Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[didistetter]

@Totally not Taffy

Wdym you tried and failed? How are you aware that it failed? Is that part of ur role? Ngl I haven’t event read ur claim yet lmao or most of the claims I was just going off what people said in thread so if the answer is already in ur original claim then it’s okay I’ll probs figure it out eventually

I jailkept lissa last night so fyi this means that maple's inventions do work i think?

[didistetter]

I jailkept lissa last night so fyi this means that maple's inventions do work i think?

could still be a disloyal scenario, but if taffy legit got feedback it failed that means my jail was successful

[didistetter]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 1 - Votes from post 1 through 669

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
5	Raskolnikov	Lissa (51), Visor (51), annika (51), didistetter (50), nebjiamn (55)
3	Totally not Taffy	Arctic (49), ladd (34), waza (56)
2	Sunbae	dyachei (20), pzelda (51)
1	Arctic	Totally not Taffy (35)
1	Maple	EnderWiggin (55)
1	dyachei	Sunbae (44)
1	annika	Maple (50)
1	Not Voting	Raskolnikov (0)

Day 1 is over. Rask has been yeeted.

blehhhhh i've decided a lim on an afks wolf is scum sided actually

@Totally not Taffy you're saying you get feedback on whether your bomb planting is successful or not??

[didistetter]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 1 - Votes from post 1 through 656

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
4	Totally not Taffy	Arctic (48), Visor (50), ladd (34), waza (56)
3	Arctic	EnderWiggin (54), Lissa (49), Totally not Taffy (35)
2	Sunbae	dyachei (20), pzelda (51)
1	ladd	nebjiamn (53)
1	Maple	annika (49)
1	dyachei	Sunbae (43)
1	annika	Maple (49)
1	Raskolnikov	didistetter (50)
1	Not Voting	Raskolnikov (0)

i'm pretending if i stare at this it will make the game make sense

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1744

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
3	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (7), waza (18)
1	Totally not Taffy	Maple (12)
6	Not Voting	Lissa (13), didistetter (12), dyachei (6), nebjiamn (16), pzelda (0)

[didistetter]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1744

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
3	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (7), waza (18)
1	Totally not Taffy	Maple (12)
6	Not Voting	Lissa (13), didistetter (12), dyachei (6), ladd (0), nebjiamn (16), pzelda (0)

@ladd ur still alive gg

[pzelda]

Taffy if u want u can ignite Stett

Lissa will keep surviving and killing town if she has int’ing villas to powerwolf for her, if you take away the int’ers you take away her power

We lose these games because people struggle to work as a team

No idea how people kept circling around me and ladd today when the only confirmed villas (sunbae Arctic Annika) all had us as top town

And when I dare to prevent Stett from jailkeeping the obvious town pr I get voted lol


But yeah taffy ignite lissa or Stett

If you get jail kept then just vote out Stett tomorrow

to be frank, wazas eod was a touch strange

but lissas reaction was so bad i dont care

i think it is a lissa/dya wolf team

Vote: lissa

I've just came to taht conclusion after seeing the flip and the wagons. Also, I believe ladd had at least one good wolf read. Lissa just makes sense as a wolf here. It's not my read, but I think it makes sense.
Dya makes a certain amount of sense too.

Vote: lissa

[pzelda]

Sorry, I forgot to clean my multiquote. I put these waza posts in there yesterday, while reading the eod. I think I found them wolfy, but I actually seems them as towny now and bringing up stett was interesting and I guess they would make some sense as w/w with lissa.
I think the salt in the first post is towny.

[pzelda]

i find some of his posts hard to fake from a wolf pov. asking a town PR to ignite stett for throwing is amazing work if wolf. i think it'd be hard as hell to assume as wolf that you'd need to get that heated to match your town emotions in that moment

Yeah, that's the same point. I agree.

