LongJohn ---

You said, "This is why each honour upgrade costs 40% more than the previous step, because that is roughly the increase in fighting power."

Is each Honor step really a 40% increase in power MORE THAN THE LAST STEP? If I got you correct about this ... then YIKES!

If combat power builds off the power of the previous step, then this does not simply add 40% more power to each unit for each honor upgrade. It EXPONENTIALLY adds 40%. THIS WILL THROW THINGS WAY OFF:

As I understand it STW does NOT work this way: A simple additive %, but it only builds off the H0 of 100% in even 40% steps:

H0 = 100%

H1 = 140% (40% increase over 100)

H2 = 180% (29% increase over 140)

H3 = 220% (22% increase over 180)

H4 = 260% (18% increase of 220)

.... on up to ...

H8 = 420%

H9 = 460% (10% increase over 420)

H9 is 4.6 times more powerful than H0. That would be a lot. I personally think no single unit's high-end should be more than about 3 x its low-end. Also in this situation, Low Honor units get more help from an Honor increase H0 to H1 gains 40%, H8 to H9 only 10% more power.

But the important thing here is that the top end is only 460% better than the low.

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What I think you were telling me is that STW calculates each step as 40% more than the previous step:

H0 = 100%

H1 = 140% (40% more than 100)

H2 = 196% (40% more than 140)

H3 = 270% (40% more than 196)

H4 = 380% (40% more than 270)

...on up to...

H8 = 1,475%

H9 = 2,066% (40% more than 1,475)

H9 is 20 times more powerful than H0! (not including Weap/Arm upgrades.) The only good thing about this is that Honor increase power evenly for each step. H1 is 40% more than H0, and H9 is 40% more than H8.

Am I correct in thinking this is how it works?

The price structure absolutely works this way. If the power structure reflects the price structure, this should seriously be rethought. In this scenario you've got honor making a unit 20 times better than the low end. Too much.

With an exponential system it seems problematic to have 9 steps at 40% each step.

If the game works this way, the only reason the game isn't totally out of whack is that everyone is able to upgrade units to about the same Honor level. And then some units are inherrently set up to beat other units. But this would explain why upgrading an Ashi to H8/9 is so powerful.

[This message has been edited by shingenmitch2 (edited 03-08-2002).]

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