat and get another chance to thrive.
If Arctic is V, I see some logic in pushing the people who push you.

Also, the bus driver is driving like crazy, honking his way through traffic.

Why is Annika in towncores again I don't like the tone here.

Also, to give this post another purpose. Let's discuss an option of Arctic not being a wolf. If Arctic's real and town, who is Mafia?

I might feel alien because I haven't been able to properly get the feel for the game today. Esp, after the claim. I believe Benneh, but I also had some doubts. Now, I'm back to almost blidnly trusting him. And that means trusting Lissa too. The thing with Benneh is that I not only read him as town I trust him enough to sheep him and to keep my vote on Arctic. You might have noticed that I was exploring some options, but I kept my vote firmly on Arctic.

like he NEVER F'ING ACKNOWLEDGES the ACTUAL reason arctic was the core focus in the way he was, the reason he was "outed", he talks about literally everything else except for kind of acknowledging benneh for it way late and weirdly

[waza]

Hmmm thanks for that

I planned to reread Zelda anyways so any thoughts there help, after writing all that out do you feel more confident in your tinfoil there or still about the same as when you started? Is there anything you find towny from them? Also why u sure on stett town? You accuse Zelda of having tmi on you, why wouldn’t Stett be the same? If you are town surely wolves would have nk’d her right?

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1715

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
3	Lissa	Visor (7), didistetter (6), waza (13)
7	Not Voting	Lissa (5), Maple (6), Totally not Taffy (0), dyachei (6), nebjiamn (15), pzelda (0)

[Lissa]

Hmmm thanks for that

I planned to reread Zelda anyways so any thoughts there help, after writing all that out do you feel more confident in your tinfoil there or still about the same as when you started? Is there anything you find towny from them? Also why u sure on stett town? You accuse Zelda of having tmi on you, why wouldn’t Stett be the same? If you are town surely wolves would have nk’d her right?

yeah writing it out definitely made me feel more strongly about it and I'm wondering if maybe you are actually a villa and it is maple/zelda

some elements of their desync with the thread and some of their thoughts based on that have felt kinda villagery, but it doesn't really feel like a super strong thing at this point. I remember thinking they made some super villagery posts on d1, but I didn't feel the same about them when I looked again.

re: stett's read on me

my dude, do you know what context is

have you heard the word

have you never considered the concept that something that's technically the same thing distilled down to its core can be so wildly different as to not really be a meaningful comparison

I don't understand the comparison you seem to be trying to make. my issue with zelda very much comes down to the specifics of the read, it's not that I think townreading me is just inherently tmi?? he made a really ~lock town read on me yesterday, for reasons I don't think merited or progressed logically to a ~lock town read. the strength of the read mismatched the read really hard in a way that felt out of place

stett's handling of me on the other hand has felt far more natural and nuanced. she's also just made like, a lot of villagery posts. her thoughts on the game in general feel like they have continued to develop organically? idk she's just kinda obviously town imo. there's any number of reasons wolves could have chosen not to kill her, but if you mean last night specifically, she was pretty openly wavering on me at points.

[Lissa]

i'm increasingly kinda thinking you are maybe just a villager and we just think about certain things extremely differently tbh

[waza]

I get that context matters, that’s essentially what I’m asking you lol

What was the difference betweeen the context of stetts handling of you vs Zelda’s

Like yeah I get the idea that Zelda’s lock tr in you is weird and maybe ur right the build up is unjustified

I also think that stett entering the game saying she faked all her reads and u being her only real tr is weird too, given there were much more townier slots present at sod, do you think that’s fair?

I agree she has villagery posts, are you certain she’s never a wolf? Has she reached that point where she is beyond tinfoil to you? If so, why do you think she’s out of wolfrange

[Lissa]

I get that context matters, that’s essentially what I’m asking you lol

What was the difference betweeen the context of stetts handling of you vs Zelda’s

Like yeah I get the idea that Zelda’s lock tr in you is weird and maybe ur right the build up is unjustified

I also think that stett entering the game saying she faked all her reads and u being her only real tr is weird too, given there were much more townier slots present at sod, do you think that’s fair?

