Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[Maple]

No but actually why douse lissa she's a cw

And for that matter I don't believe the arctic and holster claims sorry I'm still tunneled

[pzelda]

No but actually why douse lissa she's a cw

And for that matter I don't believe the arctic and holster claims sorry I'm still tunneled

I guess Taffy doused or claimed dousing Lissa because of waza telling them to do so. Tbh, this tunnel is what I like the most about you rn.

[didistetter]

Ben it's a form of cop but I won't say what type.

Pzelda you seemed so sure I was a villager until yesterday and now you're OK with me dying and this is weirding me out a lot

@Maple why would you give the cop out last?

[Visor]

hmm

i feel like this push on me comes across as far more pushable than benneh's once i flip, and i'm not sure a wolf knowing full well that my role does exist and is in this setup would try to use that as an argument cuz it's not gonna look good when i flip

i would guess that, as convincing as his acting is, benneh is probably a wolf for all this. i think he was prompted to look at me again because he thought i was vanilla fps'ing based on what i claimed and asked him earlier and he's converted that into a free ML now that he can't just say to ignite me since my claim made me self-resolving. and now he specifically doesn't want to let me act at night either, which is another thing i take problem with because wolves are not going to want to let me act tonight

i think lissa deciding to make 10 posts about me being outted mafia and preflipping based off that comes across as performative. i think she's intentionally trying to come across as lacking TMI on me. good wolves see situations like this and decide to preflip the villager wolf and make a bunch of nonsense solving so they can look like they didn't have TMI after the flip. but i think a villager here would still be uncertain, or at least uncertain enough to the point of not deciding to treat me as outted mafia or make their entire solve based on my posts before even getting my flip

What he said

[didistetter]

so, you didnt just because i asked? what if i was a wolf fypov and u let me get away with it simply because i asked u not to case me

well im not either way, but now im asking u to wolfcase me like u planned to on d1 and if u have time can u do a proper one and not a tldr one pls n thx

i'm not going to waste my time wolfcasing someone i don't think is a wolf. It's performative and a waste and basically requires me to just force reads. It wouldn't be natural like it would when i did sus you and I can't reconstruct that mindspace.

There's no real reason for w!you to kill ladd so i do not care about you rn. (in the nicest way possible).

my biggest concerns are
1. figuring out if there's any possible world taffy is a wolf
2. making absolute sure the world can't be maple/benneh or taffy/benneh, which are probably the only worlds we lose to today if we vote lissa

[Visor]

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

[didistetter]

I guess Taffy doused or claimed dousing Lissa because of waza telling them to do so. Tbh, this tunnel is what I like the most about you rn.

waza told taffy to douse maple no?

[didistetter]

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

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i kinda think he is but i don't want him to be which is why i've kinda been zoned out a bit today cause i let myself get ated again if he's wolf and that feels belh

i do wanna know why maple gave out cop last tho

[Visor]

The way Lissa treated ender was super Wolfy

It's possible maple is also a wolf but I don't care to figure it out rn, just kill benneh and Lissa first

[didistetter]

Vote: Lissa

[didistetter]

funnily enough if ben is a wolf

i had jk on him most of the night but swapped last min

so lolme

[Visor]

hmm
he's kinda wolfie tho imo

not really just for his scumread on me—specifically saying he thinks Arctic and I are a diff check in 336 doesn't track for me when Arctic and I haven't interacted at all and... should pretty easily be partners from his PoV

he says he's not sure why he thinks that, which is fair, but it's still odd to me

Annika goat

[nebjiamn]

vote: maple

[nebjiamn]

kill me today instead, i'd rather not participate in a stupid threadstate tomorrow

[Maple]

@Maple why would you give the cop out last?

It's the worst of the three abilities, trust me.

[nebjiamn]

visor i could see being a wolf more than sunbae, i do think some of his switch of reads have been a bit opportunistic and i havent vibed with his posts in the second half as much as the first half - i wouldnt even rule out him being w/w with taffy. he is prolly out of my v reads tbh

ladd goat

[Maple]

i'm not going to waste my time wolfcasing someone i don't think is a wolf. It's performative and a waste and basically requires me to just force reads. It wouldn't be natural like it would when i did sus you and I can't reconstruct that mindspace.

There's no real reason for w!you to kill ladd so i do not care about you rn. (in the nicest way possible).

my biggest concerns are
1. figuring out if there's any possible world taffy is a wolf
2. making absolute sure the world can't be maple/benneh or taffy/benneh, which are probably the only worlds we lose to today if we vote lissa

if taff is a wolf her role has to be VERY different to what we think it is, doesnt make sense for them to have ff/arso. no idea wtf it would be but like yeah nah

as far as me and benneh goes shrug idk i can see why you'd think its a possiblity based off of d1 + me swapping to defending him so Fair Enough i suppose

idk i think like without the mantichora paranoia i should be pretty clearly a villager here like sure i fucked some stuff up but this setup literally only make sense if im a villager and like idk wtf am i doing if im a wolff lol like i got NO threadpull this game and im just really not effecive not really sure how i can fix that

like im pushing taff and i genuinly DO NOT understand why no one else sees what im seeing??? like am i crazy?

