…mmm I see what you mean about is it worth it I took all the advice in the forums, built up trade effectively, forged alliances, expanded the empire built up the capital, had emissaries and spies and gave the heir an army, and sent him forth, provinces loyalty ok and reasonably happy. Gradually the king improved, but when he died and the heir became King he had terrible statistics, so I have begun again trying to improve with the new King…. I think I was right and I’m trapped in an ever decreasing circle with these heirs.