I agree she has villagery posts, are you certain she’s never a wolf? Has she reached that point where she is beyond tinfoil to you? If so, why do you think she’s out of wolfrange

oh stett's SoD1 with the fake reads thing was super weird I agree. I just don't really care that much about it given the rest of her posting? idk like why did she do that as a wolf lol. I mean... you could level some and you could also think that she was doing it because she was struggling otherwise, but given the rest of her gameplay I don't think that holds up. it's all kinda levels in the end I've long stopped putting a lot of thought into that particular thing or weight in it in any direction

re: me being her only townread at sod, certainly I agree there were other pretty towny slots at sod but I don't think it's that out there, given she knew the situation of the wolf mash I was coming from and in more than surface detail? it makes sense for me to be one of the people she's paying most attention to knowing how freshly I was coming out of that game imo

I don't know if I'd quite say never but she is a pretty strong townread. I think it's extremely probable that she is out of wolfrange; she's on a similar level of read to benneh for me. I think that the twists and turns of her posting and the uhh kind of like emotional flow? for lack of a better word would be very very hard for her to fake this well.

[waza]

Kk thanks that makes sense I think you explained everything I wanted to

Last point you mentioned stetts read on you is nuanced, I may have missed it but can you point to examples of her posts that express nuance in the way she’s been reading you and shows that she has been actively evaluating you

[Lissa]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I'm not gonna be uselessly spreading or exploring paranoia, but I'm probably not taking super many people as face value villager.
@Totally not Taffy who did you douse and why?
@Maple i recognize you won't be around for a bit, but can you explain your eod approach please? Because it def felt like trying to snap on taffy given annika/I were defending arctic to leave arctic for a later possible lim.
@Lissa i want to hear your worldview.

don't overthink this, don't worry about it, frankly ignore it. i want to see what maple and taffy and lissa post.

Vote: benben

gngn

i agree that your eod felt towny.

I think my problem is: the bit of ate d2 kinda shook me, and I 10000% you would have those emotions as town, but it kinda threw me back to indie mash where, when i solved around you I was mostly right, but when i fell for a ate moment and started solving with you you were indeed wolf and you stated talking me out of all my correct scumreads.

I think the problem i'm really struggling with rn is:
maple is making herself impossible to find by just tunneling taffy for the most part and being bored with the game. It's hard for me to process.
I think both pzelda and ender have been towny. I think lissa has fallen off and i really struggled with her handling of arctic yesterday.
I kinda have you/ladd as both sounding good and speaking well, but I struggle hard with the directions yall take.

Like
Ladd pushed taffy D1 and a bit D2.
He's now pushing maple as wolf and ender as second wolf.
Maybe this is another stett is bad and wrong and needs to stfu like a good girl moment but... Realistically i see a world that's three town. And his strong defense of you is pinging me, b/c i'm not sure if it's just correct, if it's pockety, or if it actually does have pair equity.

I also, no shade, really really didn't like his catchup posts "relooking" at the whole game yesterday, and the thoughts felt kinda shallow/performative.

This is an incredibly fucking stupid thing to be worried about but i didn't like your post questioning me on why I asked about millers b/c it kinda feels like you'd normally say "lol stett is softing cop and is vt, polarized noob L"... but maybe that means you're uninformed

I do agree that you seemed down to kill ladd eod1, but it's hard to full eval when you were postcapped so it's mostly vote swinging. I'm p sure I also explicitly said I didn't actually want to kill ladd while he was AFK for being seemingly wrong on Taffy, so im not sure how much juice that actually had.

It's more my concern now that you're focusing on maple, who doesn't seem particularly fussed to play the game, than ladd: who fits more into the profile of a maf in this gamestate to me

anyways i appreciate you and im sorry if it feels like I've been stonewalling you. I'm kinda bad at doing like... big dissection solvy wally posts nowadays.

vote: ladd

Vote: Lissa

Sunbae tr ladd and lissa, and one wolf in ben/dya/waza
Arctic tr ladd and dya, and SR ben and lissa
Annika had poe of Lissa/Ladd/Ender/Dya but didn't vote on dya and also kinda tr ladd and thought maple towntold

bruh idfk lol
@annika @Arctic why didn't yall vote dya with me yesterdayyyyyy -_-

i'd kinda prefer to elim ender over lissa.

