So she's not my cousin? How odd.

[Coldstream]

Sick of all your nobles popping out of mom who also happens to be dad's sister/first cousin?

Say no more to those hordes and hordes of inbred lunatic nobles you have prancing around your empire, looking for moonbeams and painting servants blue I got so infuriated with my last game where literally EVERY single one of my princes had the "Crazy" vice and a good deal had the "Inbred" vice that I said "To hell with it" and went and changed the vices a bit. While the vices will still have the same detrimental values (-2 command, -2 accumen and the like) at least your men have a vice thatis a bit more "Normal."

I changed the "Inbred" and "Crazy" titles and text around to give you something a bit different and something you can be a bit more proud of. Say goodbye to "Strange" and hello to "Womanzier"

You'll just have to play to find out the other 5 changes.

http://www.launchbury.com/sigs/changes.ZIP

Unzip to
X:\Program Files\Total War\Medieval - Total War\Loc\Eng

(X is the drive you have TW installed to. Most likely C.)

Have fun.

[Kekvit Irae]

But having someone suddenly go Crazy and Paranoid is historic Case in point: Ivan the Terrible. During his years with his wife, there were no executions and his fits of rage were calmed. When his wife died, all hell broke loose.

But love the new V&Vs

[Coldstream]

Once in a while it's alright, but not when ever single one of your men has it.

[DDogwood]

It's not a lot of fun to have a bunch of inbred morons wandering around ruling your country, but it's pretty accurate for the period. Once the idea that royals should only marry royals came around, it was pretty much all downhill. Especially considering that most of the nobility in Europe had at least some Norman blood, it's almost a surprise that they weren't even more inbred.

I like to marry my REALLY inbred royals to their sisters. It's a technique I learned from animal breeders trying to breed out genetic weaknesses. In theory, I should get 2 inbred heirs, 1 REALLY inbred heir, and one who hardly looks inbred at all.

[Grell]

I agree I got really fed up of inbreeding and that moon beam crap. I like your changes and was using them but then I had a prince get "Disgraced relative" and thought well his older brother has exactly the same relatives but doesnt have that VandV (Pedantic I know) here are my variants of your changes:

["inbred1title"]
{"Unreliable"}
["inbred1desc"]
{"This man is not very capeable and is known to be unreliable, thus people dealing with this man are slow to give him their trust and money. -1 Acumen, -1 Command"}
["inbred2title"]
{"Bumbling Fool"}
["inbred2desc"]
{"Notorious for his foolish decisions most people he deals with are quick to associate his name with failure and stupidity. -2 Acumen, -2 Command"}
["inbred3title"]
{"Utterly Incompetent"}
["inbred3desc"]
{"Men in countries around the globe scoff at the mere mention of this man's name. His incompetence is legendary. -3 Acumen, -3 Command"}

and:

["barking1title"]
{"Eccentric"}
["barking1desc"]
{"This man has been noted for his quirks and eccentricities and this has made him unpopular. -1 Morale, -10 Happiness"}
["barking2title"]
{"Peculiar"}
["barking2desc"]
{"This man's many peculiar habits and his erratic behaviour have lead some to suspect he may be unbalanced. -2 Morale, -20 Happiness"}
["barking3title"]
{"Unhinged"}
["barking3desc"]
{"Considered by most people to be mentally unhinged this man inspires nothing except pity and contempt in equal measures among his followers. -3 Morale, -30 Happiness"}

[WesW]

The womanizer suggestion got me thinking about something else to try- various levels of STD's. Some of those things can drive you insane, among other effects.

You can also use something like "old war wounds" if you want to.

[Kekvit Irae]

*chuckle*
STDs: -5 Health, -1 Valour
Old War Wounds: -5 Health, +1 Dread
Forced To Play The Hungarians: -20% Happiness, -1 Acumen

[Coldstream]

Hey, I really liked that "Unreliable" list you had going there, pretty good stuff. You could have run it through MS Word spell-checker but I'm just being a bit of a tosh.

[Coldstream]

Why don't we get a list of some new V&V's in this thread? Just something to give the game of bit of spice?

Any takers?

[ChaosShade]

just get anouther nations princesses to marry your hiers with an emisary and you can say good-bye to most of the inbred vices

[Coldstream]

Sometimes there are no takers.

[scsscsfanfan]

Is there a way to change the status modifies come with certain V&V's?
e.g. origional
["inbred3title"]
{"Utterly Incompetent"}
["inbred3desc"]
{"Men in countries around the globe scoff at the mere mention of this man's name. His incompetence is legendary. -3 Acumen, -3 Command"}

if I want the modifier to be "- 4acumen, -2 command, -10% happiness" - how do I do that?
or they are all hard coded with each V&V entry in the game??

[Grell]

I am 99% sure that this stuff is hardcoded.

[scsscsfanfan]

....

[Degtyarev14.5]

Some goodies from the Entrance Hall...

"Some new vices..."

Enjoy

A.

EDIT: Good God It's almost an all-Aussie thread 'Cept Coldstream, of course.

[Coldstream]

I'm from England. Be silent, you colonials.


Hah, just yanking chains.

[dessa14]

Hey all you brits are as inbred as tasmanians damn islanders dessa

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Hey nice changes, but I changed the Womanizer series to this
Thug- In his past, he has been part of a gang of thugs. This discomforts those around him
Ex-Con- Before he was a general, he was a con artist, worrying his troops.
Mafioso (go figure)- He 'was' part of a crimial network called La Cosa Nostra. However he has been seen with such notorius figures like Vito Andolini and Carmine Gigalante
-Capo

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (kekvitirae @ May 30 2003,00:27)]*chuckle*
STDs: -5 Health, -1 Valour
Old War Wounds: -5 Health, +1 Dread
Forced To Play The Hungarians: -20% Happiness, -1 Acumen ;)

Syphillis - -5 health +1 dread

This poor creature has aquired syphillis after one too many nights spent in a brothel. His health is suffering but the enemy fear to touch him