Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Vanta Black]

Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)

A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering

it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips

I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w

Ymmv

This does make any sense, logically. False premise, bad conclusion.

In order: Vanta most commonly miskilled player here. Really? I mean the most commonly mizzled? If true I probably deserve it, but I don't think it's true.

Cape knows it. Also not really supported by facts.

Conclusion: But even if true, the logic doesn't hold up. I get mizzled a lot, so my "partner" comes out bussing me at the getgo. I mean there are hellbussers, and Cape may be one, but this doesn't actually make sense.

I'm gonna flip town. That won't make Cape look particularly good. Although not particularly bad either, probably.

This "logic" looks like setting up a chain of some kind. I don't like it.

[Sunbae]

Gonna call Vanta >rand villa and feel good about it

[waza]

Gonna call Vanta >rand villa and feel good about it

Yeah same

Kinda agree with ur villa list u posted after this

[Sunbae]

My villas right now are Jan, Ladd, Vanta, Cape

[Visor]

My villas right now are Jan, Ladd, Vanta, Cape

When sunbae doesn't have you in the town core again

[Sunbae]

[Cape90]

Vate: Maple

I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now

Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn

I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning

[Visor]

Vate: Maple

I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now

Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn

I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning

Talk to me about ender please

I don't think Ladd has done anything worth being concerned about yet, ymmv

[Lissa]

Vate: Maple

I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now

Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn

I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning

why are you sheeping ender there? the maple read was pretty empty and maple hasn't really done... anything ai, really.

[Visor]

Where Are you at on ender lissa

[Lissa]

Where Are you at on ender lissa

mostly feels alright. don't have strong thoughts

[Sunbae]

Vate: Maple

I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now

Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn

I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning

if cape is w, its not with maple or ender either so cape w worlds are like cape/waza/ladd/rask? but i have small v reads on ladd and rask

[Sunbae]

perhaps i should just call cape a villager

[Raskolnikov]

perhaps i should just call cape a villager

I am going to do the same because I can smh.

Would be awesome to be able to read Manti toDay (I know, high expectations I have but one can dream right? I am, tonight was a good football eve)

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 396

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
2	Visor	Raskolnikov (9), waza (1)
1	Raskolnikov	Visor (2)
1	Lissa	Sunbae (9)
7	Not Voting	Cape90 (2), EnderWiggin (0), Jan (0), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (2), ladd (1)

[Cape90]

Mmmmm.

This is a lot of not accurate stuff. Rask has been busy as town or wolf and it rarely impacts how he goes about the next game. I do like this read even tho I think it's silly.

Waza can be a lil bit green.

1. I kind of liked this. I think rask has been towny.

Vote: Vanta Black

2. Mindmeld vote because this is probably the wolfiest thing that Vanta did

Chief I got questions

Vote: Maple

Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.

Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.

3. All this and the vote on Maple and the way Ender was navigating the thread felt a bit sloppy to be a wolf, so pretty much I agree with what Jan said. I only partially get the push and it's mostly for

I don't believe that'd you'd have a wolf read on me here. Ur meowted.

but the vote was mostly just to get off you and i was too lazy to look up how to unvote so it was them or Lissa as I want more from both

[Lissa]

1. I kind of liked this. I think rask has been towny.



2. Mindmeld vote because this is probably the wolfiest thing that Vanta did





3. All this and the vote on Maple and the way Ender was navigating the thread felt a bit sloppy to be a wolf, so pretty much I agree with what Jan said. I only partially get the push and it's mostly for



but the vote was mostly just to get off you and i was too lazy to look up how to unvote so it was them or Lissa as I want more from both

Given you referred to the maple vote among other things as sloppy, I'm even more wondering why you sheeped it.

[Sunbae]

I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.

[Visor]

I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.

Why?

[Sunbae]

Why?

I cannot explain this one any more clearly than "I read his posts and he seems like an obvious villager doing obvious villager things to me"

[Visor]

I cannot explain this one any more clearly than "I read his posts and he seems like an obvious villager doing obvious villager things to me"

Fair enough

I can sometimes feel like that with Jan but not so far this game

[Sunbae]

After talking with lissa last game about needing to be more concrete and confident about expressing reads I am trying to do that here.

1. I think Waza's approach thus far is more likely to come from wolf Waza. I think there are posts made here to look villagery rather than to express opinions on alignments. This distinction is one that I struggle to articulate all the time but in this case it amounts to I believe villa Waza would have more succinct reads that he would expand upon if asked or needed while instead we have more elaborate "getting from point a to point b for a read" posts. Both the one about Rask and the one about Ladd's "lmao" both strike me as posts designed for people to look at and say "wow good thought process Waza, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager" rather than for waza to just be spitballing early reads.

Caveats of it's mid day 1 in a chill mostly rvs game so far and I am allowed to change my mind in the future apply.


2. Vanta's post about it looking like Visor is trying to chain something together and he doesn't like it is villagery for the exact same reasons I find Waza's posts wolfy. I look at it and say "wow good thought process Vanta, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager". Werewolf is a stupid game and I am able to hold these two thoughts simultaneously.

[Sunbae]

that is, i wish i could explain more clearly

[Raskolnikov]

I am prolly slow but I read last Sunbae post about waza and Vanta and I am even more confused lol.

What makes them different to you then? Like meta? (Ie expectatipns wrt waza wolf play or something?)

[Sunbae]

I am prolly slow but I read last Sunbae post about waza and Vanta and I am even more confused lol.

What makes them different to you then? Like meta? (Ie expectatipns wrt waza wolf play or something?)

Metaish I guess would be the word under that description

[Visor]

What did you make of enders posts sunbae

[Raskolnikov]

I am going to grab food then switch pn comp and reread the whole thing smh.

[Cape90]

After talking with lissa last game about needing to be more concrete and confident about expressing reads I am trying to do that here.

1. I think Waza's approach thus far is more likely to come from wolf Waza. I think there are posts made here to look villagery rather than to express opinions on alignments. This distinction is one that I struggle to articulate all the time but in this case it amounts to I believe villa Waza would have more succinct reads that he would expand upon if asked or needed while instead we have more elaborate "getting from point a to point b for a read" posts. Both the one about Rask and the one about Ladd's "lmao" both strike me as posts designed for people to look at and say "wow good thought process Waza, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager" rather than for waza to just be spitballing early reads.

Caveats of it's mid day 1 in a chill mostly rvs game so far and I am allowed to change my mind in the future apply.


2. Vanta's post about it looking like Visor is trying to chain something together and he doesn't like it is villagery for the exact same reasons I find Waza's posts wolfy. I look at it and say "wow good thought process Vanta, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager". Werewolf is a stupid game and I am able to hold these two thoughts simultaneously.

I feel like this doesn't make sense in my head regarding the Vanta thing, Vanta hasn't posted a thought process that's super deep other then pushing back against the visor wall if you really want to count that, but I like the waza thought if I strip of what kind of player I perceive waza as

[EnderWiggin]

I feel like this doesn't make sense in my head regarding the Vanta thing, Vanta hasn't posted a thought process that's super deep other then pushing back against the visor wall if you really want to count that, but I like the waza thought if I strip of what kind of player I perceive waza as

M8 what is this post.

[EnderWiggin]

Also yeah I'm ~moderately confident this is town!Rask