Read back ender's iso and i was giving him too much credit for some casual/shitposty stuff that vibed like decent tone and confidence, and even though i don't love Lissa's reaction to arctic/encouraging of ben's sus on arctic misreading his role, and it sucks she's been so afk this phase, i still think she has some ok moments where she just kinda feels ?fine? towny? dunno.

id probs prefer ender -> lissa -> maple

Biggest issue with manti is the fact she claimed at all. It rlly could equally be a wolf role made to give towncred or a town investigative role.
If we have town/3p arso, town inventor, and odd/even redirectbodyguards i really would expect wolf kp tho so... we might be working with pretty narrow chances to get this right

multiquote is being SUPER BORKED and it also won't let me normal quote anything new so posting this half in the hopes it'll fix it wowee

[Lissa]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Ender I didn't end up like.. casing them b/c i have such weird mixxed feelings on all three of ladd/waza/benneh, and im struggling to separate paranoia from intuition. I've kinda just been cycling through posts and rereading, and it just leaves me more confused. Ladd's indignation feels town but his direction confuses me. Ben's ate and frustration and "aha" moments feel towny but some of his mech stuff confuses me. waza is being incredibly try hard and invested, and i've never seen him wolf like that, but i've never seem him wolf outside of mash/turbo context.

I would still vote you before lissa or maple.
Maple's role is verifiable even if her alignment isnt.
Lissa has some micro towny posts.

The argument rask is lost wolf is nonsense lol.
Bomb diffusal for maf makes sense with a town bomber or a LW bomber. they shield the mafia, and the reason to find out if shield missed is b/c of stuff like maple's JK invention.

regardless, taffy/maple probably aren't w/w together with how they've navigated each other, so that's still a dif wolf.

I'd vote ender today, or lissa if yall refuse to kill ender. Not going maple.

I don't think lissa is a wolf.

Maybe i'm bad.

Maybe i'm correct.

Maybe I have TMI.
@Lissa if you're town and survive the day we need you to be as present as you can

I am going to lobby for voted on ender here please, i think lissa is towny still

vote: waza

i don't like your posting towards lissa rn.

i don't like those posts either from u tho either lissa :wowee:

he doesn't need to bury you here what your voters are all afk

Vote: Unvote

ya lol those lissa posts were bad

yeah

idk

ender's final post also felt kinda towny, and i'm rolling back through waza's ISO and he wouldn't be with ender.

I think if i push ender out and he's v tommorow is just maple vs. lissa again and if that's v/v we're cooked

what's your direction tomorrow when lissa flips v?

ew.

w/e waza.

Vote: lissa

here have your townflip.

feels like a wolf win

vote: ender

i should just stayed on lissa bleh.

probably my bad. sorry

(apparently you can't have more than 6 posts multiquoted at once)

[nebjiamn]

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

honestly i'm not super sure, if i had a dayvig i'd kill maple here cause i sorta see them a bit unpaired and i think maples been more wolfy overall, but lissa's eod stunk a lot

like IMO maple's eod2 (and eod1) was just overt wolfing whereas lissa only has 1 eod as an overt wolf (pre-emptively gonna say her EOD1 was just sorta wolfy, not quite overt levels)


having said that, i townread visor a lot and ladd just died and i think those two things specifically point to lissa a lot



what generous gift did manti bestow upon you today

[Maple]

you seem pretty sure and you caught her last game. You also are my top villager. Im not just sheeping, i think she fits as a possible wolf, too

Idk why maple targeted me last night tbh

Thought you were both v and unlikely to die in the night

[Maple]

If lissa's a wolf I'll take the L on that man idk she doesnt post THAT good as wolf

but the way visor put it of the waza push being some mash-like overextension at EoD is like kinda real tho esp since shes wolf so much in mashes, i can see the vision

meow meow

apparently i deserve to feel so unconfident in my reads, i need to go over stuff again and start back over

someone call me an idiot for v reading like benneh, dya, stett or smth i keep closing my PoE and not liking the results

[Maple]

nah fuck it

vote: taffy

[Maple]

Sticking with my dya read I think.