[pzelda]

like he NEVER F'ING ACKNOWLEDGES the ACTUAL reason arctic was the core focus in the way he was, the reason he was "outed", he talks about literally everything else except for kind of acknowledging benneh for it way late and weirdly

I knew about Benneh's post. Idk how to explain my activity there. It was something I took into account. It's why I was sitting on Arctic (mostly). It was my reason for talking about arctic and their claim a lot. I probably would move my vote and my focus more otherwise, because there were moments I found villa (esp. from "an outed wolf") like the level of activity and them trying to leave legacy.

[pzelda]

i'm increasingly kinda thinking you are maybe just a villager and we just think about certain things extremely differently tbh

This might be an actual case of lissa trying to pocket waza tbh.
Btw I like waza's lizza/stett comments.

[dyachei]

Ben it's a form of cop but I won't say what type.

Pzelda you seemed so sure I was a villager until yesterday and now you're OK with me dying and this is weirding me out a lot

[pzelda]

Ben it's a form of cop but I won't say what type.

Pzelda you seemed so sure I was a villager until yesterday and now you're OK with me dying and this is weirding me out a lot

If you follow my posts, you know I change my takes a lot. On d3 I went from townreading you to scumleaning you to townreading you again. I admit I struggle a little bit trusting my own reads at this point.
Also, my main take yesterday that there's at least one wolf in you/waza/visor/ladd seems to be wrong without you being a wolf. I'm willing to accept that but I feel like I need to see more from you today than questioning people for not finding you.

[dyachei]

If you follow my posts, you know I change my takes a lot. On d3 I went from townreading you to scumleaning you to townreading you again. I admit I struggle a little bit trusting my own reads at this point.
Also, my main take yesterday that there's at least one wolf in you/waza/visor/ladd seems to be wrong without you being a wolf. I'm willing to accept that but I feel like I need to see more from you today than questioning people for not finding you.

I did a lot more than that yesterday and it didn't seem to register with you so please excuse my skepticism there.

[pzelda]

I agree with some other players on one wolf in Benneh/Lissa. It just makes sense at this point with the way the thread felt for the last two days. Btw I think the post cap makes it a little bit harder to read Benneh. But I think he should be town for multiple reasons. When he's active the thread s moving forward. When he's out of posts it becomes stale. I think Visor and waza are the players who have been trying to move the thread the most in Benneh's absence.

I don't usually read too much into nks, but I wonder what's the game here. Ladd wasn't super active and his reads were quite consensus. Annika wasn't universally townread. At the end of d2 I actually started suspecting them..but I also don't think these are random or heroic nks. One or both of the wolves probably had reasons to kill them over other players.

Also, I think Maple can be town. I had this opinion before and I'm kind of sticking to it now. I don't want to vote him myself today. I think his Taffy case holds some water. Taffy def is the player with the lowest effort to solve the game.

Now, lets talk about the jk on Lissa. It is real. All three of Stett, Lissa and Taffy can't be mafia. It means there was another player carrying the nk. It couldn't be Lissa. Stett targeting Lissa and killing Ladd makes certain amount of sense. Lissa getting a message that they were jailkept and Taffy actually dousing someone else seems like stretching, but it's a possibility. Lissa and someone else being the pack makes sense. Lissa being village and Taffy being a wolf makes sense. Both lissa and taffy being villagers is possible.

For now it makes sense to vote lissa and tbh finding her isn't my #1 priority today. I found her before in this game and I agree with Manti on her. I also think that her activity makes perfect sense from a wolf pov.
My priority should be interacting more directly with other players. Esp. Manti and Taffy, maybe Stett and Dya, if they're around. Trying to solve certain players together with Benneh, Visor or waza could be helpful too.

[nebjiamn]

lissa being the alleged target is disheartening for reasons beyond it failing.

[pzelda]

I did a lot more than that yesterday and it didn't seem to register with you so please excuse my skepticism there.

