Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
I actually want to leverage this very argument lol.

@Lissa

You've played a lot with Visor. He's an adroit wolf, but honestly ask yourself:
In a situation when defending partners or bussing them is proposed, he tends towards always giving himself ways to bus.

He has rarely been the wolf defending a partner and refusing to agree to a wolfread.

Why would he break that for me here? Especially going into F3 where bussing is classically the more effective move.

And yes I'm going to appeal to you to the final moment idc if you take my words with a grain of salt because at least if you hammer me when I do I can feel like I've tried.
that isn't really a standard definition i'd assign to his wolfgame; i do think he can very much do an array of things depending on the situation

i don't think him bussing you in v3 in a you/him world would have actually changed the resulting calculus too much here tbh

i think it could very well make sense for him to have protected you here as w/w. i think it sticks out a lot, to me, that both jan and visor were pretty much completely uninterested in ever killing you in any concrete way when if a villager you're certainly one of the more mislimable people in the lobby. i understand that's a point that you can't really engage with in any meaningful way if you're a villager and i'm sorry about that and do believe that if you are a villager i will get there in spite of that. but it's definitely a big thing on my mind, here

i certainly see what you mean about him being weirdly obsessed with asking people about you, as i read his early posts again

its a bit weird honestly either way lol. he never really did anything with any of it, just passively tossed you as fine to die d1 and then voted maple, d2 he sort of soft made a w/w read on ladd and you, he spent so much time asking people questions about you but never really did anything real with it.

he has a string of posts in the early 500s where it feels increasingly like he's trying to tie you and ladd together, then kinda drops that line, then tossed you in a list of people he was fine with killing in a spot where you were clearly never a real candidate pretty close to eod
then the next day (sod3) he starts sorta softball pushing you shortly before you get itt and claim the kill

and after that just in general he seems pretty uninterested in ever actually exploring the idea of you being a wolf in a way that sticks out as notable