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Thread: Riverpositions: Where they are in the campaign

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    I´ve made an overview, where to find riverbattles:


    That you get a riverbattle is not random:
    It depends from which province you´re attacking another province.

    As example: If you attack Austria from Hungary you´ll get no river, but you´ll get one if you attack Hungary
    from Austria.
    Often its vice versa: I have signed this with .
    The arrow gives the direction from which province to which province of attacking to get a riverbattle.
    Sorry the map has german names, but I´m sure you can read them.

    You can download the whole campaignmapimage with this link:
    riverpositions image


    Here a part of this image (the whole would be to big to post):


    Flatinlandriver:

    Silesia->Poland
    Austria->Hungary
    Saxony->Brandenburg
    Pomerania->Brandenburg
    Denmark->Saxony
    Flanders->Normandy
    Freisland->Lorraine
    Flanders-> Ile de France
    MerciaWessex
    CrimeaKiev
    BulgariaMoldavia
    PolandSilesia
    BurgundyIle de France


    Plainsinlandriver:
    Lithunia->Kiev
    Chernigov->Kiev
    Black Sea->Kiev
    Volga BulgariaMuscovy
    KhazarRyazan
    KievKhazar


    Hillyinlandriver:
    Lorraine->Franconia
    Serbia->Hungary
    Toulouse->Burgundy
    PolandCarpathia
    BulgariaWallachia
    BavariaBohemia
    BavariaFranconia
    AragonValencia
    ProvenceToulouse




    Hillytoflatinlandriver

    Anjou->Burgundy: hillytoflatinlandriver
    KhazarChernigov: flattohillsinland.r.
    ValenciaCordoba: hillytoflatinland.r.



    Flatcoastalriver:
    Black Sea->Moldavia
    Baltic Sea->Pomerania


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    You do realize this information is directly available to everyone, right? Open up the province summary of the place you're planning on invading from, float your cursor over the target and it tells you the terrain you'll fight in at the bottom of the summary screen, including whether it's a bridge or not.

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    Its an overview: If anyone can need it, its good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Phatose @ Feb. 19 2004,05:43)]You do realize this information is directly available to everyone, right? Open up the province summary of the place you're planning on invading from, float your cursor over the target and it tells you the terrain you'll fight in at the bottom of the summary screen, including whether it's a bridge or not.
    More precisely, it changes when you put your mouse over a border as opposed to the central area. If you mouseover central burgundy, no waterways are mentioned, but if you mousover the border with IdF, a river is listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Antalis:: @ Feb. 19 2004,12:48)]Its an overview: If anyone can need it, its good.
    It is good. Thank you for the research
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    I believe it is a great contribution in a great effort to map down all the valuable info from M:TW. Well done, Lord Antalis::




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    It can be found, but a reference is always handy. Always. Good job.
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    Nicely done Antalis. Its something I can look at when I can't play, to plan my strategy when I'm bored.

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    Yes it's quite interesting to look at it this way as an image. Having a visual such as this helps me memorize the locations better. Curious why they didn't just draw little bridges on the map itself as a visual reference. Likely so that you would get surprised now and then when you forget to check? Well I don't like surprises, so I'm off to study this.

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    It is marked on the map, albeit vaugely. There are rivers on the map and wghere they cross a border you will always get a river battle going one way over that border, but not always both ways.

    The reference is great though, I didn't know there were any river battles in england.
    I was trying to find some help in the ancient military journals of General Tacticus, who's intelligent campaigning had been so successful that he'd lent his very name to the detailed prosecution of martial endeavour, and had actually found a section headed "What To Do If One Army Occupies A Well-Fortified And Superior Ground And The Other Does Not", but since the first sentence read "Endeavour to be the one inside" I'd rather lost heart.

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    I´ve checked Viking Invasion:

    Very interresting:

    Only 3 riverbattles on the whole map:
    Not worthy to make an image for it:


    Sumorsaete->Guent: flattomountaininlandriver
    Cantware->East Seaxe: plainsinlandriver
    Lindissi->Dere: flatinlandriver
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    Thanks for the list. I can play better strategies now
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