hmmmmm...i can't decide which is better. Bulgarian Brigands or Trebizond Archers?code:
Unit Type Charge Melee Defense Armour Honour
BB 1 2 0 2 0
TA 1 3 -2 1 2

Urban Militia 4 2 -1 1 0
Woodsman 8 1 -1 2 -2
Spearman 5 -1 -1 1 0
Byz Inf 3 2 2 3 0
Varangian 4 4 5 4 6 (elite)[/QUOTE] Quote Armour is already included in the defence factor. In fact the defence factor is mainly based on the unit's armour, but can be modified for training, weapon type, and mode of fighting.
~longjohn2[/QUOTE]
Anyone up for a shot at recommending either, or? (please no, "both/rtfm" answers)