Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Raskolnikov]

Also Lissa/Maple feel coordinated or something. Glad I am not Ender rn

[Maple]

Also Lissa/Maple feel coordinated or something. Glad I am not Ender rn

we've basically merged into one being at this point

[Cape90]

When did I ever ask others for a read on you?

If you're gonna come for me actually quote what I did properly like.

Also Maple just latching onto the Cape omgus once Lissa fields it feels like aggro wolfin'. Like they haven't mentioned Cape despite apparently having a mini-case locked and ready to go.

Instead literally 100% of Maple's posts have been "Ender wolf" with no other nuance and then latching onto a second target once Lissa sets the tee up. (If I'm right on this it's also 99% Lissa town because that wolfy-latch-on is not w/w.)

Small footprint wolftell always feels good.

...Maybe I'm on the wrong side of history

Vote: EnderWiggin

I don't get how Maple "coming out of nowhere" with a case on me is super wolfy and them not mentioning me up to this point is wolfy when Maple hasn't really done anything otherwise.

And like Maple's case on me isn't like all that deep either and is also based off recent things I said, I don't get the whole "oh this post is wolf-shaped" thing, I mean I am kinda struggling to get a grip this game because it feels like so little has happened that really inspires me in any way

[Maple]

I rescind the wolfcase this cape guy seems alright

[Lissa]

we've basically merged into one being at this point

real

[Lissa]

hmm

[Cape90]

argue as in... ask people questions to try to read them better?

?

also idt the majority of my reads are particularly softball lol

weird post

It's like you would say one thing and I'd be like "... okay but what does Lissa think of xyz?" Like when Visor asked about your read on Ender #198 I was like "mhm yeah I have that and other questions"

When I said softball, I didn't exactly mean softball, but when you were pressed about your ender read and your maple read you just kind of nullread them when the criticism that you levied against me didn't really match the energy of your pushing of me, like why would you care so much about me pushing one of your nullreads?

[Cape90]

I had troubles with him going from cape w to cape ww with Vanta tbh, i mean in lieu of the other possibilities. I have liked him more since he dropped it entirely and started to probe, a play more in line with his village game but thats the easiest thing to fake so I dont really know what to do with the slot rn.

but like that was Visor's original take on me? Like he originally said that I was w/w with Vanta, this wasn't a development that came later on.

And like this other part seems rather ungenerous, "well Visor later became towny but that's easy for wolf to fake" like what do you want Visor to do, be wolfy?? Do you mean this in like a different way?

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 248

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
2	Lissa	Raskolnikov (24), Visor (30)
2	EnderWiggin	Cape90 (29), Maple (16)
2	Jan	ladd (19)
1	Maple	EnderWiggin (22)
1	waza	Sunbae (21)
1	Cape90	Lissa (24)
4	Not Voting	Jan (9), Logic (3), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)

Deadline in 5 1/2 hours.

[Maple]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 248

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
2	Lissa	Raskolnikov (24), Visor (30)
2	EnderWiggin	Cape90 (29), Maple (16)
2	Jan	ladd (19)
1	Maple	EnderWiggin (22)
1	waza	Sunbae (21)
1	Cape90	Lissa (24)
4	Not Voting	Jan (9), Logic (3), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)

Deadline in 5 1/2 hours.

WAIT WHAT REALLY? WTF THIS ISNT A 48/24?

[Lissa]

It's like you would say one thing and I'd be like "... okay but what does Lissa think of xyz?" Like when Visor asked about your read on Ender #198 I was like "mhm yeah I have that and other questions"

When I said softball, I didn't exactly mean softball, but when you were pressed about your ender read and your maple read you just kind of nullread them when the criticism that you levied against me didn't really match the energy of your pushing of me, like why would you care so much about me pushing one of your nullreads?

yeah you might have meant that differently than I read it, hrm

I don't think ender had responded to my question at that point. I read their other posts and I was like... eh, they're kinda ok? the question originally to ender really wasn't accusatory, it was an attempt to get them to explain something I didn't understand in the hopes of developing my read. my problem with ender's maple read wasn't that I felt it was 100% Definitely Incorrect in conclusion but that having... really much of /any/ read on maple off those posts felt pretty weird to me.

I thought you sheeping the pretty ender read on maple was also pretty weird and out of place because that read was pretty limp and openly empty. in other words my issue wasn't you /pushing maple/ it was WHY you were pushing maple, which makes whether I village read maple somewhat beside the point. also I also have concerns about multiple other reads you have itg

[Lissa]

WAIT WHAT REALLY? WTF THIS ISNT A 48/24?

no it's a 48/24

with an AM eod/sod

[ladd]

vote:logic

We should keep up the org tradition of lunching the lowest poster d1, them flipping wolf and the game turning out to be way harder than initially thought

[Cape90]

I dont wanna lunch cape cause i think waza is a villager, he is super good at reading cape and was thinking villa there

I don't know if this is true myself, it's more like waza townreads me almost every game and ends up being correct because I hardly rand wolf and everyone claps. He's okay at reading me in turbos iirc. One person who I will say is good at reading me I think is Schiavetto but that's besides the point

I was joking about visor post being too wordy but thr post itself kinda pinged me cause it really seemed to be assumin too much. Idk kinds reminds me of when he opened as a wolf saying me/waza w/w but the explained versione

Okay I was wondering about this. I found it towny just for the fact that it jumped the shark on me and i'd assume that Visor would want to at least get his facts straight if he is wolf before posting that so confidently but idk

[ladd]

I know i said id sheep sunbae on jan but his posting seems a bit too commentary mode to me

The posts themselves are fine, just feel he is kinda sidelining a bit

[Lissa]

I know i said id sheep sunbae on jan but his posting seems a bit too commentary mode to me

The posts themselves are fine, just feel he is kinda sidelining a bit

hm. I looked back at his most recent post and it does make me feel a certain kind of way

[ladd]

I would not lunch cape and prolly not ender either

I ll be on/off (way more off than on) until eod

[Jan]

I know i said id sheep sunbae on jan but his posting seems a bit too commentary mode to me

The posts themselves are fine, just feel he is kinda sidelining a bit

You wait until I get back from the dentist, pumped full with meds.