[didistetter]

;-;

lissa post good waza post weird maple feels borderline trolling for giving dya an invention and continuing to tunnel taffy

vote: maple

maple who tf is taffy's partner and wtf would setup be

[Maple]

Bro wtf do you mean why is giving dya an invention trolling they're probably just village do you want me to give it.to nl when he seemed like he could plausibly die? Like genuinely what do you want out of my role literally no one gave me input on it so I gave it to a v read

Taff is just.never v here idc if she flips wolf I'm a fucking legend but frankly I expect a 3p flip like I don't believe for a second taff just *holsters* on n2 no way like idk ignore all the other bs taff isn't posting villagery, unlike almost everyone in the game, and the claim is straight up nonsense. From the shit d2, to n2, then there just being a whole airball and pushing me on d3 like I GENUINLY don't know what you want from me stett she's not a fucking villager let's just kill her

Like oh who are the wolves

Nl had me at sod, I accepted my read was dog and lissa isnjust a wolf and waza must therefore be a villager but she comes out SWINGING with these posts fltoday

Like

From her pov I TOTALLY understand the me/waza read it actually makes total logical sense especially the like stuff about how I treat villagers jn mashes and it sucks because the read makes sense and her posts are villahery and I just don't know what to think anymore!

I still trust nl. He had a couple posts to me that like if he's a wolf I never see him fake that exasperation like idk I genuinely feel bad that he finds me so annoying this game it sucks.

And benneh powerwolfed arctic out of the game, that happened I don't understand the revisionist history bs getting thrown around wrt what happened on d2. And it HAPPENED but he probably isn't even a wolf! He idk it makes sense for him to see that, bite into it, maul arcticnto death, and just have to deal with the consequences and like idk his povnon rask + his handling of eod1 is SO unpairing like idk I don't get *why* you fake that on a 0 poster who is obviously 2 minutes away from getting subbed outnjust fucjing kill me or ladd like what thatbwas the only conflicted wagon right? Like everyone else has ripped v. So he's just a villager dude.

Fuck I don't know like who ARE the wolves stett I'm reading and rereading and doing my best but I'm just not that good anymore and in a lobby with players like this idk just being able to call people v and be correct sometimes isn't good enough

[Maple]

Idk dude

I'm not trolling

[waza]

@didistetter can you tldr the wolfcase you wanted to make on me d1

[waza]

Bro wtf do you mean why is giving dya an invention trolling they're probably just village do you want me to give it.to nl when he seemed like he could plausibly die? Like genuinely what do you want out of my role literally no one gave me input on it so I gave it to a v read

Taff is just.never v here idc if she flips wolf I'm a fucking legend but frankly I expect a 3p flip like I don't believe for a second taff just *holsters* on n2 no way like idk ignore all the other bs taff isn't posting villagery, unlike almost everyone in the game, and the claim is straight up nonsense. From the shit d2, to n2, then there just being a whole airball and pushing me on d3 like I GENUINLY don't know what you want from me stett she's not a fucking villager let's just kill her

Like oh who are the wolves

Nl had me at sod, I accepted my read was dog and lissa isnjust a wolf and waza must therefore be a villager but she comes out SWINGING with these posts fltoday

Like

From her pov I TOTALLY understand the me/waza read it actually makes total logical sense especially the like stuff about how I treat villagers jn mashes and it sucks because the read makes sense and her posts are villahery and I just don't know what to think anymore!

I still trust nl. He had a couple posts to me that like if he's a wolf I never see him fake that exasperation like idk I genuinely feel bad that he finds me so annoying this game it sucks.

