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Quote[/b] (1dread1lahll @ Oct. 26 2003,03:04)]Ill repeat the post (I begin to become suspicions of the 10k under supporters motives in 5k7k10k, and I get no response).... the fact is the situastional factors will have an EXTREEM impact on games below 10k, the loss of one fatigue bar from marching the length of the map (or up-hill) results in (quite tired) -2 attack to the unit... that ladies and gents is 50% of a v0 CMAA's attack Plus the camping defender who remains quite fresh gets +1 to his attack.... add the combat penality for the attacker attacking up-hill, and the combat bonus to the defender for counter-attacking down hill; and the attackers are totally out classed....., anyone (imho) hosting a map with even moderate hills and defending (and camping) is basicly hosting a sucker game (1v1s) Are the supporters of 10k under going 1v1 attacking hills? When you begain to compile the other situtational factors the advantages enjoyed by hill campers are staggering....(Anyone willing to attack me best of 7 on Acre at say 7k)?
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not sure what this thread is meant to address. but my feeling about terrain is, although LJ had said the bonus associated with them are unchanged since stw/mi.. seriously most games i played in mtw or vi, the feel is that terrain is not as important as in stw/mi.. because i hardly see the manifestation of its bonus in battle outcome.. i.e. in theory one on higher ground should have the advantage in melee due to charging and fighting downhill.. and it also help boost morale fighting downhill. the only advantage i see is that missile shoot longer, thats all. i feel stw/mi give me a more realistic feel of the terrain impact on battle.

i dont understand about the 'sucker game' issue when one host hilly map, and camp uphill. there is no official competitve ladder in mtw like in stw. if one is game for the challenge.. join the game then. if one doesnt like this type of battle.. well.. no one is forcing him to. even if he doesnt know till in the battle, just excuse politely that he doesnt like attacking uphill vs camper and leave the game.