You will wish I was more sidelined! (Give it ~1 hour)

[Cape90]

yeah you might have meant that differently than I read it, hrm

I don't think ender had responded to my question at that point. I read their other posts and I was like... eh, they're kinda ok? the question originally to ender really wasn't accusatory, it was an attempt to get them to explain something I didn't understand in the hopes of developing my read. my problem with ender's maple read wasn't that I felt it was 100% Definitely Incorrect in conclusion but that having... really much of /any/ read on maple off those posts felt pretty weird to me.

I thought you sheeping the pretty ender read on maple was also pretty weird and out of place because that read was pretty limp and openly empty. in other words my issue wasn't you /pushing maple/ it was WHY you were pushing maple, which makes whether I village read maple somewhat beside the point. also I also have concerns about multiple other reads you have itg

I thought Maple had more thread presence in my head until I actually looked at the postcounts, probably because a lot of Maple's content was spread out so it was like I thought that them having a thread presence and them being super null the whole time was worth... something. I felt more comfy just unvoting there but idk how, I assume "vote colon unvote" in bold.

[Raskolnikov]

but like that was Visor's original take on me? Like he originally said that I was w/w with Vanta, this wasn't a development that came later on.

And like this other part seems rather ungenerous, "well Visor later became towny but that's easy for wolf to fake" like what do you want Visor to do, be wolfy?? Do you mean this in like a different way?

I have been struggling with him since start basically yeah. Ive been keeping my vote there after the rvs. Now I am sheeping him on lissa because I agreed they were lacking and the most recent posts are just maybes to me.

About Visor and the last part of ur post: no, I want him to towntell. I ve been quite good at spotting him recently (see Bennehs mash on MU where I was hard shielding him when Sunbae dayvigged him. #Sunbaehero)
I am not sure how to articulate it, but he has a way of being everywhere without agenda when villaging)

[Maple]

no it's a 48/24

with an AM eod/sod

im cooked i didnt read teh signup thread

[Raskolnikov]

Ender/lissa/Maple

I am a genius I know. Yw

[ladd]

Ender/lissa/Maple

I am a genius I know. Yw

Mind blown

[Maple]

ladd who we killin i most likely will not be awake tmr morning unless something very loud and annoying wakes me up

[Raskolnikov]

ladd who we killin i most likely will not be awake tmr morning unless something very loud and annoying wakes me up

Not charitable for neil tbh

[Maple]

its generally his water bottle thats the issue

[Cape90]

After talking with lissa last game about needing to be more concrete and confident about expressing reads I am trying to do that here.

1. I think Waza's approach thus far is more likely to come from wolf Waza. I think there are posts made here to look villagery rather than to express opinions on alignments. This distinction is one that I struggle to articulate all the time but in this case it amounts to I believe villa Waza would have more succinct reads that he would expand upon if asked or needed while instead we have more elaborate "getting from point a to point b for a read" posts. Both the one about Rask and the one about Ladd's "lmao" both strike me as posts designed for people to look at and say "wow good thought process Waza, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager" rather than for waza to just be spitballing early reads.

Caveats of it's mid day 1 in a chill mostly rvs game so far and I am allowed to change my mind in the future apply.


2. Vanta's post about it looking like Visor is trying to chain something together and he doesn't like it is villagery for the exact same reasons I find Waza's posts wolfy. I look at it and say "wow good thought process Vanta, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager". Werewolf is a stupid game and I am able to hold these two thoughts simultaneously.

I feel like this doesn't make sense in my head regarding the Vanta thing, Vanta hasn't posted a thought process that's super deep other then pushing back against the visor wall if you really want to count that, but I like the waza thought if I strip of what kind of player I perceive waza as

[EnderWiggin]

I don't think the "omugsing" on knights the treestump was real and just silly one being silly


Cape decided to "sheep you" and you voted maple before maple said they are omgussing you (and you did not post in between.

So either it was not a sheep or his reason cannot be the omgus.

You and anyone else can argue that it was a reaction test, and Maple's reaction was bad.
That is fair.
But nobody has said that.

... I'm not going to lie I thought your comment was a statement about my ability to call Maple sus. Did not comprehend you were talking about Cape there mb

Not at all, this is normal for me.

Your honour, self-meta.

...Maybe I'm on the wrong side of history

Vote: EnderWiggin

I don't get how Maple "coming out of nowhere" with a case on me is super wolfy and them not mentioning me up to this point is wolfy when Maple hasn't really done anything otherwise.

And like Maple's case on me isn't like all that deep either and is also based off recent things I said, I don't get the whole "oh this post is wolf-shaped" thing, I mean I am kinda struggling to get a grip this game because it feels like so little has happened that really inspires me in any way

It felt like a latch onto Lissa's point. Like there was no consideration for you being a wolf and then when Lissa started mentioning it Maple was suddenly like "And here's all the reasons why!"

[Lissa]

im cooked i didnt read teh signup thread

eod wasnt in there tbf!

[Raskolnikov]

hm. I looked back at his most recent post and it does make me feel a certain kind of way

Ok, which kind of way lissa?