It's possible some of your activity slipped my mind. What exactly do you mean by doing a lot more yesterday? I know you posted different posts and takes.
Perhaps I expressed myself wrongly. I meant finding towniness in your today's activity. I think you so far doubted me and benneh for dropping you in their reads. I admit I didn't notice you reacting to visor for pairing you with Lissa, so maybe you only react to drops in reads you find sus.

[pzelda]

I'm still not 100% over that one Visor/dya interaction from d1. I should dig it up.

Other than that I kind of like waza introducing stett in the mix and yet I dislike lissa introducing me. Maybe it's because of the form. I think it's time to consider both of us tbh. I don't know if I personally want to consider stett worlds today.

[pzelda]

Dya wya on taffy stett Annika and arctic

annika prob v i think. Stett def v. idk on taffy and I suck at reading arctic so I try not to

I do think his reads list is at odds with a lot of the thread though

This one. It felt weird Visor asking dya that in such a shortform and she responded in kind of a similar laid back way.

[Visor]

Lissa isn't trying to solve the game she is just trying to find people to kill

Just kill her

[waza]

uh, no lol

you told me not to so i didn't, that was 10 days ago

Vote: Unvote

so, you didnt just because i asked? what if i was a wolf fypov and u let me get away with it simply because i asked u not to case me

well im not either way, but now im asking u to wolfcase me like u planned to on d1 and if u have time can u do a proper one and not a tldr one pls n thx

[pzelda]

Dya wya on taffy stett Annika and arctic

Lissa isn't trying to solve the game she is just trying to find people to kill

Just kill her

tbh that might be the difference i sense between her casing me and waza pushing stett.

[nebjiamn]

@didistetter what are you thinkin rn

not just today just overall

[Visor]

tbh that might be the difference i sense between her casing me and waza pushing stett.

How so

[pzelda]

How so

Because Waza is pushing Stett to be active and to show their towniness or wolfiness. I think that Lissa just focused on my d2 and she is just pointing out why I might be wolfy without committing to pushing me. I reacted to her post but I didn't feel any urge to do so.

Also her point about me having tmi is a weird angle to push. In what regard? I'm as confused and blind as a villager can be.

[dyachei]

This one. It felt weird Visor asking dya that in such a shortform and she responded in kind of a similar laid back way.

this is how visor always talks to me? im confused why being laid back is a concern to you here

[pzelda]

this is how visor always talks to me? im confused why being laid back is a concern to you here

Because it's a potentially fake conversation with a forced laid back tone. Questions running in my head were: Why was he asking about these four names (you probs hadn't included them in your early takes)? Did he work with the information he got from you? And so on. I guess it was more about Visor and his sometimes opaque way of processing information in this game and about him directing the post at you than about your response, which probably isn't really noteworthy outside of the fact that you had a possibly self aware need of pinting out that your takes were "at the odds with a lot of the thread."

It's just one interaction tho. I don't have a whole theory about the two of you being wolves wrapped around it. I'm kind of solid on Visor being town too. In my list of possible pack you/Visor is pretty low and roughly on par with Maple/Visor.

[pzelda]

k well that really does make it look like 2 in ben/lissa/maple huh.

if the inventions are real i jailkept lissa but who tf knows.

today's probs mylo ig

I missed this. Stett claimed before Taffy. That keeps Taffy/Lissa in the game. It doesn't matter that much as all of my favourite pairings rn include lissa. Rereading that eod. Lissa pushed hard to stay alive. Some of the other players had w/w potential (Maple, dya, maybe even Stett).

[pzelda]

Ok, reading it again, maybe little more rested. I quite dislike the way Maple defended lissa at sod. He reposted the exact posts I found wolfy and called them posts a wolf would never make.

[Maple]

My jails *shouldnt* stop the bombs. Unless they don't actually function like douses.

If they DO stop bombs that's EVEN MORE evidence that taff is 3p because that means both wolves and village have anti-arso tools