And benneh powerwolfed arctic out of the game, that happened I don't understand the revisionist history bs getting thrown around wrt what happened on d2. And it HAPPENED but he probably isn't even a wolf! He idk it makes sense for him to see that, bite into it, maul arcticnto death, and just have to deal with the consequences and like idk his povnon rask + his handling of eod1 is SO unpairing like idk I don't get *why* you fake that on a 0 poster who is obviously 2 minutes away from getting subbed outnjust fucjing kill me or ladd like what thatbwas the only conflicted wagon right? Like everyone else has ripped v. So he's just a villager dude.

Fuck I don't know like who ARE the wolves stett I'm reading and rereading and doing my best but I'm just not that good anymore and in a lobby with players like this idk just being able to call people v and be correct sometimes isn't good enough

Tbf u didn’t ask for input and when I suggested we leash you on d2 you were against the idea

Oddly enough to your credit I think the continual tunnel on taffy might be slightly villagery because it’s like beating a dead horse in the shape that a villa might be more likely to do so esp since it keeps making people scumread you more for it.

Idk I think it’s reasonable for town!maple to be wary of taffy’s claim, like its strange that redirector which is a pretty weak role was broken up into two roles with an odd version and an even version, whereas inventor and arson being able to act every night, doesn’t really make sense for all of them to be town but eh maybe I’m missing stuff that can help possibly justify that

[Lissa]

nah fuck it

vote: taffy

i really cannot comprehend why you keep putting so much of your focus here

[Lissa]

;-;

lissa post good waza post weird maple feels borderline trolling for giving dya an invention and continuing to tunnel taffy

vote: maple

maple who tf is taffy's partner and wtf would setup be

dya seems like a pretty reasonable target tbh. i feel like i'd target dya with something like that here maybe?

the taffy stuff is pretty ridiculous though

honestly i kinda wonder if maple like

is doing this as a wolf b/c the wolfteam has a real neutral read or even possibly some sort of mechanical info pointing to it being the case on taffy lol

cause otherwise it seems like such a weird tack to take

[Lissa]

Tbf u didn’t ask for input and when I suggested we leash you on d2 you were against the idea

Oddly enough to your credit I think the continual tunnel on taffy might be slightly villagery because it’s like beating a dead horse in the shape that a villa might be more likely to do so esp since it keeps making people scumread you more for it.

Idk I think it’s reasonable for town!maple to be wary of taffy’s claim, like its strange that redirector which is a pretty weak role was broken up into two roles with an odd version and an even version, whereas inventor and arson being able to act every night, doesn’t really make sense for all of them to be town but eh maybe I’m missing stuff that can help possibly justify that

i mean i do think taffy has pretty real neutral equity lol

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: Lissa

I tried to strap a bomb to her last night but failed

I haven't read yet but what I want to do today is make a case on why I think Stett could be a wolf and then all you diehard Stett-town-readers can tell me why it's wrong

I'm really sore that Ladd made zero attempt to help me find Dyachei

Taffy (1)

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: Lissa

I tried to strap a bomb to her last night but failed

I haven't read yet but what I want to do today is make a case on why I think Stett could be a wolf and then all you diehard Stett-town-readers can tell me why it's wrong

I'm really sore that Ladd made zero attempt to help me find Dyachei

Taffy (1)

I will also not really be here until... tonight (rl) bc I'm having a busy day

Taffy (2)

[waza]

Vote: Lissa

I tried to strap a bomb to her last night but failed

I haven't read yet but what I want to do today is make a case on why I think Stett could be a wolf and then all you diehard Stett-town-readers can tell me why it's wrong

I'm really sore that Ladd made zero attempt to help me find Dyachei

Taffy (1)

@Totally not Taffy

Wdym you tried and failed? How are you aware that it failed? Is that part of ur role? Ngl I haven’t event read ur claim yet lmao or most of the claims I was just going off what people said in thread so if the answer is already in ur original claim then it’s okay I’ll probs figure it out eventually

[didistetter]

@didistetter can you tldr the wolfcase you wanted to make on me d1

uh, no lol

you told me not to so i didn't, that was 10 days ago

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