Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Visor]

Yes.

I was trying to find a "He dids it" Gollum gif but either I'm mis-remembering the movies or google has failed me.

[EnderWiggin]

Also yeah Lissa is town p sure. Sorry for the intermittent sus.

[Visor]

to be clear

you shot him with the parting gift?

you're not a vig or anything?

[EnderWiggin]

I have probably given Rask too much leeway but idk if I care to dig into that lol.

[Raskolnikov]

Maple >> ladd >> sunbae

Rideau

If it ends the game u have full licence to moke post game, provided u realise the team player I am

[Raskolnikov]

to be clear

you shot him with the parting gift?

you're not a vig or anything?

@Gemma Id feel insulted ngl

[EnderWiggin]

to be clear

you shot him with the parting gift?

you're not a vig or anything?

I'm the omegatrackervig9000 with extra sauce and several sides of garlic aioli.

Yes I shot Jan with the gun they handed me. Tbh I'm not at all sure why they gave me the gun in the first place.

[Visor]

I'm the omegatrackervig9000 with extra sauce and several sides of garlic aioli.

Yes I shot Jan with the gun they handed me. Tbh I'm not at all sure why they gave me the gun in the first place.

what did he talk about in the chat?

[Visor]

@Gemma Id feel insulted ngl

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[Raskolnikov]

When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you

[Visor]

When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you

[EnderWiggin]

what did he talk about in the chat?

Sparknotes was like:
We talked about EOD (Jan's "theory" was that Waza was a wolf-pushed EOD vote. Pointed towards you/Lissa. I had a debate about how I thought waza is a riskier save if you were going to commit to saving Lissa. It didn't really go anywhere.)
Jan tried to pitch the point that they had correctly been reading me as town even as everyone was stopping their townreads as a reason for them being town. (Which I'll be honest was like 75% of what convinced me I needed to shoot em lol)
I tried to get them to talk about Maple (Which they kinda did? But I was unimpressed and they refused to elaborate on why they didn't find the heavy omgus-y style as potentially wolfy when Maple did basically the same thing - aka "I'm only active when people poke me and I omgus real quick to make people not be super willing to push there easily." - in the last game they wolfed.)
Then they did the whole "I'm fine dying if you can't find me. Good luck." and then didn't respond to anything further after that.

[Visor]

Vote: Maple

[EnderWiggin]

I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.

Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.

Sadly. :(

[EnderWiggin]

@Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?

[Visor]

@Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?

honestly i just thought your entrance was weak and i was trying to get opinions before saying anything in case i influenced peoples responses

but i also know that i have misread you in recent games so i didn't want to just go all in (also because we are friends)

part of why i gave ladd such a hard time when he thought you were lock wolf and then switched

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Maple

[Sunbae]

Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.

Sadly. :(

nah, just a bad post that i fixed on day 2!

[Sunbae]

i think its just ladd and maple

visor, lissa seem pretty villa
rasks posts today are good
ender claimed the kill


forgive me if i do not wall today (tho i note that if its ladd and maple my conclusions were correct i just voted wrong!!!)

[Sunbae]

i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd

[Sunbae]

When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you

this would be a very funny game of me getting carried and basically solo voting the whole game, missing eods, never voting a wolf, and winning

im hoping jetlagged ender and friends finish the carry

[Maple]

Nya

I'm 100% confident that lissa will defend me when she wakes up

[Sunbae]

i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd

or perhaps gave it to cape, killed cape, and then had ender claim

or perhaps just gave it to the villager most likely to not kill him and it didnt work, shrug. ill worry about it if it comes up but wanted to get it out there just in case

[Visor]

Yeah I thought about it a bit

There's a few worlds

If w/v

Gave it to villager who is not likely to kill him, or someone they think they convince. Or possibly someone who if they do shoot, is still suspect due to the argument itself, so it doesn't actually clear them if it doesn't work
. If it works great, you survive and get an ally and probably can still get the other fella killed if you die because they didn't kill you. If you die people may suspect that it was w/w setup and still potentially kill them

If w/w
Killed to send deep, or you don't kill and try to align together or something

Banking on ppl thinking killed wolf therefore v

Jan was getting heat but he wasn't outed, and the wolves shot cape and not lissa or me so in that sense it's possible that they weren't playing for Jan to lock die

Jan did village read ender iirc and might've seen it as a way to potentially get both worlds either way

Worth thinking about

[Visor]

Enders posts today are ok and he responded quick enough when I asked about the chat though if he's a wolf they would've already discussed it so that's probably a moot point

What do you think of rask sunabe

[Visor]

his posts are still 'sloppy' to me but i do think rn that both maple and ladd have higher wolf equity

him admitting he was going to townread jan and wolfread cape - i've seen wolves do that reverse tmi stuff at SOD but rask doesn't feel like someone who would need to do that unless he is playing up the hopeless game angle and theres an earnestness to his posting this morning that has been begrudgingly, okay

i should look at d1 to see if lissa talked about jan any just for due diligence purposes but maybe later

[Sunbae]

Enders posts today are ok and he responded quick enough when I asked about the chat though if he's a wolf they would've already discussed it so that's probably a moot point

What do you think of rask sunabe

I'm trying to decide is this is a badchart.jpg read or a good observation but my initial take reading today is Rask coming in with a post about using my wall to say ender wolf and one of ladd/maple when the wolves know for a fact that ender killed jan is >>>rand villa for Rask. If rask is a wolf either Raskwolf knows villa Ender is gonna be clear so starting the day with Enderwolf makes little sense or Rask/Ender are together in one of the ploys I talked about in which case the plan is to send Ender deep and starting the day with Enderwolf makes no sense.

I also am making the note that Waza specifically thought I was wolfy in part because I couldn't get to Raskvilla and waza thought it was so obvious that it was weird I couldn't.

[Visor]

nah lissa is fine i think

early v read on jan, some pingy stuff that pick up on eod (i think cba to check timing) and then vote them mid d2

very blunt tone this game

holistically you could argue it is going along the line of typical wolf bus given trajectory of read but it doesnt really read that way to me, limited setup in a way that isn't super a->b in an obvious way which i like

[Visor]

I'm trying to decide is this is a badchart.jpg read or a good observation but my initial take reading today is Rask coming in with a post about using my wall to say ender wolf and one of ladd/maple when the wolves know for a fact that ender killed jan is >>>rand villa for Rask. If rask is a wolf either Raskwolf knows villa Ender is gonna be clear so starting the day with Enderwolf makes little sense or Rask/Ender are together in one of the ploys I talked about in which case the plan is to send Ender deep and starting the day with Enderwolf makes no sense.

I also am making the note that Waza specifically thought I was wolfy in part because I couldn't get to Raskvilla and waza thought it was so obvious that it was weird I couldn't.

i appreciate this read but i don't think its something that works for me

[Sunbae]

As for my Jan read on day 1 I poorly used an outdated method (read: probably bad to begin with but it "worked" for a while) of reading Jan where I found snarky/direct Jan to be villa Jan and when he posted a snarky reply to me (the chief post) + something about "wrong on every level" to someone else I called him a villager.

Then after fully rereading on day 2 I realized he hadn't actually posted anything I could clear him on and tossed him in my "cant clear but not part of the core wolf reads of one in ender/ladd and one in maple/rask so ill toss him here with waza/lissa" pile