Florins

**Swoosh So** · 10-23-2003, 14:40

This must have been asked 1000 times but id like to know so that i can think up some armies b4 i get back online.

**Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe** · 10-23-2003, 14:45

For VI 2.01, the jury is still out... Expect anything between 5 and 15k.

Most games are likely to be around 10/15k. Don't expect too much from spears at those level...

And eventually to help thinking about armies, may I recommand using this nice tool?

Almicar army builder

Louis,

**Mithrandir** · 10-23-2003, 14:45

12k

**Swoosh So** · 10-23-2003, 15:26

Are upgrades still allowed?

**Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe** · 10-23-2003, 16:37

yes... up to v4a3w3....

Louis,

**Swoosh So** · 10-23-2003, 16:38

bah i was hoping we'd lose them in the patch. So i guess alot of battles are still guessing games (guessing what units the opponent has pumped up with wep/armour sigh*

**Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe** · 10-23-2003, 16:48

then play with low florins... there will be less upgrades, and they are likely to be valor one.

Also; no valor upgrade in battle made valor upgrade at selection more valuable; you can't rely on in battle valor upgrade to boost your cav in MP (and that's different from SP).

Louis,

Edit for typos

**CBR** · 10-23-2003, 16:54

Most are still 15k, some are playing 10k (which is really just 15k with 2 less morale) and a few wackos are divided between 5-8k

No Swoosh there is no guessing work really. If you play 10-15k just buy 4 cav, 8 pumped up swords and 4 missile. Most upgrades are the same..2-3 for your swords. You could go nuts and try 6 cav or only 2 cav with 2 anti-cav foot or even 4 cav, 6 swords and 2 anti-cav, but still no big surprises in upgrading.

CBR

**Mithrandir** · 10-23-2003, 20:57

Just had a few 8.5k games. Quite fun.
No less or more fun than 10,12 or 15k though.

I dont seem to notice a huge change, except cav seems quite powerful the lower the fl goes...

**spacecadet** · 10-23-2003, 23:22

I can see 10k games becoming the average. By the way, spears ARE good at 10k.

I been taking 3 spears, 4 swords, 3 missile, 3 heavy cav and 3 cav archers. Average infantry cost at 10k being 700(ish)florins. An army for all occasions.

Space

**Orda Khan** · 10-23-2003, 23:35

I prefer to spend koku these days

.......Orda

**Kongamato** · 10-24-2003, 00:15

I like 10k and in the Early era. I like the missile skirmishing component better in that era than I do in the others. Light cav and archers can help dent the enemy's swords.

I wonder about 15k. What do you get at 15k that you don't get at 20k?

**Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe** · 10-24-2003, 00:30

I'd go further

What do you get at 20k that you don't get at 30k?

Louis,

**Kongamato** · 10-24-2003, 00:42

You're absolutely right Louie. 30-40k is the bright future that has been promised to this troubled community. Nice, strong, all infantry armies that work according to the great tradition of mutually assured destruction, militias of REAL MEN who do not rout even when a lance impales them from behind, and the great teamwork generated by creating huge, unflankable sword walls that collide into one another. My gosh... how can you not say "GG" to that?

Actually, I'd really like to know what is different from 15k at 20k. And then, we can go on and ask what is different from 20k at 25k+.

**TosaInu** · 10-24-2003, 01:19

200-4,000 florins.

**TosaInu** · 10-24-2003, 01:19

And 4,000-80,000

**tootee** · 10-24-2003, 06:23

Yesterday I played one 8k, two 10k and a couples of 15k games.

All armies still the same, but at lower florins the game seems to benefit more those who can hit the keys and move the mouse faster... my mate Justy loves it

At 10k, it does feel a bit like old MTW v1.1.

Can't say much about RPS.. swords is still more cost effective... but with cav and maa generally at morale 8 for 10k games, the cav becomes more useful if one can quickly overwhelm isolated swords with cav.. in 15k the sword tend to stay longer till reinforcement arrived (benefitting the slower ones)

I would say they're all fun in different ways.

**tootee** · 10-24-2003, 06:26

but the most frequently hosted games I saw were still 15k and 20k.. so dont get fooled by the poll Swoosh

**Brutal DLX** · 10-24-2003, 10:28

I don't play anything over 15k. 15 k or lower I don't have a preference, I rather look for who's playing than at which florin level..
By the way, I'd also like to have a game with the famous Swoosh, where do I have to line up?

**Swoosh So** · 10-24-2003, 11:49

Lol ill be on on thursday, im lining up games with tosa and hopefully the deadly shingen feel free to join or we could try some 1v1. I think 12000 florins sounds about right.

**Brutal DLX** · 10-24-2003, 12:10

Thursday. Alright

Team games are much more fun if you ask me, but I'll take whatever I can get

**Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe** · 10-24-2003, 14:00

I take that those living on the wrong side of the pond won't have their chance

I like the poll results; I'd like to know in which timezone ppl who answered are, because there is a clear disconnect between what is said and what is played

I'd like to play in the 5/8 range. But I see a lot of 10/15.

Louis,

**Brutal DLX** · 10-24-2003, 14:20

CET here. I basically see mostly 15k games.

**Znake** · 10-24-2003, 14:51

8k-10k now starting work well for me..had some nice games:)

**Alrowan** · 10-24-2003, 14:53

i try to shift away from 15k as much as i can. ive got a love for about 7-8k now

**AMPage** · 10-25-2003, 02:52

I mostly join any games with any amount of florins from 5k to 20k. It dosn't matter to me really what i play since the balance still isn't all the great, even though it is a bit better with the patch. I just play whatever and not take it nearly as serious as i use to in stw and stw:mi, but hey maybe that's a good thing not to take it serious.

**Dionysus9** · 10-25-2003, 03:01

Amp,

I pretty much do the same-- I like all florin levels and adjust my unit selection accordingly. I tend to play around 10k when I host myself, but if people complain and want 8k or 15k, then I oblige.

I think its good not to take it so seriously. With the +2 morale there is much more luck anyway. You can't take gambling games too seriously and for all its skill there is still a LOT of luck in MTW.

**Swoosh So** · 10-27-2003, 13:48

Amp will you be on on thursday? i enjoyed the games we played in my last visit to mtw

**CBR** · 10-27-2003, 14:43

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Dionysus9 @ Oct. 25 2003,04:01)]With the +2 morale there is much more luck anyway. You can't take gambling games too seriously and for all its skill there is still a LOT of luck in MTW.

What do you mean by luck?

CBR