refocusing

dya you visor v that's for sure

tahts 4, 5 left, i need +1. idk i think visor is right. like i guess on a basic level waza and zelda are slots that lissa has treated similarly and if we interpret that as "looking for a way out", basically, then like there you have it, prob both v. so fuck it sure, benneh is the second wolf.

reads have been bad af this game if this is true

[Maple]

like WHY does taff get feedback on douses and why did a jail stop the douse + she claimed it after you already claimed your jail so ???

but my jail only stops kill and RBs

[waza]

if taff is a wolf her role has to be VERY different to what we think it is, doesnt make sense for them to have ff/arso. no idea wtf it would be but like yeah nah

as far as me and benneh goes shrug idk i can see why you'd think its a possiblity based off of d1 + me swapping to defending him so Fair Enough i suppose

idk i think like without the mantichora paranoia i should be pretty clearly a villager here like sure i fucked some stuff up but this setup literally only make sense if im a villager and like idk wtf am i doing if im a wolff lol like i got NO threadpull this game and im just really not effecive not really sure how i can fix that

like im pushing taff and i genuinly DO NOT understand why no one else sees what im seeing??? like am i crazy?

refocusing

dya you visor v that's for sure

tahts 4, 5 left, i need +1. idk i think visor is right. like i guess on a basic level waza and zelda are slots that lissa has treated similarly and if we interpret that as "looking for a way out", basically, then like there you have it, prob both v. so fuck it sure, benneh is the second wolf.

reads have been bad af this game if this is true

I suppose it’s the case of the enbywhocriedwolf

If that’s not your correct pronouns sorry but iirc you had an account named with enby or mayeb that was Akane who made that account

But yeah ur claim doesn’t make sense lol, I already sort of went over some issues with it and yeah then you deciding to give it to dya who I don’t ever remembering seeing you tr is just as concerning. You fakeclaim pr so much as wolf that ig it has caught up to you if ur town here because the moment you do something questionable we’re just gonna doubt you and everything you say lol. I do think it’s unlikely for u and taffy to both be town so I do wish taffy just ignited your slot lol and then we could rethink stuff accordingly from whatever alignment and role u flipped

Plus fmpov you were tunneled on Annika d1 and pushed me to save lissa yesterday so if lissa is a wolf it’s hard for me to come around to your worldview because I know it’s been incorrect. But that doesn’t mean it’s all completely incorrect, on average we are all probably more or less the same amount of incorrevt with a few exceptions that’s usually how town goes, but yeah I think it would be easier to come around to ur worldview if people saw you solve outside of taffy and if you make towny posts and good conclusions on slots outside of taffy it’ll help us come around to a world on taffy in which you are correct and town

But like fmpov you kinda just beeen meowing most of each day phase then you rock up at eod to do some stuff I disagree with so yeah it’s hard to come around to whatever ur selling as a result friendo

[waza]

ladd goat

U really think it’s visor? I feel like he’s just town regardless of whether he’s right or not on you

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1789

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
5	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (13), didistetter (19), pzelda (16), waza (20)
1	Totally not Taffy	Maple (17)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (21)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (9)

[didistetter]

like WHY does taff get feedback on douses and why did a jail stop the douse + she claimed it after you already claimed your jail so ???

but my jail only stops kill and RBs

huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

[didistetter]

kill me today instead, i'd rather not participate in a stupid threadstate tomorrow

@nebjiamn ben if ur town we would probs lose if we mislunched you today :wowee:

which is more viable iyo?

odd night redirector bodyguard, even night redirector bodyguard, inventor who gives track/jailkeep/?cop?

or

odd night redirector bodyguard, even night redirector bodyguard, bomb planter who gets feedback on successful plants and who's implantations count as a killing action?

[Maple]

huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

Yeah you'd have protected from kills + cause actions used by the target to fail

*other* actions used on your target would still work. 100p

[didistetter]

Vote: Taffy

maybe i do want to see ur supposed scumcase on me

[Maple]

enby is correct, and i own the enbyfrogtapioca account

idk dude i literally have been saying that i think dya is v and have come back around to that conclusion on each reevaluation so i dont get why yall are calling me a troll for giving them an invention like its a good choice when the other options all have teh chance to die in teh night

[Visor]

huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

The fun world is Lissa/taffy and Lissa voted a lost wolf in rask

Should look up how Lissa and taffy treated each other

[waza]

enby is correct, and i own the enbyfrogtapioca account

idk dude i literally have been saying that i think dya is v and have come back around to that conclusion on each reevaluation so i dont get why yall are calling me a troll for giving them an invention like its a good choice when the other options all have teh chance to die in teh night

What about them did u find towny? My issue was you trd them enough to give them a gift but not enough to mention them as a tr when you were going through your initial reads today

Why not give it to Zelda who was more tr’d, did you think they would die?

[waza]

Don’t get me wrong

Dya is a great choice to give it to if they’re b and ur v

But it’s like ladd says, they’re not really a v read someone who doesn’t know them well would have gotten to as easily

[waza]

If they’re v* and you’re v