Standards

[Auxilia]

In medieval England, France and Scotland, nobles - seemingly of all ranks - flew flags not only displaying their coats-of-arms but also banners with their livery colours and badges. These, depending on the country bore either the cross of St George, St Denis or St Andrew in the 'fly' (the part nearest the flagpole). These were in use from the 14th to I believe the 16th centuries

Is there a definitive literary source for these?

Thanks in anticipation

[ShadesWolf]

A lot of the Osprey books are a good source for this material.

[Auxilia]

Sorry ShadesWolf, I should have made clear what info I already had with my original query, and several of the Osprey titles I do already have. This in a sense is part of the problem - you have to hunt around for information on these sorts of banner/flag/whatever you call them - it is out there, but it's 'dotted around' somewhat; I'm disappointed that nobody has written a one-stop source - I may even have a crack at it myself

The flags I have managed to identify are for the following, in no particular order -

Henry Bolingbroke (probably carried as Henry IV also)
Henry VII (at least three different)
Edward IV (two different)
John Howard, Duke of Norfolk
Thomas Stanley, Earl of Derby
Lord Ferrers
Henry Stafford, Earl of Wiltshire
Duke of Suffolk (Henry VIII's reign)
Earl of Northumberland (ditto)
Lord Dacre
Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick
Richard III
Marquess Of Dorset
Sir Rhys ap Thomas

[ShadesWolf]

There are a lot of stuff on the 100 years war which include standards etc.

for example I noticed pictured on a shield the standard of the French Crossbow Commander, cant remember what his name was, I will let you know later....

I understand your problem, you are looking for a source where all this info might be kept, and at the moment have not come across one....

good luck my friend....

[Auxilia]

Quote[/b] (ShadesWolf @ Nov. 25 2003,07:20)]I understand your problem, you are looking for a source where all this info might be kept, and at the moment have not come across one....

Spot on

There is apparently a Tudor manuscript in the College of Arms with dozens of these. A facsimile of this was printed in 1904 - and seeing it on a bibliography is as close as I've gotten

Anyways thanks for the good wishes - will keep you posted as to my progress